ENGLISH CREATED AND PRESERVES AMERICA

[no1important]

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Anyone, to a neocon, who is not a white english speaking christian is an inconvenience to them and a second class citizen.

 

[GL Schmitt]

English, French, Spanish and Russian pioneers originally founded what eventually became the nation of foreigners known as America.

If only the original inhabitants have the right to hear their language taught in public schools, those schools better soon get started teaching full immersion Apache, Souix, Navajo, Blackfoot, et al. :lol:

 

[Steve French]

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Funny how it's always "racist" when evil whitey does it.
Try to pull that victim-identity guilt crap in any other country in the world and see what happens.

It's sort of like emigrating to Japan and complaining that everyone speaks Japanese - or moaning that everyone with good jobs in positions of power is Japanese.

My father's family emigrated to Canada from Germany - there was no such thing as welfare, health care, or a gigantic social service infrastructure and they simply took it for granted to immediately learn English. Nowadays these shiatbags expect and even demand welfare service in their mother tongue...otherwise it's "racism".

Have you noticed that "evil whitey" has created the most tolerant country the world has ever known and that EVERYBODY wants to come here?

 

[Shiva]

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Funny how it's always "racist" when evil whitey does it.
Try to pull that victim-identity guilt crap in any other country in the world and see what happens.

It's sort of like emigrating to Japan and complaining that everyone speaks Japanese - or moaning that everyone with good jobs in positions of power is Japanese.

My father's family emigrated to Canada from Germany - there was no such thing as welfare, health care, or a gigantic social service infrastructure and they simply took it for granted to immediately learn English. Nowadays these shiatbags expect and even demand welfare service in their mother tongue...otherwise it's "racism".

Have you noticed that "evil whitey" has created the most tolerant country the world has ever known and that EVERYBODY wants to come here?

You've confused the issue. Again, as I've already pointed out, there are many people who speak Spanish and French in the U.S. as a mother tongue and have done so since their states became a part of the U.S. Sure, new immigrants should have to learn the language of the area they live in, but this article would take away rights to language and culture of people who are U.S. citizens, born and raised. That's simply not right. To discriminate against these American citizens with an agenda to make the teaching of their language illegal, particularly when it's aimed at the largest non-white language group of the country, is understandably termed racism. If a lot of these illegal Hispanic immigrants don't have to learn English to work in California, Texas, and New Mexico, it's only because Spanish has always been a dominant language in those regions.

 

[no1important]

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Nowadays these shiatbags expect and even demand welfare service in their mother tongue...otherwise it's "racism"

Whats wrong with that. We live in a very multicultural society and so many diferent languages (here in Vancouver anyways), I would be more surprised if immigrants could not find someone that spoke their language.

I really wish I knew 4 or 5 languages. It would be great. It is just some people are afraid of change and diferent things, I guess. Really, who cares, whats the big deal with what language they speak? You or I can always get service in our mother tongue, so why can't they?

 

[peapod]

Blah! Go back to school and learn whitey's history on this planet frenchie, not only with other human beings, but with the other inhabitants of the planets.
Typical neocons, unable to see anything except a greenback and the book of myths. :roll: :roll: What do you think you have that meat between your ears eh??? its to think with, ya, thinking meat, go figure! although some have low grade ground beef there, marbled with to much fat! ha! not good stuff, full of pathageons, ripe with toxins! uck! ouch!

Its a privilage to learn a second language, it makes your brain grow, just like knowing and interacting with people of other cultures, not the narrow limited view you would hold people to. Ya, right keep everyone ignorant and closed minded, that way you can control them, stiffle them. nah, keep your own quiet desperate life. Blah!

 

[jjw1965]

ENGLISH CREATED AND PRESERVES AMERICA

One main reason I posted this article was to delve a little deeper into the pesonalities that I see on this forum.

If only the original inhabitants have the right to hear their language taught in public schools, those schools better soon get started teaching full immersion Apache, Souix, Navajo, Blackfoot, et al.

My family on my mothers side were made to cut their hair and learn the language and the ways of the white man but I have no problem with the spoken languages in America.

But with the agenda pushing C.F.R. and certain elements in the US government it might be a good ideal to learn more about my neighboring countries since they wish to have an American Union in place with Canada and Mexico.

 

[manda]

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Le Français est une langue légale en Louisiane, les professeurs à l'école il y a cinquante ans a essayé de nous forcer à apprendre l'anglais par l'agenouillement vers le bas en riz. Ceci a augmenté notre amour pour l'anglais.


French is a legal language in Louisiana, the teachers in school fifty years ago did try to force us to learn English by kneeling down in rice. This increased our love for English.

If caught speaking French, you kneel in rice, Thank God for CIVIL RIGHTS, the barbarism stopped COLD!

Nous fierons a parler Français!

Je suis une habitante de l'ile du Prince Edouard, ou il n'est pas neccessaire d'appredre des autres langues que anglais. Je suis une anglephone, et mon pere vient de l'angleterre, mais j'ai etudie les autre langues parce que j'avais le droit. C'est contre nos droits humains de nous arrettons de parler nos langues maternelles.

Es una trabaja por todo el mundo de usamos nuestros derechos de no solamente hablamos nuestros linguages primarias, pero apprendan otros culturas y idiomas tambien.

to persecute and force others into any one language is foolish. The English language has been enormously enriched by influences of other languages, and not to embrace them is wrong.

Because I have the right, I went to University, and not only studied literature and development of my maternal language, but 3 others. Because of this I have opened international doors for myself, and did not have to be a playground bully in the process. I also learned countless things about the cultures that evade translation. Without it's language, a culture can be lost


-desole, je ne peux pas ajouter les accents a mon ordinateur de travail

-lo siento, no tengo la capabilidad de usar los accentos a mi ordinadora de trabaja

 

[annabattler]

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And to add a little levity to the discussion.....
When the Texas State legislature was debating the addition of Spanish to the Texas curriculum,one "learned(?)" legislator rose to his feet and said..." If English was good enough for Jesus to write the Bible in,then it's good enough for me !!"...true story,lol!!

 

[peapod]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Twila]

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There is no better way to better your listening skills then to talk to somebody who's still learning english.

You might also learn a few choice phrases in their tongue....and in turn, you can teach them a few choice languages in your tongue

My grandparents both spoke english as a second language. As they got older they'd forget the english they'd learned. It was sad to see my grandmother be bullied by english speakers because of her "poor english" when in fact her english had been excellent all her life.

 

[jjw1965]

Je suis une habitante de l'ile du Prince Edouard, ou il n'est pas neccessaire d'appredre des autres langues que anglais. Je suis une anglephone, et mon pere vient de l'angleterre, mais j'ai etudie les autre langues parce que j'avais le droit. C'est contre nos droits humains de nous arrettons de parler nos langues maternelles.

I am one living of the island of Prince Edouard, or it is not neccessary to understand other languages only English. I am a ++++, and my father comes from England, but I have ++++ the other languages because I had the right. It is against our human rights of we +++++ to speak our mother tongues.

I had trouble with some of the words but am I close?

 

[jjw1965]

Je suis une habitante de l'ile du Prince Edouard, ou il n'est pas neccessaire d'appredre des autres langues que anglais. Je suis une anglephone, et mon pere vient de l'angleterre, mais j'ai etudie les autre langues parce que j'avais le droit. C'est contre nos droits humains de nous arrettons de parler nos langues maternelles.

I am one living of the island of Prince Edouard, or it is not neccessary to understand other languages only English. I am a ++++, and my father comes from England, but I have ++++ the other languages because I had the right. It is against our human rights of we +++++ to speak our mother tongues.

I had trouble with some of the words but am I close?

 

[Shiva]

Je suis une habitante de l'ile du Prince Edouard, ou il n'est pas neccessaire d'appredre des autres langues que anglais. Je suis une anglephone, et mon pere vient de l'angleterre, mais j'ai etudie les autre langues parce que j'avais le droit. C'est contre nos droits humains de nous arrettons de parler nos langues maternelles.

I am one living of the island of Prince Edouard, or it is not neccessary to understand other languages only English. I am a ++++, and my father comes from England, but I have ++++ the other languages because I had the right. It is against our human rights of we +++++ to speak our mother tongues.

I had trouble with some of the words but am I close?

May I also venture a guess? It's been a while since I studied French, but this is what I got:

I'm an inhabitant of Prince Edward Island, where it is not necessary to learn languages other than English. I am an anglophone, & my father comes from England, but I studied languages other than English because I have the right. It's against our human rights to stop us from speaking our mother tongue.

 

[manda]

you guys did really well, but what about the next paragraph down?

 

[Shiva]

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you guys did really well, but what about the next paragraph down?

Unfortunately, no hablo espanol!

But I did get this part:


-desole, je ne peux pas ajouter les accents a mon ordinateur de travail

Sorry, I couldn't add accents on my work computer.

Maybe I'll get brownie points for speaking an Indian (think South Asia, not native Indian) language? (Hindi) :wink: :lol:

 

[manda]

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[manda]

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you guys did really well, but what about the next paragraph down?

Unfortunately, no hablo espanol!

But I did get this part:


-desole, je ne peux pas ajouter les accents a mon ordinateur de travail

Sorry, I couldn't add accents on my work computer.

Maybe I'll get brownie points for speaking an Indian (think South Asia, not native Indian) language? (Hindi) :wink: :lol:

Hindi is WAAAAAAYYYY out of my league. I took minors in University of french and Spanish, and I also studied Japanese for a year..I didn't have time for german though I have learned a bunch of Inuit words too!

 

[Shiva]

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Hindi is WAAAAAAYYYY out of my league. I took minors in University of french and Spanish, and I also studied Japanese for a year..I didn't have time for german though I have learned a bunch of Inuit words too!

It's very cool that you're trilingual. I'm sure you really know what I mean when I say it opens up your eyes to the world, and really helps you understand your own culture as well as that of others.

When it comes to Hindi, though, I'm sure if you learned French and Spanish you could pull this one off, too (if you had the time/interest). The main difficulty with this language (from the perspective of a student, whose mother tongue is a European language) is that the word order is different. In English, we have subject+verb+object word order, eg., I (subject) spit (verb) on the judge (object) (who gave this ruling).

In Hindi, however, you would have subject+object+verb word order. So you'd get: I judge spit.

Once you get over that it's actually much easier because the number of irregularities in the verbs and overall grammar are next to nothing. So, whereas in French, the largest verb grouping (like 80%?) is irregular, in Hindi, there are only five verbs (that I can think of) that are irregular. Seriously straining myself, I can't think of other irregular verbs. This language was the lingua franca of north India, which is why it is deliberately an easy language to learn, and the hardest part would probably be getting the accent right!

 

[manda]

I'll have to get into it if I ever get a chance away from the kids...school was my break, but I had to graduate.