Double Standard

[Shiva]

I also thought I'd point out that Islamic law forbids the depiction of Mohammed for fear that it would lead to idol worship or regarding him as more than a prophet.

That's clearly not a relevant concern in this matter (no one is going to worship these pictures as idols), so pointing to this particular part of Islamic law banning depictions of Mohammed as an explanation for why people are so incensed is misleading.

The real truth is that they're not happy that someone is criticising their 'prophet', period.

Are people here aware that some of the cartoons used as justification for violence were not even printed in the newspaper? The Danish Imam/Muslim religious leader who first attempted to seek an apology from the newspaper and then the Danish gov't and failed, then created a portfolio which included hatemail he & other Muslims received in Denmark, including 'amateur images of the Prophet as a pig, a dog, a woman and a child-sodomizing madman' , and then went on a tour throughout the Muslim world in important religious centres attempting to seek support to get an apology from the gov't and the newspapers over it. These are the images that are commonly being referred as abhorrent among Muslims in the Middle East, by people who largely seem aware that the newspaper never they're protesting against never published them!

Take a look at the interview of the guy here where they discuss all of this.

 

[MMMike]

Those ignorant dolts in the Middle East and elsewhere do not even know what they are protesting about. They haven't seen the actual cartoons that were published. They are simply pawns being led around by the fanatical mullahs. How dare they preach about cultural sensitivity to us? How dare they even say the words 'freedom of the press'?

 

[EagleSmack]

If you view Al-Jezzera on line and look at their political cartoon section you will see that it is rife with anti-semitism.

So the former poster was correct... holocaust cartoons and anti-semetic cartoons are nothing new to them.

 

[Jersay]

I'm getting sick and tired of this.

It is a known fact that the Danish cartoonists and editor did the cartoons to bait the Muslim people.

Now, someone brings up a good point. The Holocuast happened, and you can't speak negatively about it because it is considered a hate crime.

Well cartoons like these should also be considered a hate crime, a man was stabbed in Denmark after these cartoons were published, a Muslim man, does anyone care about that no.

It is because you are de humanizing the Muslim people like was done to the Jewish people before the Holocaust.

And it sickens me.

 

[nitzomoe]

Re: RE: Double Standard

No, they're not one and the same, because the cartoons on Mohammed critique ongoing political realities (where some Muslims are indeed committing crimes in the name of their religion) whereas cartoons denying the Holocaust are not factual.

They're entirely two different things.

If we go by your argument then they are one and the same, these cartoons are not showing the average muslim with a bomb as a turban, they are shoing the prophet mohammed with a bomb on a turban.

using your argument it is the same as promoting hate material about the holocaust in two ways (1) Bombs did not exist in mohammeds time thus a turban witha bomb in it is not factual and (2) Mohammed was not a terrorist.

Further, the intent of the two types of cartoons has to be taken into account- cartoons showing Jews and denying the Holocaust are purposely intended to stir up voilence against that community. Cartoons depicting violence in the name of Islam are critiquing that reality in the hope of stopping it.

actually if you bothered to read the editor's defence for the publication for those comics he clearly states that his intention was to stir up protest within the muslim community its an anti-immigration tabloid and they are intentionally inciting unrest in a community so using your argument again it is the samething.

 

[nitzomoe]

Re: RE: Double Standard

If you view Al-Jezzera on line and look at their political cartoon section you will see that it is rife with anti-semitism.

So the former poster was correct... holocaust cartoons and anti-semetic cartoons are nothing new to them.

I consistently view al jazeera's webpage and have not seen anti-semitic cartoons ever on their sight, there exists a difference between mocking the current israeli prime minister and anti-semitism just for future reference.

 

[jimmoyer]

al Jazeera, "the island", in arabic, is quite a unique
broadcast channel in the area, pissing off Arab elites
and Arab street alike about women's rights, pissing
off the west with discussions of western immorality,
but you ought to google all Baghdad radio and Tv, for it
would really open the eyes of the liberal left, which
is quite an irony.

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[PoisonPete2]

Re: RE: Double Standard

I hate to be the first to inform you Das, Molson Canadian isn't really all that good...feel free to toss it at them.

Response ; and it isn't really Canadian anymore. It is owned by Cohrs.

 

[EagleSmack]

Re: RE: Double Standard

If you view Al-Jezzera on line and look at their political cartoon section you will see that it is rife with anti-semitism.

So the former poster was correct... holocaust cartoons and anti-semetic cartoons are nothing new to them.

I consistently view al jazeera's webpage and have not seen anti-semitic cartoons ever on their sight, there exists a difference between mocking the current israeli prime minister and anti-semitism just for future reference.

Oh yes there are. I took a course a few years back and one of the requirements was to read muslim news papers. Of course they were translated online versions. These papers were loaded DAILY with anti-semetic cartoons. Depicting Jewish people as hideous, big nosed monsters, druelling money and gold, pawing at muslim women and children...

Is that not anti-semetic these days?