some are...the ones that thrive on advertising and ratings most...that's why this stuff is important.
Ebola is coming to kill us all but it's nothing to worry about
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some are...the ones that thrive on advertising and ratings most...that's why this stuff is important.
it is concerning...I read a book about Ebola likely 25 years ago...he pretty much predicted it would happen exactly this way...of course it was dismissed.
At that time in an African country where it would pop up, they would place all of the infected into one of the huts...and later it would be torched. They would flee into the jungle until it had gone to ground. That always had contained it before. It's not like they didn't know this was coming. they did
I did not know about the ebola only existing outside of a host for several hours...that's a long time to be on an escalator rail, or an elevator button....that is one f*ck of a long time
This is going to get worse before it gets better. I feel really sorry for those poor front line health care people in Africa and here. What a nightmare they've been through.
yep because things turn too american-centric too quickly...shiny jingly keys for the media instead of getting to the bottom of things.
I think Ebola is a natural phenomenon as we've always known that when the population of the planet reaches a certain point, Mother Nature is going to "take care of things" and of course it's the most vulnerable who are going to go first. We've learned during the past 50 years that vaccines are a temporary measure at best (sort of like raising the ocean level by pissing in it) It's certainly not the way I'd like to go but if this doesn't get us something else will eventually.
Simple- Small pox is an anomaly. We managed to kill the disease right off before the vaccine lost its effect. What other diseases have been eradicated?
Ebola monitoring inconsistent as virus spread
DALLAS (AP) -- The top administrator in Dallas County rushed to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital this week responding to urgent news: One of its nurses had caught Ebola from a patient. He quickly asked for the hospital's watch list to find out who else might be at risk.
Judge Clay Jenkins, who is overseeing the county's emergency response, was told there was no such list. Simply put, nurse Nina Pham and her co-workers, who were handing fluids, inserting IVs and cleaning Thomas Eric Duncan in his dying days, were supposed to take their own temperatures and let someone know if they felt sick.
That wasn't nearly enough for Jenkins, and that evening, he began to make changes. Hospital officials told potentially exposed hospital workers to stop seeing patients other than Pham.
But the next day, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention allowed another nurse who cared for Duncan, Amber Vinson, to get on a plane in Ohio and fly to Dallas with a mild fever. She was later diagnosed with Ebola, and CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden has conceded that she "should not have traveled on a commercial airline."
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DALLAS (AP) -- The top administrator in Dallas County rushed to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital this week responding to urgent news: One of its nurses had caught Ebola from a patient. He quickly asked for the hospital's watch list to find out who else might be at risk.
Judge Clay Jenkins, who is overseeing the county's emergency response, was told there was no such list. Simply put, nurse Nina Pham and her co-workers, who were handing fluids, inserting IVs and cleaning Thomas Eric Duncan in his dying days, were supposed to take their own temperatures and let someone know if they felt sick.
That wasn't nearly enough for Jenkins, and that evening, he began to make changes. Hospital officials told potentially exposed hospital workers to stop seeing patients other than Pham.
But the next day, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention allowed another nurse who cared for Duncan, Amber Vinson, to get on a plane in Ohio and fly to Dallas with a mild fever. She was later diagnosed with Ebola, and CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden has conceded that she "should not have traveled on a commercial airline."
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Ebola is 'disaster of our generation' says aid agency
London (AFP) - Aid agency Oxfam on Saturday said Ebola could become the "definitive humanitarian disaster of our generation", as US President Barack Obama urged against "hysteria" in the face of the growing crisis.
Oxfam, which works in the two worst-hit countries -- Liberia and Sierra Leone -- called for more troops, funding and medical staff to be sent to tackle the west African epicentre of the epidemic.
Chief executive Mark Goldring warned that the world was "in the eye of a storm".
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Ebola is 'disaster of our generation' says aid agency
London (AFP) - Aid agency Oxfam on Saturday said Ebola could become the "definitive humanitarian disaster of our generation", as US President Barack Obama urged against "hysteria" in the face of the growing crisis.
Oxfam, which works in the two worst-hit countries -- Liberia and Sierra Leone -- called for more troops, funding and medical staff to be sent to tackle the west African epicentre of the epidemic.
Chief executive Mark Goldring warned that the world was "in the eye of a storm".
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Ebola is 'disaster of our generation' says aid agency
barry, WHO and CDC have it all covered...not to worry.
O'Hare becomes the latest airport to pretend it can screen passengers for the Ebola virus
O'Hare becomes the latest airport to pretend it can screen passengers for the Ebola virus
Vaccine has lost it's effect? A temporary measure? That's the bit I'm zeroing in on. What are these comments based on? Tuberculosis vaccines introduced in 1921, nearly a century later they're still effective.
Small pox eradication didn't occur until 183 years after the vaccine came along...
In my field, the use of antibiotics has plummeted as vaccines have been introduced.
In order for a vaccine to lose it's effect, the organism in the field would have to mutate. A lot. Conversely, that's why some diseases like influenza are very difficult to make highly efficacious vaccines for. The virus mutates more quickly.
Certainly some organisms are better candidates than others for vaccines. But that is not to say that vaccines have become ineffective. The body of evidence against that claim is staggeringly large.
The cattle disease rinderpest. There are eradication campaigns in place for other diseases. Polio for example, which was actually dealt a huge blow by the CIA. They were impersonating WHO workers in Pakistan, one of the last countries where polio has a strong hold. They were doing this to find Bin Laden.
Leading U.S. scientist warns deadly virus is already changing to become more contagious
Leading scientist warns Ebola is changing to become more contagious* | Daily Mail Online
but but...CDC and WHO.
Mea culpa, I misspoke I meant to say antibiotics, thinking mainly of things like penicillin and others.
Ahh, well that's a whole other kettle of fish. Yes, they are losing effectiveness, and it's maddening to read some of this stuff. Duncan was sent home from that Dallas ER with a script for antibiotics...they had no confirmation of a bacterial infection, not even a probable diagnosis, yet they prescribe antibiotics.
The USA is particularly bad for this. While other countries, including Canada, have banned the sub-therapeutic use of antibiotics as growth promoters in livestock, the US stubbornly has not followed, even though we know that it's one of the largest pressures on producing antibiotic resistance. They instead choose to 'limit' the amount of antibiotics that are medically important to humans, used in livestock. They chose to phase them out over time. The Ag lobby argued that the economic implications of removing these uses could cost up to 5 cents more per pound for pork...In 1999 the EU banned sub-therapeutic use, and since then the prevalence of antibiotic resistance has gone down, without negative impacts on hog health.
Probably time for someone to head down and have a talk with Barrack. Gerry could probably convince him! -
Why does the CDC own a patent on Ebola 'invention?'
...Yes, we've heard this music before, but the last time around it was called Swine Flu.
The formula is always the same: create alarm, bring a vaccine to market, then scare governments into buying billions of dollars worth of vaccines they don't need...
Why does the CDC own a patent on Ebola 'invention?' - NaturalNews.com
...Yes, we've heard this music before, but the last time around it was called Swine Flu.
The formula is always the same: create alarm, bring a vaccine to market, then scare governments into buying billions of dollars worth of vaccines they don't need...
Why does the CDC own a patent on Ebola 'invention?' - NaturalNews.com
Yes, see, this is the exact type of thing, an almost systemic complacency ("Ah, I'm sure it's fine, here's a prescription") that causes me consternation. As a lay person who is not prone to panic or paranoia, I know this exists within our healthcare system, I've seen it. Then we have an outbreak of Ebola, something as a layperson I would call a moderate contagion but with a high mortality rate, start to make it's way through the west (barely, granted, but still make it's way) where we have the protocols and procedures in place to deal with these things but don't because of the previously mentioned 'complacency'. Then all we hear from the authorities, through the MSM, is basically two stories: There is no cause for alarm or Everybody Panic.
As I said, not prone to panic or paranoia here but I'm just not sure the sense of "It won't happen here, this is Ohio/Maine/Nevada, etc" won't win out over the protocols and procedures. Because I'm not seeing that being addressed adequately.