Egypt on the Verge of Collapse?

CDNBear

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Wouldn't that depend on how much the US and Israel don't interfere behind the scenes as they have with other Nations once the relationship is no longer desired by the host Nations.
How could I forget!!!??? The Joos did it...

 

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How could I forget!!!??? The Joos did it...
Why would 'Jews' want to sink Iceland's economy??? No tax on geothermal power as it is 'renewable'? Notice how they faded from the headlines as soon as they started actually punishing politicians and bankers who acted against the 'majority'. A bloodless victory, the thugs in Egypt are agents for the 30 year dictator, he is ultimately controlled by the same ones that have the Jews by the balls.

Israel isn't acting silently on what they see as the only solution they are comfortable with in Egypt, or anyplace else in the world. It still boils down to a civilian Gov is there as a 'luxury', even in Canada freedom ends with the PM uttering two words, 'Martial Law' and it is time for the military to lock and load and train those weapons on the same ones that make their existence possible. The US and Isreal are famous for bragging that barring a full on military assault they will gladly act in a subversive manner with acts (of terrorism) to make their preferred options become the rule, despite the will of the majority of the people.
 

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Israel is not Jews and Jews are not Israel. Or do you consider that Israel is a theocratic state instead of a Democracy? Isn't it demeaning to use the playground term Joos when you mean Jews? Personally I think it is.

Maybe spelling isn't his long suit. :smile:
 

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Fell asleep in the middle of a sentence too.

By OT Law a rich Jew is supposed to support Jews that are poor. Not only them but anybody from the 12 Tribes. To allow a condition to continue that is detrimental to the welfare of all the Tribes would be unjust to say the least. As far as they are concerned the more there are like Lazarus the beggar and the Rich Man who was a member of the '12 Tribes'.

The Jewish gangster of NY,NY in the roaring 20's might not have been entirely liked by the whole of the Jewish community but that didn't mean they were 'ignored' when certain 'business problems' cropped up.
That is a sign of being two faced rather than a crook becoming 'authorized to do illegal things' for the greater good (of the Jewish community).

Egypt's revolt might be a sign that oppression only works for about 30 years (in this case) before the oppressed decide changes are needed no matter the cost. The truly sad part is the ones who vocally support democracy are also the first ones to use violence as a solution to any move for the citizens to have the voice of authority. It is routine in Iraq.
Iraq swirls with rumors of Egypt-like protests to come - CSMonitor.com
" With their televisions set to 24-hour coverage of the turmoil in Egypt, Iraqis have mounted a number of modest protests in recent days against power, water, and food shortages. On Thursday, police opened fire on demonstrators in the southern city of Diwaniya, wounding three.A grinding refrain from Iraqis for years has been that their government fails them, a complaint that is echoing louder now as popular anger rises against Arab regimes across the Middle East.
“It will happen in Iraq,” says Mohammad Ali, a trained economist and former policeman, now unemployed for nearly five years, speaking in central Baghdad. “The government is doing nothing for us.” "

According to the CIA fact-book Egypt scores higher by 3% for having fewer people living below the poverty line. Consumption also has a 3% difference, not enough to show that there is a cream of the crop and then doormat material. Not any better than a brutal dictatorship of about the same length.

Population below poverty line:
23.6%
note: Israel's poverty line is $7.30 per person per day (2007)

Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 2.5%
highest 10%: 24.3% (2008)
 
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The American government gives Egyptians aid on a daily basis. Most of it subsidizes their military. If Mubarak doesn't resign and hand over power to a unity government, Obama should play this card. Stop the aid and let the Egyptian military know it comes back the moment a transitional unity government holds power. I predict the Egyptian military would not miss a single payment...

Its time the US threw Mubarak under the bus.


This useful idiot sides with the Egyptian people, freedom and democracy against Mubarak, oppression, tyranny and PM Stephen Harper.

The Egyptian Military are the ones supporting Mubarak (paying him), he is not paying the military with foreign money/supplies received. If Mubarak goes, it will be military who decides it, and the military who installs next leader. This uprising is not at the level yet to overthrow them.
 

CDNBear

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Israel is not Jews and Jews are not Israel.
And Joos are Joos, not Jews. Unless we're talking about them Montreal Jews, they be my Heebs back home. They said to say Shalom.

Or do you consider that Israel is a theocratic state instead of a Democracy?
I consider it a democracy with flaws.
Isn't it demeaning to use the playground term Joos when you mean Jews?
When conversing with you or MHz, it's been my experience, that using language I would use with adults, is a waste of time.

Personally I think it is.
That's a lie. You don't think.

Maybe spelling isn't his long suit. :smile:
No, my long suit is in the cleaners. I got bubble gum in my fur.
 

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Six years after his ouster, Egypt's ex-President Hosni Mubarak has been released from detention after being cleared of inciting the killings of hundreds of protesters in 2011.

Mubarak, 88, on Friday left a military hospital in Cairo's southern suburb of Maadi where he had been held in custody and went to his home in the upscale Heliopolis district under heavy security.

His lawyer, Farid el-Deeb, told the Egyptian newspaper al-Masry al-Youm that he celebrated his release with breakfast his wife Suzanne and their two sons, Alaa and Gamal.

Mubarak was cleared for release earlier this month after the country's highest appeals court acquitted him of any involvement in the deaths of nearly 900 Egyptians during the 25 January - 11 February 2011 uprising.

He had been sentenced to life in 2012 but an appeals court dismissed the charges two years later.

Timothy Kaldas, a non-resident fellow at the Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy, told Al Jazeera that it was unlikely "both now or any time in the foreseeable future that anyone will be prosecuted for the murders.

"Mubarak being in or out of prison doesn't change the fact that the military the took control in Egypt in 1952 continues to rule Egypt today.

"[Mubarak's] role in Egyptian politics is of limited consequence today, [but] there's a real sense of injustice that while many revolutionaries are in prison - he has walked free."

The ouster of Mubarak, who ruled Egypt for 29 years, led to the country's first free election but the winner, Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed Morsi, was overthrown in a military coup in 2013.

Army chief Abdel Fattah el-Sisi has since waged a fierce crackdown on Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood with human rights groups claiming as many as 60,000 political prisoners currently languish in Egypt's jails.

In contrast, Mubarak-era figures are slowly being cleared of charges and a series of laws curtailing political freedoms have raised fears among activists that the old leadership is regaining influence.

"As Hosni Mubarak goes free in Egypt, thousands of prisoners still languish in horrific prison conditions," Harriet McCulloch, a deputy director at human rights organisation Reprieve, told Al Jazeera.

"Many face the death penalty on charges relating to protests, in mass trials that make a mockery of due process," McCulloch added.

"Some were arrested as children - people like Irish citizen Ibrahim Halawa, who has suffered terrible abuses in jail. The Sisi government must now show that Egypt's justice system is worthy of the name and release Ibrahim, and the hundreds like him."

A former air force chief and vice president, Mubarak became president after fighters who had infiltrated the army shot dead president Anwar Sadat during a military parade in 1981.

Mubarak, then vice president, was metres away from Sadat during the attack and was shot in the hand. He was sworn in as president eight days later.

Hosni Mubarak walks free after six-year detention | Egypt News | Al Jazeera