Why does anyone care what the Mayor's niece has to say about anything?
I don't care that she says it. I care that it gets said. Because it's obtuse.
Why does anyone care what the Mayor's niece has to say about anything?
The two warnings are valid.I agree with everything you are saying. In regards to the "Wear hunter orange when in the woods," vs. "Don't dress in a revealing fashion," I would add that the comparison really fails because in the first case the person is likely shot accidentally (I don't think most hunters would intentionally kill a human) while in the second case the person really is intent on committing a crime against another person.
No one has said anything to the contrary.The real message, to me, is that there is nothing wrong with lasciviousness in women especially when it is already celebrated in men! Moreover, and especially with regards to this thread, even if a woman was dressing in a way she intended to look attractive or to try to appeal to men, that can never justify rape.
Not really.Because it's obtuse.
Apparently she tweeted a OOPS i'm sorry,i spoke too fast.I don't care that she says it. I care that it gets said. Because it's obtuse.
Not really.
Apparently she tweeted a OOPS i'm sorry,i spoke too fast.
I disagree, given that dress and behavior are key components of the objectification of women, and objectification is a component of rape, the correlation dictates that it is sound advice.Yes it is obtuse because it's a flippant remark that does a disservice to promoting the actual safety of women and it does nothing to work towards preventing any actual rapes from occurring.
I disagree, given that dress and behavior are key components of the objectification of women, and objectification is a component of rape, the correlation dictates that it is sound advice.
That's an absolute, based on what, I don't know. Logic dictates it plays a part to some statistical percentage, whatever it may be. Thus making the caution valid.Dress are key components to a woman's (even a man's) sexual image, but the difference between looking at an attractively dressed woman and seeing a sex object or a sexual being is in the eyes of the beholder, not the clothes she has on.
I disagree, given that dress and behavior are key components of the objectification of women, and objectification is a component of rape, the correlation dictates that it is sound advice.
Sometimes blunt isn't received well.But saying "dress and behavior are key components of the objectification of women, and objectification is a component of rape" is far, far different from saying "don't dress like a ****" because they are received differently and they imply different intents on the part of the speaker. So in the end, yes it does do more harm than good.
Yes.And I believe that ignoring that and trying to pick out a logical rationale behind the flippant remark without acknowledging the harm that it does, doesn't help matters. Do you see what I'm saying?
True, but I do use it in a slightly different context. But I'll concede.I've seen you say before, many, many times, that words are important. That is what I am trying to convey here.