Election officially called

[Praxius]

I hope the Conservatives win; in fact, I hope they get a majority.

This is not because I have any special love for Stephen Harper (although I don't think he is channeling Lucifer, like some believe); nor am I exceptionally impressed with their performance over the last three years.

The reasons why I would vote Conservative?

1. The NDP and the Liberals would both immediately proceed to steal my handguns upon being elected. I have had WAY too much of that crap.

Welcome to Canada eh.

2. Foreign Affairs.....the Conservatives are the only party that will keep us in Afghanistan,

No party can pull us out of Afghanistan until 2011, including the NDP who have constantly opposed the war..... they all voted and agreed to stick to it until 2011, so that argument is irrelevant.

And I personally don't want to see us there beyond 2011 anyways.

the only party that strongly supports Israel,

Who gives a rats ass about Israel? What have they done for us lately, beside mooch and complain we're not supporting them enough?

the only party that maintains good relations with the USA,

Now there's a big reason why to vote for them :roll: The only good relations we have with the US is when we bend over and take it up the ass, like the bitches we seem to be.

the only party that doesn't spend half its energy kissing Chinese arse,

I've hardly heard any party kissing their ass lately. And even if they were, I'd rather be kissing their ass then the US's ass. Funny how you pick and choose who's ass you want to kiss.... and it'd be the one's with all the guns.... go figure.

the only party that ignores some of the idiocy coming out of the UN.

Ignore the idiocy like how the US ignored them? Yeah, that worked out so well for them now didn't it?

3. The Conservatives, with a majority, will dump the gun registry.

Well there's one good thing so far.

4. The Liberals will bring in a carbon tax, driving the economy into the ground......God knows what the NDP would do!!!!

So since you don't know what the NDP would do, you're simply going to place them in the same category as the Liberals without even doing a little looking into what they actually propose? Brilliant.

5. The Greens are a fringe......

They said that about the NDP too. And the Green will remain in the fringe so long as they are unfairly left out of the debates, not allowed to publically speak their plans like the other goons who've held office back and forth for so long...... who've also done nothing to better this country. Anything's better then the status quo.

6. The Conservatives will continue to support the military, relative to the policies of the Liberals and NDP at least....

That's a kinda dumb statement..... first off, yes, the Conservatives put more money into the Military, that I'm glad with, yet it was the Liberals who tossed our troops into Afghanistan in the first place and kept them there.... if you feel tossing our troops into a US-led invasion and ocupation as supporting our troops, then the Liberals are no different then the Conservatives.

As it goes for the NDP, they too support the military, just not in the blood thirsty way you, the Liberals or Conservatives do. I support the military as well..... but that doesn't mean I have to agree with us being in Afghanistan to do so.

As a citizen, I see supporting our troops as supporting what they do and the sacrafices they make...... I also see support as a citizen as pressuring our government to make sure they don't send our troops into wars that neither concern us, nor suited for our role in the world. I support our troops by trying to make sure they don't get sent into the wrong missions by our government. I can support our troops, but not support the war in Afghanistan. I did have support in the begining, but so long as the US keeps using civilians as target practice, rounding up civilians, destroying their homes, disregarding their safety and security within their own nation, then it's a lost cause, and the longer we stay, the worse it's going to get.

Canada has done some great work over there, but the US ruins it for not just us, but every other ally fighting over there. If they want to do things their way, then they can damn well do them on their own.

And the NDP didn't want us there in the first place, they still don't, but they now have no choice but to keep us there until 2011...... and if you simply think they're going to revert our military back into the Joke the Liberals left them in, that concept is pretty unfounded.

7. I can't stand Paul Zed, the Liberal MP in my riding......what a piece of human garbage!

Well I can't stand many of the Liberals here either, so I can agree with you on that.

8. The Conservatives are the party of national unity now that the Libs have so deservedly bit the dust in Quebec.

National Unity isn't even an issue today, even with the majority of people living in Quebec.... which is why the bloc are going all out to revive their seperationist mentality in the province.

Tell you what... I hope the NDP make a suprise takeover and win at least the next minority.... just to see exactly how much worse they are compared to the same crap Libs and Cons we've been dealing with for the last god knows how long........

..... if they screw the country up more then it currently is, I'll owe you a coke.

 

[Praxius]

That's what Harper hopes for. That's why he broke his own law so he could manipulate the election for more favourable odds. It's gonna backfire. He doesn't play well with other kids. He'll really be pi**ed if he ends up with a softer minority ... or the swing in an NDP government.

In the Conservatives' defense, I feel Harper did the right thing, regardless of what laws he put in place.

As I understood it, The law means not to call an election for political purposes and gain seats. Harper's official stance was that the government was not working at all........

I agree there might be political reasons behind this move, but I also agree that the government has been useless for at least the past year.

Why?

Well I blame the Liberals and Dion directly for that. They were voted in as the opposition party, they were elected to represent the people who voted them in, correct?

Then why the hell did Dion walk his party out on at least three different times during votes they opposed? If they opposed the plans being presented to them, then they should have stood their ground and voted No.

But they didn't.... why? Because Dion and the Liberals were not ready for an election, which would have occured if they did. So instead of doing their god damn jobs and represent those who elected them, they walked out for a smoke break, and pranced around saying they're not voting out of protest........

that doesn't do anybody any good does it? They walked out, those bills passed, their protest did nothing but waste tax payer's dollars and make them look like fools not doing their damn jobs.

And when they're not doing their jobs, then the government isn't working for Canada is it?

Therefore I'm glad the election was called..... make the Liberals lose even more seats, shuffle up things and give them a damn reality check that they need.

Seriously.... if the Liberals win or even get a majority, are they gonna pull this same stunt again?

Besides the Carbon tax garbage the Liberals plan to pawn off to us, these direct actions of them not voting, walking out and not doing their job, because they simply wern't ready for an election, is political BS at the hands of Canadian Citizens to suit their own agenda..... for that, I'd like to see their party disbanded..... but them being thrown to 3rd place will do for me.

 

[Walter]

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[lone wolf]

In the Conservatives' defense, I feel Harper did the right thing, regardless of what laws he put in place.

Harper doesn't want an election in a recession. He'll collect full blame and be out on his arse.

As I understood it, The law means not to call an election for political purposes and gain seats. Harper's official stance was that the government was not working at all........

As I understand it ... it meant the government serves its full term - good or bad - unless opposition votes no confidence and brings the government down.

I agree there might be political reasons behind this move, but I also agree that the government has been useless for at least the past year.

It has been useless ever since that control freak got in. He is not a negotiator. He is a manipulative spoiled brat.

Why?

Well I blame the Liberals and Dion directly for that. They were voted in as the opposition party, they were elected to represent the people who voted them in, correct?

Then why the hell did Dion walk his party out on at least three different times during votes they opposed? If they opposed the plans being presented to them, then they should have stood their ground and voted No.

But they didn't.... why? Because Dion and the Liberals were not ready for an election, which would have occured if they did. So instead of doing their god damn jobs and represent those who elected them, they walked out for a smoke break, and pranced around saying they're not voting out of protest........

that doesn't do anybody any good does it? They walked out, those bills passed, their protest did nothing but waste tax payer's dollars and make them look like fools not doing their damn jobs.

And when they're not doing their jobs, then the government isn't working for Canada is it?

The government has been putting in time and avoiding controversay because Harper isn't prime minister to govern. He is there to rule. Harper is a dangerous person because he is a con artist. Colpy's analogy of Bruce the Shark fits well.

Dion isn't a good leader. Rae would have been a much better choice. I have no idea how he even got in but it shows if brains were dynamite the Liberal party of Canada couldn't blow their own noses.

Therefore I'm glad the election was called..... make the Liberals lose even more seats, shuffle up things and give them a damn reality check that they need.

Seriously.... if the Liberals win or even get a majority, are they gonna pull this same stunt again?

Liberals haven't a snowball's chance in Hell. Dion can't learn English fast enough to go head-to-head in a televised debate with Mister Tefflon. This is how Mulroney won his Free Trade and GST votes - by splitting the vote. I hope it all backfires and Bloc take CRAP in Quebec and NDP clean up the rest. Spank the old guard hard enough they actually learn the lesson.

Besides the Carbon tax garbage the Liberals plan to pawn off to us, these direct actions of them not voting, walking out and not doing their job, because they simply wern't ready for an election, is political BS at the hands of Canadian Citizens to suit their own agenda..... for that, I'd like to see their party disbanded..... but them being thrown to 3rd place will do for me.

The Carbon tax is the loser. People will be voting against that. Dion screwed up. For an unpopular agenda to get elected ... it has to be the platform of the party in power. Mulroney and Harris both proved that. A vote against is a split vote.

This election, more than any other, we need a good voter turn out. That manipulative SOB will have his desciples at the polls....

 

[Socrates the Greek]

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Harper is asking for permition to go take a sh!t..................nice phony smile.............the real weasal at work.......................................

 

[Socrates the Greek]

One of the problems with the Conservatives right now is that their version of Canada doesn't include me or a large number of people like me. Canada isn't just for white right wing Christians and those others who know to get down on both knees and worship them.

I stand for a more liberal country where smoking pot is a low priority and busting gang bangers that shoot into crowds of people with semi-automatic hand guns is a major one.

So far the Conservatives have managed to turn the economy around from the robust and recession proof model Martin built under Chretien to the slowly sinking boat we're in now.
Sure it's nice to have 2 cents off the GST but it doesn't do much for you if you haven't any money to spend in the first place.

Our generation has begun something as great as any other generation before us. Yet it's gone on under the radar for years now. We are the generation that has defined the Canadian identity more than any other. A liberal society that feels that if you aren't bothering anyone, then let your freak flag fly. Marry a person of the same sex if you love them. Don't call it something that it's not, call it what it is marriage. The results are in and no one married their dog, children are still safe and by gum the sky didn't fall.

Take the war to the terrorists not some manufactured play to control the flow of oil.
Stand between two warring groups and bring them to peaceful dialog, not help one to annihilate the other. Take care of the beautiful country we are lucky enough to live in and develop the resources so that we all benefit from their development without making a mess of the landscape.

We are the same people as Americans. But of the two, we are the reasonable culture that considers the best outcome for everyone, not just Americans. The majority of Canadian don't much care what you do to yourself as long as you don't cause a problem for someone else. This neocon party of Harper's is built on the same foundation as the Bushco republican base. Those who want not just America but all of North America for themselves. Bigotry to replace multiculturalism, winning to replace fair play and a return to Christian Puritanism rule based on fear and prejudice.

Harper runs the neocons and the republicans run Harper. With the amount of money they dump into Canada to sway our political landscape and the influence they exert on the Canadian mindset through media is staggering. Though not without purpose.

While it's always been the Canadian way to listen to people, it's our own course to plot.

Unforgiven..............good post..........

 

[Praxius]

Harper doesn't want an election in a recession. He'll collect full blame and be out on his arse.

I'm not going to be voting Conservative nor do I really care much about Harper, but once again, in his unbiased defense, This can not be directly blamed on him alone.... the economy has been the craps all over the world, the US esspecially, and since we suck hard on the US's teet, whatever sours them, sours us. Maybe Harper's continuing support for the US might have made things worse, but our sucking up to the US has been happening long before he got to power, therefore I can not blame him directly for the economy.

That and it was a minority government, therefore all parties are to blame, not just the Conservatives.... they just get slightly more of the blame.

As I understand it ... it meant the government serves its full term - good or bad - unless opposition votes no confidence and brings the government down.

And what happens when you have no confidence in your opposition's ability to do anything and stall the government to the point where more tax payer's dollars are burned then it's worth it?

I'm personally glad an election is called now, because I've been fed up with this government, and the last one, and the one before that, and the one before that for way too long.

It has been useless ever since that control freak got in. He is not a negotiator. He is a manipulative spoiled brat.

Very well could be, and I do see those traits, which is why I'm not voting for him..... but Dion is far worse, as he has no position, no ability to lead, has no backbone, and Dion has been equally manipulative by walking out on votes because his party wasn't ready for an election..... a selfish reason if you ask me.

And all the while Dion bitches and moans about Harper and what he has or hasn't done, what does he propose as an alternative? Nothing..... besides a Carbon Tax...... he just bitches about everybody else and doesn't bother to look at what he's done so far.... which is squat.

The government has been putting in time and avoiding controversay because Harper isn't prime minister to govern. He is there to rule. Harper is a dangerous person because he is a con artist. Colpy's analogy of Bruce the Shark fits well.

I personally don't care about controversay, I care about them doing their jobs and doing them right. If it resulted in another election, then so be it, but vote and make the decisions the people elected you into office to do.

Dion isn't a good leader. Rae would have been a much better choice. I have no idea how he even got in but it shows if brains were dynamite the Liberal party of Canada couldn't blow their own noses.

He got in, because all the other candidates dropped out and gave their support to Dion.... a guy who was in last place pick until there were no other options left besides Dion and Ignatieff.... and Ignatieff would have won, if he didn't finally drop out too to support Dion (As some kind of a joke of solid support within the party.... didn't work)

In all honesty, if Ignatieff was leader of the Liberals, there would have been a chance I would have voted for them this time around.

Liberals haven't a snowball's chance in Hell. Dion can't learn English fast enough to go head-to-head in a televised debate with Mister Tefflon. This is how Mulroney won his Free Trade and GST votes - by splitting the vote. I hope it all backfires and Bloc take CRAP in Quebec and NDP clean up the rest. Spank the old guard hard enough they actually learn the lesson.

I unfortunatly believe it'll take a good 10-20 years for the Liberals and Conservatives being out of power to learn their lessons. Right now, they've been switching it back and forth like the Democrats and Republicans in the US, and playing off of the public's fears of a different party, that even 1-2 years out of power isn't enough to clear the corruption in those parties.

The Carbon tax is the loser. People will be voting against that. Dion screwed up. For an unpopular agenda to get elected ... it has to be the platform of the party in power. Mulroney and Harris both proved that. A vote against is a split vote.

And see if the Liberals get into power, (the party in power) they could make it happen, which is what bothers me..... so hopfully you are right that most will vote against it..... I know I am.

This election, more than any other, we need a good voter turn out. That manipulative SOB will have his desciples at the polls....

Oh, I'll be there.... I never voted much in the past, because I was fully aware of the Babyboomer's out numbering me and people like me, that they were so stuck in their Liberal or Conservative parties, that it made little difference for the younger generations in what they voted for...... now more and more people of this generation are not only getting completely fed up, but they're starting to see change occuring due to those who have decided to vote.

If more do, then some drastic changes could be on the way.