ENGLISH CREATED AND PRESERVES AMERICA

[Jo Canadian]

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What is rasicst about it? Am I missing something here?

I don't think I'm reading between the lines either.

I can see how certain people raised in extreme climates can handle working outside in hostile temperatures. I'm the opposite, :lol: Being raised in the arctic I can't stand the heat once it goes above 15 degrees, but I can happily work for hours outside when it's -40 with runners and a jean jacket (padded that is).

As far as the division of labor goes, there's always going to be someone willing to do jobs that others would rather not do. Whether it's lazyness or just the social stigma of such an occupation. I would never look down on someone with such a job, but at least admire the fact that they have the balls to do it. 8O Just look at the Untouchables in India!



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[Nascar_James]

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What is rasicst about it? Am I missing something here?

I don't think I'm reading between the lines either.

I can see how certain people raised in extreme climates can handle working outside in hostile temperatures. I'm the opposite, :lol: Being raised in the arctic I can't stand the heat once it goes above 15 degrees, but I can happily work for hours outside when it's -40 with runners and a jean jacket (padded that is).

As far as the division of labor goes, there's always going to be someone willing to do jobs that others would rather not do. Whether it's lazyness or just the social stigma of such an occupation. I would never look down on someone with such a job, but at least admire the fact that they have the balls to do it. 8O Just look at the Untouchables in India!



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I do admire their hard work, that's for sure. Anyone who's willing to work in 115F temperatures to make a better life for themselves, definitely gets my respect.

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[beentheredonethat]

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That is one of the most bigoted racist things I ever read Nascar. I for one am glad you no longer live in Canada. Good thing as I would file report with police and see about getting you charged under "hate crime laws". Man that post is racist, sick and bigoted. man oh man I am speechless. I knew you had some extreme views but, I got to go out after reading that garbage.

What is rasicst about it? Am I missing something here?

Absolutely nothing was racist about what you said. If fact, you attempted to make my picturesque osbservation a little more "delicate" and I appreciate it. Nothing I said was racist either - I see these things, deal with them, etc. - frequently.

James, there is a good reason that we think alike - we see the same things in everyday life. They do not. They just can't understand that this is a fact of everyday life, and it is not a racial slur at all. Also, it has nothing to do with hate. Hello.

Been There

 

[no1important]

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Absolutely nothing was racist about what you said. If fact, you attempted to make my picturesque osbservation a little more "delicate" and I appreciate it. Nothing I said was racist either - I see these things, deal with them, etc. - frequently.

James, there is a good reason that we think alike - we see the same things in everyday life. They do not. They just can't understand that this is a fact of everyday life, and it is not a racial slur at all. Also, it has nothing to do with hate. Hello.

Well Karra all I can say is :roll: I guess America has no real hate laws.

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Être un Acaadien en Louisiane n'est pas facile ! Il nous est rendu plus mauvais encore par le fait que Acadiens ne se mettent pas à genoux à l'anglais, effectuent beaucoup moins leur travail !

La préservation de nos traditions et culture est difficile ! Nous avons parlé français avant que les Américains soient arrivés en Louisiane. L'anglais n'a pas construit l'Amérique, l'Acadiens étaient le premier en Amérique du nord, nous a fait le chemin!

 

[Nascar_James]

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Absolutely nothing was racist about what you said. If fact, you attempted to make my picturesque osbservation a little more "delicate" and I appreciate it. Nothing I said was racist either - I see these things, deal with them, etc. - frequently.

James, there is a good reason that we think alike - we see the same things in everyday life. They do not. They just can't understand that this is a fact of everyday life, and it is not a racial slur at all. Also, it has nothing to do with hate. Hello.

Well Karra all I can say is :roll: I guess America has no real hate laws.

No.1, I would never say anything racist regarding other cultures. Don't think I ever mentioned this, but although my wife is American, she is also a visible minority. She read the post I wrote and saw nothing wrong. Had it been offensive, she surely would have gotten upset.

 

[Shiva]

Nascar James, the post where you quoted a section of one of my posts and discussed Mexican Americans in the U.S. did not at all seem racist in any way to me, either. I'm new to the forum, though I've seen enough of your posts to know I generally do not agree with your political views, and I still had no problem with what you wrote in that post.

Perhaps those responding to it do not know the argument behind describing certain ethnic communities as ghettoes? (this is the only thing I can think of that may have sparked an objection)

It's something that's said because it's a sad situation. The idea is that communities that are all of one ethnicity are essentially segregated from the mainstream, an exclusionary practice indicating a second-class citizenship. This type of argument is used by people of all stripes, and is an argument I've even read about being used in (predominantly leftist) France to describe all ethnic communities which in no way blend with the majority community (this debate I read was via the BBC during the time the Gov't of France was outlawing all religious symbols in public spaces).

I didn't see anything in that post indicating Nascar_James looked down on people who performed labour jobs, or anything that indicated he prefers having ethnic minorities fill those rolls. Rather, he was discussing how hard working they are in such extreme circumstances. I don't see how that's in any way negative or racist.

(this is coming from someone who felt the article that inspired this thread is, indeed, racist, for reasons I already stated)

 

[no1important]

RE: ENGLISH CREATED AND P

:roll:

Look back at some of his posts and you can fill in the blanks and see what a racist bigoted pig he really is.

 

[Shiva]

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:roll:

Look back at some of his posts and you can fill in the blanks and see what a racist bigoted pig he really is.

Considering how easy it is to lose or misconstrue tone over the internet, I wouldn't be interested in reading into his posts particular innuendo that might not be there. It's much better to give the benefit of the doubt.

And if there is a case where he has clearly been racist, rather than raising a stink on the forum and dragging conversations off topic, wouldn't it be better to contact a moderator?

 

[ElPolaco]

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My wife's family have been in this country since the late 16th century. They still speak mainly Spanish and some don't speak any English. They helped build the country.

Well, according to Vanni they should have learned to speak English
in all this time, as he says: "people who wanted to advance learned to adapt to the new landscape of business, and the same will happen with regards to language." That means your Spanish
relatives who live in the US have failed to learn the English language in 400 years? Why not? :idea:

Been There[/quote]


From the time of original settlement to 1821 they were under Spain (talking about Northern New Mexico here) and then under Mexico to 1848 at which time the area was taken be the US. Then (as another poster pointed out) there was no need to learn English because the English language was irrelevent. English speakers in NM for years had to learn Spanish.

 

[Nascar_James]

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:roll:

Look back at some of his posts and you can fill in the blanks and see what a racist bigoted pig he really is.

I see those to the ultra left have no patience...tsk tsk...too bad. It is either their way or the highway.

 

[missile]

If you can work,live in an area, and communicate with others..what difference does your language of choice make? There are Anglos living in Quebec that get by nicely,not speaking any French, and surrounded by the French majority.

 

[Reverend Blair]

I see those to the ultra left have no patience...tsk tsk...too bad. It is either their way or the highway.

Actually, we have a lot of patience. You can tell because we haven't spiked you up yet.

What we lack is tolerance for bigotry, narrow-mindedness, and racism. If you'd quit spewing it, we'd quit calling you on it.

 

[Nascar_James]

I see those to the ultra left have no patience...tsk tsk...too bad. It is either their way or the highway.

Actually, we have a lot of patience. You can tell because we haven't spiked you up yet.

What we lack is tolerance for bigotry, narrow-mindedness, and racism. If you'd quit spewing it, we'd quit calling you on it.

That works both ways, Rev. What appears narrow-mindedness to you is actually a moderate viewpoint down here. What I see from many of the left-left of center posts here is so extreme that it would be considered too far fetched to be taken seriously down here. Many of those views would be laughed right out the window.

Remember, judging someone based on their political viewpoints and mainstream political viewpoints at that, is being hypocritical on your part (and no.1's part as well) since you stated you have no patience for ... B I G O T R Y ...

 

[Cosmo]

That works both ways, Rev. What appears narrow-mindedness to you is actually a moderate viewpoint down here.

"Down here" ? :lol: As in "when down here freezes over"?

What I see from many of the left-left of center posts here is so extreme that it would be considered too far fetched to be taken seriously down here. Many of those views would be laughed right out the window.

Remember, judging someone based on their political viewpoints and mainstream political viewpoints at that, is being hypocritical on your part (and no.1's part as well) since you stated you have no patience for ... B I G O T R Y ...

Bull. Judging people based on the opinions they express is common sense online. It's all we have to go by. As for being far-left ... I find this board just like any other. Pretty well centred with a few extremists. What do you consider mainstream political viewpoints?? You, Nascar_James, are a fringe element ... from the right.

That make me a bigot? So what. Call me what you will. You don't have the ability to hurt my feelings since the only people who can do that are ones I respect, so yammer on dear boy. You're a bit like a poodle yipping at the heels of many folk here. Annoying, but harmless.

 

[Nascar_James]

What do you consider mainstream political viewpoints?? You, Nascar_James, are a fringe element ... from the right.

Most folks here share my viewpoints. Actually, most are further right than myself, so I am moderate. A couple of months ago, the Democtratic party here in Oklahoma (based in Oklahoma City) went bankrupt. Heh heh heh ... I was literally celebrating. Actually, harrruph ... come to think of it, me and my wife did go out to celebrate. Who is going to vote for them??? I mean how in the world are they going to manage billions of tax dollars when they can't even manage their own finances.

Seem to be going off on a tangent here, however the point is the Democrats are not popular here and on the political spectrum they are equivalent to the Conservative Party of Canada. So if folks here laugh off the Democrats, they would surely laugh off the Conservative Party in Canada. What does that say about the Liberals? heh heh heh ... ahemmm ...Ooops, sorry bout' that.

So in saying that I am a fringe element, I could say the same about anyone who supports either party in Canada.

 

[Reverend Blair]

That works both ways, Rev. What appears narrow-mindedness to you is actually a moderate viewpoint down here.

Your racist bullshit isn't a right or left issue, it's just racist bullshit. Same with your homophobia and your religious intolerance. Feck, might as well toss in your political ignorance while we're at it.

 

[Nascar_James]

That works both ways, Rev. What appears narrow-mindedness to you is actually a moderate viewpoint down here.

Your racist bullshit isn't a right or left issue, it's just racist bullshit. Same with your homophobia and your religious intolerance. Feck, might as well toss in your political ignorance while we're at it.

Rev, name a racist comment I've made on this site. You will not be able to, cause I've never said anything of the kind.

 

[Reverend Blair]

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Your general tone is one of racism, bigotry and intolerance, Nascar Nero. The classism you like to exhibit so regularly has racial overtones, as does tendency to berate and denigrate anybody who dares to disagree with your support of the rich old white men who run your country.