E. coli strain in Germany is not novel
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There is stabilized oxygen in tap water...drinking plain water is often recommended to anyone suffering from traveler's diarrhea, and often oral re-hydration therapy is administered by adding salts and sugars to the water, to replace the electrolytes you've lost. The liquid oxygen was not what was helping you recover, it was the salt.
The main cause of travelers diarrhea is enterogenic E.coli, which is a facultative anaerobe. What that means is that it anaerobically produces ATP, the energy all cells use, in the presence of oxygen. Facultative anaerobes mostly produce energy by fermentation in anaerobic conditions. If it were an obligate anearobe, then it would die in the presence of oxygen. The bug in question does not.
I have read about this disease, but should one speak anything other than what he knows very well, or give a solution to such a problem, or else what should anyone say anything?
We lived on the country, next to and downhill from a dairy farm. We had well water. One day, just for lark I took a sample of our well water for testing. The results indicated that both my wife and I should be dead because of contamination from the cows next door.
We installed ultra-violet light on our water line, just to be sure.
Bottom line, though, is that some people can die from a cold, while others, like us, can safely ignore perceived life-threatening contamination.
So, I think that our resistance to E-coli was not novel, but poetry at its finest.
We installed ultra-violet light on our water line, just to be sure.
Bottom line, though, is that some people can die from a cold, while others, like us, can safely ignore perceived life-threatening contamination.
So, I think that our resistance to E-coli was not novel, but poetry at its finest.
You have to keep in mind that not all E.coli is the same. You and I and everyone who uses this forum has E.coli populations in their gut. In fact it's one of the first microbes to populate the human gut, within days of birth all infants are initially colonized by large numbers of E. coli and streptococci, often reaching 10^8–10^10/g feces.
Did they tell you what strain of E.coli it is? That's really what is important. E.coli presence indicates fecal contamination, as it's found in the digestive tract of all warm blooded species, and in some poikilotherms as well, but doesn't mean you necessarily should become ill.
The E coli is not far from you.
The infant will not have rest of his bowel until the microbes in his gut will be at equilibrium at about 3 months of age, and then his colic will be less. One of the commensal bacteria in the gut is the E coli (and there is parasitic micro-organism also called E coli, but it is not Escherichia coli and not a bacteria; it is Entameba coli: it is a commensal microorganism not like the E histolytica which causes the Amoebic dysentry).
The E coli is dangerous when it contaminates the nearby urinary tract specially in women (90%of the urinary tract infection is in females) and it is dangerous when contaminate the blood stream causing Septicemia, and dangerous when contaminates the peritoneum causing Peritonitis.
But such strain of E coli living in the vegetables and causing death to man ... this is very strange.
Full of rancor and hatred.
I don't think so.
It is a pathogen created by God to let the ungrateful and enthusiastic associaters suffer: death casualties, fear and economic loss, in addition to losing much of the vegetables and fruits: they burnt large amounts of these vegetables and fruits.
Yep, very true. We used to drink the water from 'the slough' on our land (a horseshoe lake along the river). It was never 'nice' water. Had beaver ponds and ducks in it, not to mention us raising cattle along it. I wouldn't even want to consider what we were consuming in terms of bacteria load.
But, despite our flippant attitude toward it for us, we never allowed company to drink from it without a disclaimer, and simply NEVER allowed great grandma to drink from it when she would come to visit.
when it comes to being watchdogs for bacteria in our lives, health agencies are expected to think about the weak, because they're our 'canaries in a coal mine'. We can't be flippant about them getting sick.
Of course news of this e.coli outbreak broke just as I was headed to Deutschland, I was in Leipzig for a week and got reports regularly from home. It appeared the the outbreak occured much farther north. I ate weinerschnitzel, jagerschnitzel, donner kabap, all with veggies and sauerkraut, das war wunderbar, unt ich bin gut. You have to be careful no matter where you are, but considering this was a former Soviet Republic protectorate, I was particularly cautious, they are still playing catch up in the East.