Does God exist?
- Thread starter Kreskin
- Start date
Hmmm...a creator god that would destroy one of his creations because he was not convincing enough...
Sounds like barbarous thinking to me...
Good day Vanni, where do these people come up with this crap?
First of all they have never met with God, no question there is a supreme being, good point why would God spend time creating and spend equal time destroying his creation. The theory of God destroying things, makes God look like he is bipolar......crap........
"God took a piece of Adam and made Eve, holly **** Adam must have had a big scar on the side of his body......oh I forgot and Got used some skin coloring given the different pigmentations we have to make a Chinese person, a black person and so on..... Believing such mythology proves how gullible a person is.
I saying to you from before
this life not the last life
this life just test
and we do not know when the last time we stay in this life
just the god know that
even we always work to the next life
and the god forgive every thing If he want just the mantrap he do not forgive that
The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them;
ahmadabdalrhman
I am just going to say that I really hope ahmadabdalrhman's calls for Jews and Christians to be killed isn't the norm. - Scott Free
Scott Free, ahmadabdalrhman is an example of a Fundamentalist Muslim (‘Death to infidels’), the counter part of the religious right. Such are the philosophies out of which Mohammed Attas (terrorists) of the world are born.
I think opinion polls indicate that there are about 10% Muslims (about 100 million of them) who subscribe to the extreme interpretation of Islam similar to Wahabism, who will cheerfully slit the throat of any non Muslim and call it Allah’s work.
While 90% Muslims are peaceful and rational people, just like you or I, 100 million is way too high. That is why eternal vigilance against terrorism is called for. The threat of terrorism is very real.
Anyway, even though somebody like Ahmadabdalrhman wishes the death to infidels like you or I, the beautiful aspect of a democracy is that even terrorist sympathizers like him have the freedom of speech here.
Before I signed on, I read some of the threads, and I made a conscious decision not to respond to the Muslim Fundamentalist wackos. Let them spout their fundamentalist, extreme nonsense, hate filled rhetoric and be done with it. If the moderators tolerate their presence, that is their business, but I am not going to dignify such utterings (‘may Allah destroy them’) by responding to them.
But here is something to think about. In a utopia as envisaged by the likes of ahmadabdalrhman, Atheists such as you or I will be the first to be rounded up and placed in concentration camps.
ahmadabdalrhman
I am just going to say that I really hope ahmadabdalrhman's calls for Jews and Christians to be killed isn't the norm. - Scott Free
Scott Free, ahmadabdalrhman is an example of a Fundamentalist Muslim (‘Death to infidels’), the counter part of the religious right. Such are the philosophies out of which Mohammed Attas (terrorists) of the world are born.
I think opinion polls indicate that there are about 10% Muslims (about 100 million of them) who subscribe to the extreme interpretation of Islam similar to Wahabism, who will cheerfully slit the throat of any non Muslim and call it Allah’s work.
While 90% Muslims are peaceful and rational people, just like you or I, 100 million is way too high. That is why eternal vigilance against terrorism is called for. The threat of terrorism is very real.
Anyway, even though somebody like Ahmadabdalrhman wishes the death to infidels like you or I, the beautiful aspect of a democracy is that even terrorist sympathizers like him have the freedom of speech here.
Before I signed on, I read some of the threads, and I made a conscious decision not to respond to the Muslim Fundamentalist wackos. Let them spout their fundamentalist, extreme nonsense, hate filled rhetoric and be done with it. If the moderators tolerate their presence, that is their business, but I am not going to dignify such utterings (‘may Allah destroy them’) by responding to them.
But here is something to think about. In a utopia as envisaged by the likes of ahmadabdalrhman, Atheists such as you or I will be the first to be rounded up and placed in concentration camps.
Last edited:
I take this to mean that you're saying god will forgive everything except non-belief...
Which is why I said that according to your beliefs, your creator god would destroy those he has not convinced...those that do not believe in him...
Maybe it would be better for him to be more convincing...then he wouldn't have to destroy so many...
Of course given the knowledge that your creator god would kill those that don't believe in him just leads to even more disbelief on the part of people who are able to think outside the Quran...
Popular nonsense, long before atheists like you are rounded up by fundementalist muslims you would already have been burned at the stake by fundy christians, people with very serious mental problems. These muslims don't have a fraction of the terrible weapons our gentle christian fundementalists do. You're afraid of propaganda cartoons Sir.
You two should read a bit more, God doesn't kill anything He has made, when the time comes He just puts His creations where they best belong, everybody is still very much alive. I'm sure you two would agree that putting one type with that same type is the right thing to do, apples and fire do not belong in the same box no do they.
BTW, when the Bible says somebody is black that is because they died of starvation, black is the color of death.
Job:30:30:
My skin is black upon me,
and my bones are burned with heat.
Only an atheist, probably a bigoted one at that, could define people by the color of their skin. Go live in the tropics for a few generation and see what color your children's children's children are.
But this is not what Alabamallama was saying...
He was justifying killing non-muslims because Allah says it's ok...
Interesting...but so what...
Hmmm...so it was atheists that controlled the African slave trade on two continents for hundreds of years...
Thanks for the update...:roll:
MHZ, good day to you, my example of God using coloring to change pigmentation color was not playing the ethnic card. It was simply entering the theater of the truth with respect to three main human pigmentations of color, why was there a white Adam and not Black Adam or Chinese Adam, that question alone introduces the wide range of mythology that has been included into the Bible...medical science would disapprove of the theory of God taking a chunk of Adam’s side and there by creating Eve.....
To embrace myth as reality is naive gullible and dangerous......
I got this one...
The doctrine and cannon was delivered and decided upon by Europeans...not a single african or asian among them...most had probably not even seen someone of different skin pigmentation...
That's also why the pictures of Jesus all depict him as being caucasian...ever see a picture of Jesus where he looks asian?
These Muslims don't have a fraction of the terrible weapons our gentle Christian fundamentalists do. You're afraid of propaganda cartoons Sir.
Darkbeaver, you are quite right, that is indeed what Christians used to do, they used to burn Atheists at the stake. And if God forbid (pun intended), religious right ever succeeds in achieving power in USA and is able to establish Fundamentalist Theocracy in USA, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens again.
However, the point is, Christians do not do it any longer, haven’t done it for several hundred years (discounting the Salem witch trials). Christians had the Reformation. Reformation humanized Christianity; it was tamed by the secular influences.
However, Islam has had no such Reformation (they need one badly). The practices that Christians used to follow in the Middle Ages in Europe are followed even today in some Sharia governed countries.
At this stage, I would be much more afraid of a Fundamentalist Muslim Theocracy than a Fundamentalist Christian Theocracy. The recent election in USA has clipped the wings of religious right anyway. Sure they will bounce back, but it is going to take them time.
So the possibility of a Christian Theocracy is remote, as of now. However, we see Fundamentalist Muslim Theocracy in action in many places, such as Saudi Arabia or Iran.
Darkbeaver, you are quite right, that is indeed what Christians used to do, they used to burn Atheists at the stake. And if God forbid (pun intended), religious right ever succeeds in achieving power in USA and is able to establish Fundamentalist Theocracy in USA, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens again.
However, the point is, Christians do not do it any longer, haven’t done it for several hundred years (discounting the Salem witch trials). Christians had the Reformation. Reformation humanized Christianity; it was tamed by the secular influences.
However, Islam has had no such Reformation (they need one badly). The practices that Christians used to follow in the Middle Ages in Europe are followed even today in some Sharia governed countries.
At this stage, I would be much more afraid of a Fundamentalist Muslim Theocracy than a Fundamentalist Christian Theocracy. The recent election in USA has clipped the wings of religious right anyway. Sure they will bounce back, but it is going to take them time.
So the possibility of a Christian Theocracy is remote, as of now. However, we see Fundamentalist Muslim Theocracy in action in many places, such as Saudi Arabia or Iran.
why was there a white Adam and not Black Adam or Chinese Adam, that question alone introduces the wide range of mythology that has been included into the Bible.
Socrates The Greek, What makes you think that Adam or Jesus Christ was white (assuming either of them was real)?
I assume Garden of Eden was in the Middle East, so was the birthplace of Jesus. Chances are very high that both Adam and Jesus were of Arab extraction and hence, brown in colour (not black or white).
Socrates The Greek, What makes you think that Adam or Jesus Christ was white (assuming either of them was real)?
I assume Garden of Eden was in the Middle East, so was the birthplace of Jesus. Chances are very high that both Adam and Jesus were of Arab extraction and hence, brown in colour (not black or white).
this not my way ..:angry3:
my way calling to all infidels’ I need tell him what I believe my way it is the truth..:smile:
I hate the (terrorists) them abuse on my religious..:angryfire:
So was that a quote from Jesus? If not, and it could not have been, then it would apply to Gentiles in the OT, sort of like a history of the Gentiles before Christ.
Now if you would like to have some more info on this sort of belief then check out what those who follow the Torah have to say about Christians and other Gentiles. You can actually see that belief being played out today in Israel today, the land where talking about the NT can get you tossed into jail.
So, can somebody come up with a quote from Jesus Christ that would confirm that statement, either side will do. Remember from Jesus, not from God because they are two different beings and God gave all authority to Jesus by about the year 30AD.
Lu:9:35:
And there came a voice out of the cloud,
saying,
This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Nothing really, that is how man divides men up, God separates them by language.
Who deals in human trafficiking even today, athesists and the Talmudic Jews. Did you ever study their lifestyle 100 or so years ago in Europe, between the two of them they controlled most of the prostitution and drug trade? Not that they used their own daughters, they used the daughters from other sections of society.
THE JEWS AND SLAVERY
Now for the atheists, is a 'Christian' who does not follow Christ's two (easy to understand) Laws a 'Christian' or an 'Atheist'?
Think it is not here today also, wrong.
(in part)
Jews and the White Slave Trade
by Dr. William Pierce
Steven Spielberg's pseudo-historical film about a 19th-century mutiny and massacre aboard a Spanish slave ship, Amistad, and the subsequent trial of the Black mutineers is being praised by the reviewers. Spielberg, one of the wealthiest and most successful of Hollywood's Jewish film makers, is also being praised by his kinsmen in various so-called "human rights" organizations for using his propaganda skills to sensitize White, Gentile audiences to the horrors of slavery and make them feel just a little more guilty for treating non-Whites so badly in the past. What the film doesn't mention, of course, is that Spielberg's Jewish kinsmen owned many, though not all, of the ships involved in the 18th- and 19th-century Atlantic trade in Black slaves and, in fact, played a very prominent role in bringing Black slaves to America. The film tends to steer one away from blaming anyone for slavery except White Gentiles. This bit of misdirection is interesting in light of the fact that Jews have been dominant in the slave trade since at least Roman times -- especially the trade in White slaves. Jewish slave dealers followed Caesar's armies everywhere -- into Gaul, into Germany, and into other northern lands -- eager to buy as slaves all of the captives of the Romans -- especially the female captives.
Jews have remained dominant in the White slave trade until the present day -- although during the Middle Ages the Christian Church tried unsuccessfully a number of times to stop them, beginning in the fifth century with an edict by the emperor Theodosius II against Jews owning Christian slaves. After being banned from owning or dealing in slaves by one emperor, the Jews would wait until the next emperor came along, then they would buy a charter giving them a monopoly in the slave trade. Then public outrage against the Jews would grow until another emperor would ban their slave-dealing again. Most of the time, however, the Jews were the undisputed masters of the White slave trade, and that is still the case today.
Interestingly enough, this fact was revealed in a recent news report in the Jewish newspaper the New York Times, of all places. The January 11 issue has a major article titled "Contraband Women" and written by a Jewish reporter in Israel. The article deals specifically with the Jewish trade in Ukrainian and Russian women -- although it doesn't label the trade as "Jewish." What the report does say is this:
Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital Kiev, the networks trafficking women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic coast and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in Moscow.
What the reader must understand is that these crime gangs don't have a real Russian in them. They are entirely Jewish, but the agreed-upon subterfuge used by the newspapers in this country is to refer to them as "Russian" rather than as Jewish. Thus one reads in various news organs about the recent takeover of organized crime in many areas of America -- especially the East Coast and Los Angeles -- by "Russian gangs" and of the viciousness and cleverness of these "Russian" gangsters, but there is never any mention of the fact that they are not Russians at all, but Jews from the former Soviet Union: Jews like Mr. Clinton's supporter Vadim Rabinovich, photographed shaking hands with Clinton at a Miami fundraiser when he was illegally in the United States, as I mentioned in my broadcast of December 27, 1997. Jews and the White Slave Trade -- Free Speech, February 1998
Do you always need somebody to do your 'homework' for you?
So science was able to do some CSI test that show Adam and Eve are not related, how very interesting.
Didn't somebody go around the world quite recently and do that very thing (DNA samples) that show we really are quite closely related (I wouldn't swear to this as it was a case of looking for true Jews)
There aren't any true picture of Jesus anywhere, there is a description given by His father though.
Isa:53:2: For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Didn't hollywood even use white people in the role of Africans back in the really early days of film-making?
Did you know that hanging a picture on your wall was the same as having an idol in your place?
you are eyes have problem
( ahmadabdalrhman )I say the god he kill them If he want ,, or kill any one he want because this life just for test then the god create them next time for the arithmetic
not my !!!
just the god
ok