Harikrish
Bump to you.
When you come out of that calming position I wonder if you will have some answers.
Easily misunderstood part of the Bible (Luke 14:25-26)
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Harikrish
Bump to you.
When you come out of that calming position I wonder if you will have some answers.
Nothing was removed from the 10 Commandments. Jesus also told the rich man that to finish his journey he would have to give up money, that was a step he was not willing to take at that time. If Jesus felt a closer bond to God than His earthy parents after His baptism and 40 day fast and a few other things then when you and anybody else has experienced the same 'gifts' then your first loyalty will be to God, just like the fist of the 10 Commandments and the 1st Law of the NT, love God. What is left unsaid in that is God gives you plenty of reasons to feel that way. If Jesus didn't like His mom He wouldn't have left the Beloved Disciple to care for her above her own children.
Jas:2:8-11:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Sounds like we have another contradiction in the NT. It is time we treat Jesus as a person and apply to him psychological traits common to children with developmental problems. Jesus had a troubled childhood which led to his delusional beliefs and Messiah complex.
It is harder to treat someone after they have already formed their belief system. If Joseph did not tell Jesus he was not his real father, Jesus might have grown up like any normal Jewish child. But the traumatic revelation forced Jesus to search for his real father. Adultery was punishable by death/stoning. So it was unlikely anyone would come forward and admit to being Jesus's real father.
So what was a disturbed child to do? He searched the scriptures and found his true Father and justification for what was later identified as his messiah complex. There is evidence of his early obsession with scriptures. At the age of 12 he was already well versed in the Bible and called the temple his Father's home.
Luke 2:46 After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions.
47 Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers.
48 When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, "Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you."
49 "Why were you searching for me?" he asked. "Didn't you know I had to be in my Father's house?"
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How badly was Jesus scarred by learning Joseph was not his real father. There is evidence he took it all very badly and made it his mission to destroy the traditional family.
Matthew 10:35 For I have come to turn " 'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--
36 a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'
37 "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;
Is someone trying to remove something from the 10 commandments, MHz?
Not following your line of thinking here, HK.
Trolling again are you.
You view is quite limited for one that makes such claims such as this.
Vedantist - definition of Vedantist by The Free Dictionary
Ve·dan·ta (v-dänt, -dn-)
n. Hinduism
The system of philosophy that further develops the implications in the Upanishads that all reality is a single principle, Brahman, and teaches that the believer's goal is to transcend the limitations of self-identity and realize one's unity with Brahman.
I assume you subscribe to this as well?
Brahman - definition of Brahman by The Free Dictionary
Brah·man (brämn)
n.
1. also Brah·ma (-m) Hinduism
a. A religious formula or prayer and the holy or sacred power in it and in the officiating priest.
b. The holy or sacred power that is the source and sustainer of the universe.
c. The single absolute being pervading the universe and found within the individual; atman.
2. also Brahmin (-mn) A member of the highest of the four major castes of traditional Indian society, responsible for officiating at religious rites and studying and teaching the Vedas.
3. also Brah·ma (-m) or Brah·min (-mn) One of a breed of domestic cattle developed in the southern United States from stock originating in India and having a hump between the shoulders and a pendulous dewlap. Well adapted to hot climates, it is used chiefly for crossbreeding.
Do you also subscribe to this?
Caste system in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The caste system in India is a system of social stratification[2] which historically separated communities into thousands of endogamous hereditary groups called jātis,[3] usually translated into English as "castes". The jātis are thought of as being grouped into four varnas:[4] Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Shudras. Certain groups, now known as "Dalits", were excluded from the varna system altogether, ostracised as untouchables.[5][6]
Hindus believe in reincarnations or cycle of rebirths. By living a pure life their next life will be rewarded by returning in a higher form or more privilege position. Christian have to be resurrected to be united with their body and soul. But that can only happen with Jesus's second coming. Hindus are not limited by Jesus's unfulfilled promise.
Hindus believe in Brahman or (c) in your list of definitions.
India has a caste system much like the British have a class system. People are classified by their occupation or trade. It is much deeper than Americans who discriminate based on the colour of ones skin. But Canada is the only country where a large population of Canadians want to separate from the rest of Canada. I wonder why?
I don't think Jesus gave up anything. He at 30 was unmarried, unemployed and identified as a carpenters son. What he did was trade all that to be given authority over heaven and earth or so he thought. But what did his disciples get? They were all eventually killed. Bummer!!!!
Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Someone was saying the laws other than the 10 Commandments had not been parked by about Acts:10, I was disagreeing with that
Why would it be surprising that Jesus asked his beloved disciple to care for his mother. We know Jesus was greatly scarred when Joseph told him he was not his real father. Jesus searched the scriptures and began to believe God was his real father at the age of 12, telling Mary and Joseph he was in his fathers home when they found him in the temple.
But all that suddenly changed when Jesus found himself being crucified and felt betrayed by his father again , this time God. So it is expected his distrust for fathers caused him to turn to a disciple instead for help to care for his surviving mother.
Matthew 27:46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").
Maybe you are thinking of your dad.
If Joseph was about 30 when he married then 30 years later that is old age for men in that time and place.
If Joseph was about 30 when he married then 30 years later that is old age for men in that time and place.
Yet your Religion, with the Caste system has numerous Honor killings when this occurs.
Even the Sikhs have these killings.
Which makes the question I ask you important. What value is placed on a human life?
What value is placed upon a person in differing castes?
Then read up on why some in Quebec want to separate. You will find that the majority do not. In the last referendum, the question itself was confusing. And the reason why the vote then was close.
Then again India does itself has the same problem. Punjab, Assam, Bodoland come to mind.Then you have the mess in Kasmir, then you have Khalistan.
Then you have mass killing by Hindus, the majority of victims of Muslims & Christians. This became more prevalent under the Bharatiya Janata Party
Violence against Muslims in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Role of political parties
Many social scientists feel that many of these acts of violence are institutionally supported, particularly by political parties and organizations connected to the Hindu nationalist party, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. In particular, scholars fault the Bharatiya Janata Party and the Shiv Sena or complicity in these incidents of violence[23][24][25][26][27] and of using violence against Muslims as a part of a larger electoral strategy.[25][28] For example, research by Raheel Dhattiwala and Michael Biggs has stated that killings are far higher in areas where the BJP faces stiff electoral opposition than in areas in which it is already strong.[9] In 1989, the north of India saw an increase in orchestrated attacks on Muslims, and the BJP had further success in the local and state elections.[29] and the social anthropologist Stanley Jeyaraja Tambiah concludes that the violence in Bhagalpur in 1989, Hashimpura in 1987 and in Moradabad 1980 were organised killings.[30] According to Ram Puniyani, the Shiv Sena were victorious in the elections due to the violence in the 1990s, and the BJP in Gujarat after the 2002 violence.[31] Gyan Prakash, however, has cautions that the BJP actions in Gujarat does not equate to the entirety of India, and it remains to be seen if the Hindutva movement is successful in deployment of this strategy nationwide.[32]
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How little you understand. I refer to this quote where it is clear that you beleive that Muslims willing to die supports their belief that they have the one true god.
Rather simplistic at the best.
The majority of Indians especially Hindus are vegetarian because even the taking of an animals life is repulsive. India is the largest democracy in the world. Indians enjoy more freedom that say the blacks or Hispanics in America. It is also the most peaceful country in the world with no record of foreign expansionism. Religious clashes are local disputes but do not effect the high level of national tolerance towards minorities.
Muslims ruled india for several centuries and Indians suffered under their brutal rule. To equate a few local clashes between Muslims and Hindus is to ignore the brutality Indians endured under Muslim rule. BTW Pakistan attacked India 3 times and were repelled.
The native Indians in Canada are worse off that the native Indians in the US. Canada was admonished by the human rights UN commission for their inhuman treatment of their native Indians. Quebec was shy of a few votes to win separation from Canada. Because of the Liberal concessions to Quebec, the province has toned down its separatist agenda. Canada signed the Kyoto accord and then negated on their promise. Think what it does to Canadians when the national pastime is chasing a black rubber puck aimlessly around a ice rink?
Local disputes where Hindus run the show- Minorities step out of line. Yep local- as in all of India.
So called largest democracy-
World Report 2013: India | Human Rights Watch
India, the world’s most populous democracy, continues to have significant human rights problems despite making commitments to tackle some of the most prevalent abuses. The country has a thriving civil society, free media, and an independent judiciary. But longstanding abusive practices, corruption, and lack of accountability for perpetrators foster human rights violations.
Sri Lanka -
Operation Pawan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And that justifies mass murders today?
Dalits
India: 'Untouchable' Dalits Still Forced to Collect Human Waste
Laws exist to curb this form of subjugation, yet it remains widespread across India. Dalit women typically collect waste from private homes, while the men do the more physically demanding, and hazardous, maintenance of septic tanks and public sewers. Many suffer injuries and serious health problems.
Can you explain this nonsense?
Why go that far to discredit something?
Christians 'less devout' than Muslims in Britain
Christians are less devout than followers of other religions in Britain, according to new research.
Christians 'less devout' than Muslims in Britain - Telegraph
However just 32 per cent of Christians said they “actively practised” their religion, in a Department for Communities and Local Government survey analysed by the ONS.
“In contrast, 80 per cent of Muslims actively practised their religion, the highest proportion of those with a religion.”
In addition, 70 per cent of Hindus, 66 per cent of Sikhs and Buddhists and 51 per cent of followers of other religions described themselves as devout.
India currently is able to feed and support over 1.2 billion Indians. This is despite being invaded by the Romans, Muslims,British and Chinese. If not for these foreign invasions india would have been a beacon of light to the rest of the world.
India has a large agricultural sector - employment is significant portion of total employment. Low income, basically bottom of the economic scale.
Now compare production to Canada?
You cannot keep up my friend -According to you Islam is correct due to the many that you say would die for the religion.
Christianity is wrong based upon the number of fervent believers.
You interpretations of the Bible. Fire your teacher and hire a new one is the best advice I can offer.
You support a degradation of the lowest caste, Untouchables, yet state you are a democracy - India is just above the basic stages of democracy.
China is leaving you behind. Why is that?
You trivialize mass murders of minorities, yet a democracy is based upon the rule of law. How well is that working for ya?
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You speak of being born again, an ongoing but not endless cycle until perfection has been achieved and then extinction.
Being the 7nth son of a 7nth son, I see a long period of births in your future.
Possibly ending when the Messiah returns.
Indians are indigenous to India. Canadians are occupies/invaders Europeans who took the country from the native Indians just like America and Australia. If not for these occupations the British would be confined to a little island with extreme austerity.
Same can be stated about China and Tibet
India and the various states it usurped.
Russia and their expansion west and east.
As to NA- Australia.
Nope- We just arrived later.
Note the map provided.
Time Lapsed World Map of the Spread & Stages of Human Evolution - YouTube
No replies on my religious questions.
No replies on democracy
No replies on rule of law.
Is your teacher confused or have you fired that one?
No cuz England wuz one of our earlier savage invasions. The anglo saxon refuses to recognize borders, we are actually slow moving migrants following the fish. The victims of ocean retreat.
I think the first page of the Bible is easily the most misunderstood and I'm certain most purchases of the book remain unread primarily because of the horrible writing. It's not something anyone should try to read, it's a refference work, modern interpretations by non christianized authors is a much saner place to start.
What is left for Christians to believe in?
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Growing number of Christians don't believe in the Virgin birth.
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Survey finds growing number of Christians don't believe in resurrection..
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Growing number of Christians don't believe in the Virgin birth.
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