Doctor jailed for raping unconscious wife

L Gilbert

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The main thing with cases like this, is that if you flip the roles around, the people coming in here saying, "aw, poor hubby, wonder what drove him to it?", likely would change their minds....

Wife drugs husband, inserts objects in his anus, takes pictures and pretends when he awakens that nothing happened.... but that's alright, it's his duty to provide her with sex. It couldn't possibly be construed as rape, right?

Give me a break.
Speak for yourself. IMO, aggressiveness isn't gender specific.
 

karrie

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good point.

another point which, in my opinion, is good, is that we can't know what happened and why because we werent there. There's also a good chance the judge doesnt know either.
That is another good point hermann. I cant recall off the top of my head if the article mentioned a sentence or not, but I'm willing to guess that a sentence in this case would reflect the fact that there is no 100% certainty.
 

karrie

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Speak for yourself. IMO, aggressiveness isn't gender specific.

I was being sarcastic, and it may not have come across right....

What I was trying to say is that the people who seem to think this is okay, would only say that in the view of the woman having not provided enough sex to man. There's a bias there, and if you switch the situation around, few people would say that a woman has a right to do this to a man, because it's a man's duty to provide his wife with sex.

i agree that aggressiveness is not gender specific. women are as capable of performing horrible acts. but that doesn't mean this man had some implied right to drug and rape his wife.
 

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I can't believe anyone would think it was ok to drug their wife and insert objects into her like that. That's disgusting.
 

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Well, I guess it takes all kinds to make up the human race, but I hate the thought of, some times, to be considered the same species, as some others, and I just don't undestand how a "husband" could ever do such a thing to his wife, (or vice versa).
 

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I was being sarcastic, and it may not have come across right....

What I was trying to say is that the people who seem to think this is okay, would only say that in the view of the woman having not provided enough sex to man. There's a bias there, and if you switch the situation around, few people would say that a woman has a right to do this to a man, because it's a man's duty to provide his wife with sex.

i agree that aggressiveness is not gender specific. women are as capable of performing horrible acts. but that doesn't mean this man had some implied right to drug and rape his wife.

Yeah, I understand what your saying, and it doesn't seem to work that way does it. If he's in the mood, fine, if she isn't, well, then, she isn't doing her duty. tsk tsk
But, in the case of a partner who "always" isn't in the mood, for the most silly reasons, and just
because they are "mentally" lazy or just "dull", then some help is needed for them, but if this is
the case with "this doctor", it still doesn't give him any permission to abuse his wife in any way
at all, and he deserves all he punishment they give him.

Seriously, eiher partner shouldn't feel the other has to do their "duty", having sex is a mutual
agreement, and it wouldn't take me long to lose interest in someone who, kept reminding me of "my duty"
to him.
 

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Well, I guess it takes all kinds to make up the human race, but I hate the thought of, some times, to be considered the same species, as some others, and I just don't undestand how a "husband" could ever do such a thing to his wife, (or vice versa).
Yeah, this is why I'm thinking of a hypothesis that there may be more than one branch of homosapiens in existence. There's been more than one branch in existence before.I think genetics will be the key to opening this door. (If it exists. :D )
 

Kreskin

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Yeah, this is why I'm thinking of a hypothesis that there may be more than one branch of homosapiens in existence. There's been more than one branch in existence before.I think genetics will be the key to opening this door. (If it exists. :D )
The Missing Link, perhaps?
 

karrie

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Yeah, I understand what your saying, and it doesn't seem to work that way does it. If he's in the mood, fine, if she isn't, well, then, she isn't doing her duty. tsk tsk
But, in the case of a partner who "always" isn't in the mood, for the most silly reasons, and just
because they are "mentally" lazy or just "dull", then some help is needed for them, but if this is
the case with "this doctor", it still doesn't give him any permission to abuse his wife in any way
at all, and he deserves all he punishment they give him.

Seriously, eiher partner shouldn't feel the other has to do their "duty", having sex is a mutual
agreement, and it wouldn't take me long to lose interest in someone who, kept reminding me of "my duty"
to him.

You're right. No partner should feel obligated, but in a healthy marriage, there should be good sex. If there is an issue, and sex is non existant, then counselling or a doctor's visit is in order, but rape is NOT.

And I agree totally with your last statement. If my husband was to EVER say that I'd best provide sex out of a sense of duty, I think he'd stop getting it altogether. Our partnership is key toour relationship, and that would ruin it completely.
 

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Yeah, I understand what your saying, and it doesn't seem to work that way does it. If he's in the mood, fine, if she isn't, well, then, she isn't doing her duty. tsk tsk
But, in the case of a partner who "always" isn't in the mood, for the most silly reasons, and just
because they are "mentally" lazy or just "dull", then some help is needed for them, but if this is
the case with "this doctor", it still doesn't give him any permission to abuse his wife in any way
at all, and he deserves all he punishment they give him.

Seriously, eiher partner shouldn't feel the other has to do their "duty", having sex is a mutual
agreement, and it wouldn't take me long to lose interest in someone who, kept reminding me of "my duty"
to him.

There are a variety of disorders where the afflicted through various symptoms have no desire for sex. Sexual aversion disorder is characterized by pateints who at the possibility of sexual contact have feelings of anxiety and the associated symptoms of anxiety, thus making them prone to avoid it alltogether. Then there are some disorders where the act itself is painfull (regardless of lubrication), others where contractile muscles involuntarilly become stimulated, making penetration in some cases just painfull and in other cases impossible. Theres quite a few of these disorders which also includes perversions as well, evident by what happened in this case.

I'm not at all saying she likely had any of these, nobody here can say one way or another what the couples history was like.
 

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You're right. No partner should feel obligated, but in a healthy marriage, there should be good sex. If there is an issue, and sex is non existant, then counselling or a doctor's visit is in order, but rape is NOT.

And I agree totally with your last statement. If my husband was to EVER say that I'd best provide sex out of a sense of duty, I think he'd stop getting it altogether. Our partnership is key toour relationship, and that would ruin it completely.


Agreed to this
 

Zzarchov

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Oh, so you meant to express pity for the doctor then.

Good to know. I always like to know which people in the forum sympathize with rapists.

No means to disrespect.


How can you not pity someone as pitiful as that? Something is seriously wrong with the doctor, and it is nothing if not pitiful how he behaved. That doesn't mean one has sympathy for the man, or thinks he shouldn't have been caught. Only what a shame it is that a human being with such obvious potential (he is a doctor) sank to such depths of worthlessness.
 

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There are a variety of disorders where the afflicted through various symptoms have no desire for sex. Sexual aversion disorder is characterized by pateints who at the possibility of sexual contact have feelings of anxiety and the associated symptoms of anxiety, thus making them prone to avoid it alltogether. Then there are some disorders where the act itself is painfull (regardless of lubrication), others where contractile muscles involuntarilly become stimulated, making penetration in some cases just painfull and in other cases impossible. Theres quite a few of these disorders which also includes perversions as well, evident by what happened in this case.

I'm not at all saying she likely had any of these, nobody here can say one way or another what the couples history was like.

Let's forget any problems of that nature she might have had, what about him, why the wine bottle,
what was wrong with his own equipment, and even if "that" was "working" he is still a "sickhead".
 

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I started to read this thread and was shocked ,first with the incident then with some comments about "wifes duties " in any marriage ceremonies I have heard of or witnessed they never included sex as duty ,would two people not enjoy the "act " or imitate moments if both were not willing able and wanting to ,It really is much better when both parties are in agreement and secondly rape used to be pushable by death in some areas of the world
  1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
  2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
  3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.
tr.v., raped, rap·ing, rapes.
  1. To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on.
  2. To seize and carry off by force.
  3. To plunder or pillage.
[Middle English, from rapen, to rape, from Old French raper, to abduct, from Latin rapere, to seize.]
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This article is about a form of sexual assault. For other uses, see Rape (disambiguation).
Rape is a form of assault involving the non-consensual use of the sexual organs of another person's body. The assailant can be of either sex, as can their target.
Rape is generally considered one of the most serious sex crimes and can be very difficult to prosecute. Consent may be absent due to duress arising from the use, or threat, of overwhelming force or violence, or because the subject is incapacitated in some way such as intoxication and/or underage innocence. In some cases coercion might also be used to negate consent.
There is no universally accepted distinction between rape and other forms of assault involving one or both participant's sexual organs. Some criminal codes explicitly consider all kinds of forced sexual activity to be rape, whereas in others only acts involving a coupled penis and vagina are included. Some restrict rape only to instances where a woman is forced by a man. Other assaults involving sexual organs in some way may then be grouped under the term sexual assault.
In some jurisdictions rape may also be committed by assailants using objects, rather than their own body parts, against the sexual organs of their target. In recent years, there have been more instances of men filing claims of rape against women assailants.
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[edit] Definitions of rape


The Rape of the Sabine Women, a 1582 sculpture by Giambologna.


The word rape originates from the Latin verb rapere: to seize or take by force. The word originally had no sexual connotation and is still used generically in English (see rape (word)). The history of rape, and the alterations of its meaning, is quite complex. The Latin term for the act of rape itself is raptus.
In most jurisdictions the crime of rape is defined to occur when sexual intercourse takes place (or is attempted) without valid consent of one of the parties involved. It is frequently defined as penetration of the anus or the vagina by a penis. In some jurisdictions the penetration need not be by penis but can be by other body parts (e.g. fingers) or by objects (e.g. bottles), or may involve the forcing of a vagina or anus onto a penis by a female.
Other jurisdictions expand the definition of rape to include other acts committed using the sexual organs of one or both of the parties, such as oral copulation and masturbation, for example, again enacted without valid consent.
The lack of valid consent does not necessarily mean that the victim explicitly refused to give consent. Generally, consent is considered invalid if it is obtained from someone who is:
  • Under any kind of duress (force, violence, blackmail, etc.)
  • Judgementally impaired or incapacitated by alcohol or drugs (legal or otherwise)
  • Mentally impaired whether by illness or developmental disability
  • Below the age of consent defined in that jurisdiction
Statutory rape refers to a sexual act that is considered rape by the law regardless of whether it was coercive or consensual. Such laws are common and exist in order to prevent adults from having sex with minors who are deemed legally unable to give effective informed consent.
Sexual activity involving a person below the age of consent is often known as statutory rape although some jurisdictions prefer terms such as "unlawful sexual intercourse" to avoid the forcible connotation of the word.
The Brazilian Penal Code defines rape as unconsensual vaginal sex. Therefore, unlike most of Europe and the Americas, male rape, anal rape, and oral rape are not considered to be rape crimes. Instead, such an act is a "violent attempt against someone's modesty" ("Atentado violento ao pudor"). The penalty, however, is the same


Definition: Marital rape is any unwanted sexual acts by a spouse or ex-spouse, committed without consent and/or against a person's will, obtained by force, or threat of force, intimidation, or when a person is unable to consent. These sexual acts include intercourse, anal or oral sex, forced sexual behavior with other individuals, and other sexual activities that are considered by the victim as degrading, humiliating, painful, and unwanted.

Also Known As: Spousal rape, wife rape
Common Misspellings: martial rape
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