Eight teenage girls charged with murder in stabbing death of 59-year-old Toronto man: police

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“They are human beings. They deserve to live in the city like everyone else,” she said.

But they don't live in the city like everyone else. Everyone else doesn't sleep in front of people's businesses, forcing customers to step over them. Everyone else doesn't leave needles everywhere. Everyone else doesn't take a dump in the middle of a public area. Everyone else respects other people's use of public property. Everyone else doesn't ask passerby's for money or try to sell them drugs. Everybody else doesn't build tent cities that take over public areas that are supposed to be for everyone and then turn them into fire traps and sewage farms. Everyone else doesn't commit property crimes to fuel their habits.

I don't think there'd be any problem if they actually lived in the city like everyone else.

And say what you like, that is GOING to piss many people off, and when all they hear about is how the homeless people have rights but they, who pay their way and earn what they have, don't have any rights then there's going to be some serious resentment.

Look at what's happening in san francisco right now. Nobody wants that in their city. So as the homeless population grows so will resentment and violence and hatred will grow right along with that.

Simply telling people they're bad people for their resentment is just going to make it worse. It won't do a damn thing to make it better. And ignoring other people's right to free use and enjoyment of the public and private spaces THEY PAID FOR while claiming the rights of the homeless isn't going to win any friends for the homeless either.

 

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Teen seeks reduced sentence in Kenneth Lee case over strip searches
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Paola Loriggio
Published Aug 28, 2024 • 2 minute read

A teen girl who pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the alleged swarming of a homeless Toronto man is seeking to have her sentence reduced after she was repeatedly made to strip naked during searches while in custody.


The teen was one of eight girls — all between the ages of 13 and 16 — arrested in the death of Kenneth Lee, who police alleged was attacked by a group of girls in December 2022.

An agreed statement of facts related to the strip searches was read in court Wednesday as part of the teen’s sentencing hearing, which is scheduled to continue next month.

It said the girl, who was 13 at the time, was forced to strip naked on four occasions while in custody at a Kingston facility in the weeks following her arrest.

The document said she was also made to strip naked twice at a facility in London, Ont., earlier this year while in custody on an unrelated assault charge. She has since pleaded guilty to that charge, court heard.


The statement of facts said the searches were routine procedures after the girl arrived at a facility or returned from a family visit or court appearance.

A written policy that was in place at the Kingston facility from 2006 until January required youth to strip naked for searches, according to the agreed statement of facts. The London facility’s written policy had no such requirement, but two staff members “misunderstood,” the document said.

A Ministry of Children and Youth Services policy on in-custody searches states that while routine strip searches are permitted, “the young person must not be completely undressed for any period of time.”

Testifying on Wednesday, the girl said she didn’t realize for a long time that what happened to her was wrong.


The teen said she still feels shame surrounding the searches.

“I still get that feeling” of feeling dirty, she said, adding she is speaking to a counsellor about it.

“It was humiliating, to be honest … It made me feel really bad about myself,” she told the court.

The girl teared up as she told the court she has struggled with body image issues since she was a child and feels uncomfortable when people look at her.

At least two other girls who have pleaded guilty in the case are expected to make submissions related to strip searches.

In total, four girls have pleaded guilty in the case — three to manslaughter and one to assault causing bodily harm and assault with a weapon.

The remaining four girls are set to be tried in Superior Court next year, three of them on a charge of second-degree murder and one on a charge of manslaughter.

None of the girls can be identified under the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

Teen seeks reduced sentence in Kenneth Lee case over strip searches

A teen girl who pleaded guilty to manslaughter wants her sentence reduced after she was repeatedly made to strip naked during searches.

torontosun.com