Eight teenage girls charged with murder in stabbing death of 59-year-old Toronto man: police

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“They are human beings. They deserve to live in the city like everyone else,” she said.
But they don't live in the city like everyone else. Everyone else doesn't sleep in front of people's businesses, forcing customers to step over them. Everyone else doesn't leave needles everywhere. Everyone else doesn't take a dump in the middle of a public area. Everyone else respects other people's use of public property. Everyone else doesn't ask passerby's for money or try to sell them drugs. Everybody else doesn't build tent cities that take over public areas that are supposed to be for everyone and then turn them into fire traps and sewage farms. Everyone else doesn't commit property crimes to fuel their habits.

I don't think there'd be any problem if they actually lived in the city like everyone else.

And say what you like, that is GOING to piss many people off, and when all they hear about is how the homeless people have rights but they, who pay their way and earn what they have, don't have any rights then there's going to be some serious resentment.

Look at what's happening in san francisco right now. Nobody wants that in their city. So as the homeless population grows so will resentment and violence and hatred will grow right along with that.

Simply telling people they're bad people for their resentment is just going to make it worse. It won't do a damn thing to make it better. And ignoring other people's right to free use and enjoyment of the public and private spaces THEY PAID FOR while claiming the rights of the homeless isn't going to win any friends for the homeless either.
 

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Teen seeks reduced sentence in Kenneth Lee case over strip searches
Author of the article:Canadian Press
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Paola Loriggio
Published Aug 28, 2024 • 2 minute read

A teen girl who pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the alleged swarming of a homeless Toronto man is seeking to have her sentence reduced after she was repeatedly made to strip naked during searches while in custody.


The teen was one of eight girls — all between the ages of 13 and 16 — arrested in the death of Kenneth Lee, who police alleged was attacked by a group of girls in December 2022.

An agreed statement of facts related to the strip searches was read in court Wednesday as part of the teen’s sentencing hearing, which is scheduled to continue next month.

It said the girl, who was 13 at the time, was forced to strip naked on four occasions while in custody at a Kingston facility in the weeks following her arrest.

The document said she was also made to strip naked twice at a facility in London, Ont., earlier this year while in custody on an unrelated assault charge. She has since pleaded guilty to that charge, court heard.


The statement of facts said the searches were routine procedures after the girl arrived at a facility or returned from a family visit or court appearance.

A written policy that was in place at the Kingston facility from 2006 until January required youth to strip naked for searches, according to the agreed statement of facts. The London facility’s written policy had no such requirement, but two staff members “misunderstood,” the document said.

A Ministry of Children and Youth Services policy on in-custody searches states that while routine strip searches are permitted, “the young person must not be completely undressed for any period of time.”

Testifying on Wednesday, the girl said she didn’t realize for a long time that what happened to her was wrong.


The teen said she still feels shame surrounding the searches.

“I still get that feeling” of feeling dirty, she said, adding she is speaking to a counsellor about it.

“It was humiliating, to be honest … It made me feel really bad about myself,” she told the court.

The girl teared up as she told the court she has struggled with body image issues since she was a child and feels uncomfortable when people look at her.

At least two other girls who have pleaded guilty in the case are expected to make submissions related to strip searches.

In total, four girls have pleaded guilty in the case — three to manslaughter and one to assault causing bodily harm and assault with a weapon.

The remaining four girls are set to be tried in Superior Court next year, three of them on a charge of second-degree murder and one on a charge of manslaughter.

None of the girls can be identified under the Youth Criminal Justice Act.
 

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First teen sentenced in Kenneth Lee case gets 15 months probation
Author of the article:Canadian Press
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Marie-Danielle Smith
Published Sep 16, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Kenneth Lee was fatally swarmed in downtown Toronto in December 2022.
Kenneth Lee was fatally swarmed in downtown Toronto in December 2022.
The first teenager to be sentenced in the death of a Toronto homeless man will not face further time in custody, and instead participate in a community-based program.


The girl — who pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was 13 at the time of the alleged December 2022 attack on Kenneth Lee — was credited for 15 months of pre-trial custody and will serve another 15 months of probation under an Intensive Support and Supervision Program.

Justice David Stewart Rose said Monday the sentence reflects that the teen has taken accountability for her actions, that community interventions appear to be working and that she experienced institutional malfeasance while in custody.

He said the teen was forced to strip naked during searches a total of seven times. She was also taken to a remote detention facility far from family, and institutional staff didn’t always take her to court when necessary, he said.


“Further custodial sentence is not necessary to meet the need of accountability,” Rose said, adding that the teen is at the lower end of the range when it comes to the likelihood to reoffend violently.

Police have alleged that Lee, who was 59 and living in the city’s shelter system, died after he was swarmed and stabbed by a group of girls. In his sentencing decision, Rose described what happened as “vicious and cowardly.”

Seven other teens, who were between the ages of 13 and 16 at the time, were arrested and charged in the case.

Three others have pleaded guilty in the case — two to manslaughter and one to assault causing bodily harm. Another four are set to stand trial next year — three for second-degree murder and one for manslaughter.


The girl who was sentenced on Monday had no previous criminal record, court heard.

She faces a 10-year weapons prohibition, must follow mental-health treatment as determined by the supervision program and is not to communicate with her co-accused for the duration of the probation order.

Her lawyer, Leo Adler, said the teen regrets what happened and noted that she was “treated in ways that were contrary to the guidelines” while in custody.

“She has gone through quite a bit,” he said outside court after the sentencing decision.

Court had heard earlier from Lee’s brother-in-law, Eric Shum, who had read a victim impact statement at a sentencing hearing for the teenager. Shum had described his family as “distraught” after Lee’s death and said he felt “helpless” in trying to keep his family together in the wake of the loss.


In his sentencing decision on Monday, Rose listed off details about Lee that he had learned: the 59-year-old was known to tell corny jokes; he bonded with younger family members over pizza, chocolate milk and a good game of Monopoly; he told family that his goal in life was to “help people.”

Rose said the teenager had written a letter of apology to the family and shown “genuine insight,” as well as a commitment to “improving herself.”

The judge also raised research around the development of the brain in adolescence as well as teens’ susceptibility to peer pressure in the reasons for his decision.

Later Monday, Rose heard arguments in the sentencing hearing of a second teen who pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the case.


The teen, who was also 13 at the time of the incident, is seeking a reduced sentence in light of conditions she experienced while in custody at two institutions.

Court heard that she was made to strip naked for searches four times in the weeks following her arrest in the Lee case, and another two times while in custody on an unrelated assault charge, for which she has also pleaded guilty.

As part of the sentencing hearing, the teen opted to make a statement in front of the judge. She offered her condolences to Lee’s family, saying she understands “the situation has caused them great pain.”

“I was young, naive and intoxicated,” she said of her involvement, adding that “does not excuse my actions” but it played a role.

“Looking back, I wish I had done some things to prevent the situation from escalating,” she said.

The now-15-year-old said the aftermath continues to affect her mental health but it is “nothing compared to the pain that has been caused, and for that I am truly and deeply sorry.”

A decision on her sentence is expected at the beginning of October.
 
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2nd teen sentenced in death of Kenneth Lee gets 21 months probation
Author of the article:Canadian Press
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Paola Loriggio
Published Oct 01, 2024 • 2 minute read
The second teen to be sentenced in the death of a Toronto homeless man will not serve any more time in custody but will spend close to two years under probation.
The second teen to be sentenced in the death of a Toronto homeless man will not serve any more time in custody, but will spend close to two years under probation.


The girl pleaded guilty to manslaughter earlier this year in the 2022 death of Kenneth Lee, a 59-year-old man who was living in the city’s shelter system.

In a hearing Tuesday, the girl — who was 13 at the time of the incident — was given credit for 15 months of pre-sentence custody and ordered to serve 21 months of probation under an intensive support and supervision program.

Justice David Stewart Rose noted the girl apologized in court for the pain she has caused and has insights into her conduct, which he said is important in meeting the sentencing goal of accountability.

Rose pointed to the fact the girl was forced to strip naked during six searches at two facilities where she was held and was placed in isolation for 24 hours after a judicial order prohibited strip searches as a “significant mitigating factor.”



“There is nothing to be gained by further custody,” Rose said.

The judge said no risk assessment was included in the girl’s pre-sentencing reports, but that he deemed her to be a real risk to reoffend violently if she doesn’t undergo extensive treatment and counselling over the next few years.

“Her rehabilitation and reintegration require significant therapeutic intervention,” he said. “(The girl) is at a delicate stage in her life. With effective help, there is reason to be optimistic that she will move into a pro-social adult life.”

The girl also faces a 10-year weapons ban as part of her sentence and must maintain mental-health treatment or counselling as set out by the supervision program. As well, she cannot have any contact with her co-accused for the duration of the probation order.


Another girl who also pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the case was sentenced last month to 15 months of probation under an intensive support and supervision program after she was credited for 15 months of pre-sentence custody.


Police have alleged that Lee died after he was swarmed and stabbed by a group of girls.

Eight teens, all between the ages of 13 and 16 at the time, were arrested and charged in the case.

Four have pleaded guilty in the case — three to manslaughter and one to assault causing bodily harm.

The two who have not yet been sentenced were also in court Tuesday to challenge the strip searches they underwent in custody on grounds that their charter rights were violated.

Staff who worked at the institutions where the girls were held have been called to testify.

Another four teens are set to stand trial next year — three for second-degree murder and one for manslaughter.
 

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Teen seeks reduced sentence in Kenneth Lee case over strip searches
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Paola Loriggio
Published Aug 28, 2024 • 2 minute read

A teen girl who pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the alleged swarming of a homeless Toronto man is seeking to have her sentence reduced after she was repeatedly made to strip naked during searches while in custody.


The teen was one of eight girls — all between the ages of 13 and 16 — arrested in the death of Kenneth Lee, who police alleged was attacked by a group of girls in December 2022.

An agreed statement of facts related to the strip searches was read in court Wednesday as part of the teen’s sentencing hearing, which is scheduled to continue next month.

It said the girl, who was 13 at the time, was forced to strip naked on four occasions while in custody at a Kingston facility in the weeks following her arrest.

The document said she was also made to strip naked twice at a facility in London, Ont., earlier this year while in custody on an unrelated assault charge. She has since pleaded guilty to that charge, court heard.


The statement of facts said the searches were routine procedures after the girl arrived at a facility or returned from a family visit or court appearance.

A written policy that was in place at the Kingston facility from 2006 until January required youth to strip naked for searches, according to the agreed statement of facts. The London facility’s written policy had no such requirement, but two staff members “misunderstood,” the document said.

A Ministry of Children and Youth Services policy on in-custody searches states that while routine strip searches are permitted, “the young person must not be completely undressed for any period of time.”

Testifying on Wednesday, the girl said she didn’t realize for a long time that what happened to her was wrong.


The teen said she still feels shame surrounding the searches.

“I still get that feeling” of feeling dirty, she said, adding she is speaking to a counsellor about it.

“It was humiliating, to be honest … It made me feel really bad about myself,” she told the court.

The girl teared up as she told the court she has struggled with body image issues since she was a child and feels uncomfortable when people look at her.

At least two other girls who have pleaded guilty in the case are expected to make submissions related to strip searches.

In total, four girls have pleaded guilty in the case — three to manslaughter and one to assault causing bodily harm and assault with a weapon.

The remaining four girls are set to be tried in Superior Court next year, three of them on a charge of second-degree murder and one on a charge of manslaughter.

None of the girls can be identified under the Youth Criminal Justice Act.
Awwww the poor murderous animal wants sympathy. Tell her to look between shit and syphilis in the dictionary.

“It was humiliating, to be honest … It made me feel really bad about myself,” she told the court."
And gang-murdering an innocent man didn't? Fuck off ya little cunt.