Do You Love America?
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You know, go case for making people love America. Make personal assaults, however being smarter than you and the most of people who follow America blindly I will rise above stupidity.
You claim Free Speech;
You want free speech to do racist cartoons against Muslim people.
People like you however doesn't want free speech when it involves America and its war. You are Anti-American if you protest against the war or you question the U.S government.
I think it is hilarious when someone else has a different idea and celebrates September 11 in his way for Free Speech you criticize him.
People radical people who support Bush and this Ann idiot and radical Christianity must only want Free Speech when it is against Muslim people.
Also funny that this kind of radicalism is the same kind of attitude held against Jewish people before the Holocaust.
So because you know alot about the radical right, is anyone preparing concentration camps in America to put Muslim people who might not 'love' America until a final solution of them can be found.
Also, in America there is only 14% of women in the senate and congress. Other nations in the world and in the middle east have higher percentage of women; for example Afghanistan, Belarus, Turkmienistan and another Central Asian republic.
Also, people on the radical right call Muslim people savages for the way they have a death penalty for certain crimes. Well Britain had a death penalty for 250 crimes, and until America gets rid of the death penalty they are not much better.
Women weren't allowed to vote until 1916 earliest in Canada and upwards in Canada and in other Western Nations. Some Muslim Arab nations have the vote so European or American or even Canadian people don't have a case because they have only allowed women to vote recently as well.
Bush spends more and more money on Christian organizations when the American nation should be secular.
So as people claim about radical Islam they should look to themselves before they talk about radicalism because there are just as many radical Christian people in America and Europe and their voice is the loudest at this point in time.
John R. Hinde Professor : B. A., Hons. (Victoria), M. A. (Queen's), Ph. D (SUNY, Buffalo)
hindej@mala.bc.ca <hindej@mala.bc.ca>
Michael Tripp
Education: B.A. (University of California, Berkeley), M.A. (San Francisco State University), Ph.D. (University of Victoria)
Email: trippm@mala.bc.ca
Robert Graves:
Goodbye to All That
and read World Geogrpahy 3rd edition
hindej@mala.bc.ca <hindej@mala.bc.ca>
Michael Tripp
Education: B.A. (University of California, Berkeley), M.A. (San Francisco State University), Ph.D. (University of Victoria)
Email: trippm@mala.bc.ca
Robert Graves:
Goodbye to All That
and read World Geogrpahy 3rd edition
I think beaver is bizzare and sick in that, but under free speech total free speech he can do what he wants. He should have more respect but under free speech he can do what he wants.
I am getting after you for the Muslim aspect of your first link. Not Beaver I am only including him because of "Free speech".
I am getting after you for the Muslim aspect of your first link. Not Beaver I am only including him because of "Free speech".
Jersay said:
So can I.
Jersay said:
Well your going on about free speech and I don't see your correlation between that subject and the first post in this thread. Try articulating the post better, perhaps I'm missing something here, but the first article is about Muslims in America scaring the bejesus out of Americans from their lack of support for America and their support of the enemy.
Sorry, but your going to have to try again if you want an answer from me.
I'm starting to think Dead Beaver is the only one who read the article.
Do I love America?
First of all North America is the continent that contains Canada. In that respect, I love the part that is Canada. The people that founded both Canada and the U.S. were of similar backgrounds and both started with similar values and hopes for their country. Those similarities have since slipped to the point where a lot of Canadians are uncomfortable with the arrogance and aggressiveness of the "Americans. I love the idea that the U.S. started from but that idea is now just an idea.
First of all North America is the continent that contains Canada. In that respect, I love the part that is Canada. The people that founded both Canada and the U.S. were of similar backgrounds and both started with similar values and hopes for their country. Those similarities have since slipped to the point where a lot of Canadians are uncomfortable with the arrogance and aggressiveness of the "Americans. I love the idea that the U.S. started from but that idea is now just an idea.
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I think Britain should collectivly kneel down and thank America for saving your collective butts during WWII.
Blackleaf said:
I think Britain should collectivly kneel down and thank America for saving your collective butts during WWII.
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There was no need for you to post something like that. Just ignorant.
I.... Well... America...
I feel sorry for you in a sence. I wish America had a better streak. But because of all the invading, scamming and lies, I kinda lost most of my respect for America... It's a great country... But George Bush is destroying the proud country.
I say that I LIKE America.
I personally think that America should do something more then just invade the country and take it's oil. They should educate the people.
Good Luck America.
darkbeaver said:
There was no need for you to post something like that. Just ignorant.
I.... Well... America...
I feel sorry for you in a sence. I wish America had a better streak. But because of all the invading, scamming and lies, I kinda lost most of my respect for America... It's a great country... But George Bush is destroying the proud country.
I say that I LIKE America.
I personally think that America should do something more then just invade the country and take it's oil. They should educate the people.
Good Luck America.
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Seriously though, you guys arn't even getting enough oil to regenerate all the money that's been spent anyway.
EagleSmack said:
Seriously though, you guys arn't even getting enough oil to regenerate all the money that's been spent anyway.
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While I don't normally respond to critisism I will make an exception in your case ,firstly while the work in question may be crass and inflamitory it is in no way ignorant, secondly it is tame
compared to what happens on the fourth of july.
ProCanadian said:
While I don't normally respond to critisism I will make an exception in your case ,firstly while the work in question may be crass and inflamitory it is in no way ignorant, secondly it is tame
compared to what happens on the fourth of july.
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and most of thanks the people who really saved the world from the nazis-- THE RUSSIANS
that eastern FRONT was SOOO big--- you wouldnt know it though --from watching hollywood movies..
thank you russia
thank you for sacrificing 25 million of your sons and daughters
thank you russia -- i love you
EagleSmack said:
and most of thanks the people who really saved the world from the nazis-- THE RUSSIANS
that eastern FRONT was SOOO big--- you wouldnt know it though --from watching hollywood movies..
thank you russia
thank you for sacrificing 25 million of your sons and daughters
thank you russia -- i love you
Terrorist Training, American Style by Heather Wokusch
Insisting that global terrorism can only be stopped by "destroying it where it grows," George W. Bush has conveniently forgotten the US military's own terrorist training facility: the infamous Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC). Located in Fort Benning, Georgia, WHISC has trained over 60,000 Latin American soldiers in the most heinous of counter-insurgency warfare techniques, and its graduates have gone on to comprise a bloody who's who of coups, chaos and destruction.
WHISC is also the reason several non-violent protestors languish in US jails today, and with a massive demonstration planned at the WHISC site November 15-17, that number is about to skyrocket. Between the upcoming protest and a House bill aimed at shutting down the operation once and for all, it's clear America's very own terrorist training camp will soon be in the spotlight. Less certain is whether the result will be a brutal chapter of our history closed, or a deadly double standard expanded.
Established by the US military in Panama in 1946, WHISC(or School of the Americas/SOA, as it was previously known) was booted out and forced to relocate stateside in 1984. Its graduates have repeatedly been implicated in cases of torture, rape, massacre and assassination, their victims frequently social rights activists and other civilians. Small wonder that former Panamanian President Jorge Illueca described the school as the "biggest base for destabilization in Latin America."
Bowing to public pressure back home, in 1996 the Pentagon released several of the school's training manuals, detailing a curriculum advocating the use of blackmail, psychological warfare, torture and execution. By 2000, the appalling degree of human rights abuses committed by SOA graduates prompted several in the House of Representatives to try closing the school, but just before the key congressional vote, SOA personnel presented the Department of Defense with a compromise: "Some of your bosses have told us that they can't support anything with the name 'School of the Americas' on it. Our proposal addresses this concern. It changes the name." And with that SOA was closed, WHISC was duly opened, and in spite of a few cosmetic additions to the curriculum, America's terrorist training camp continued business as usual.
The farcical charade doesn't get very far with Fr. Roy Bourgeois, founder of School of the Americas Watch. One of the remarkable priests whose untiring social activism is detailed in Strabala & Palacek's "Prophets Without Honor," Bourgeois sees the Latin American military's role as keeping "the poor on edge and the small elite in power. The School of Americas is connected to that." Bourgeois has done repeated stints in US prisons due to criminal trespass, or "crossing the line" into Fort Benning - but he isn't alone. Of the 10,000 who peacefully protested at WHISC last November, a full 36 were given sentences of up to six months in federal prison, and it's anyone's guess how many new US political prisoners will result from the upcoming protest.
A bipartisan effort to shut down WHISC was narrowly defeated in the House last year, but a similar bill (HR 1810) has been reintroduced by Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA). HR 1810 already has 112 sponsors, and if passed would not only close the school but also establish a joint congressional task force "to conduct an assessment of the kind of education and training that is appropriate for the Department of Defense to provide to military personnel of Latin American nations."
Which is probably why the Bush administration is pushing through plans to set up a successor to WHISC in Costa Rica. With billions in US military aid funneled to dirty wars throughout Latin America, local fighters are needed to carry out Washington's agenda, and their training cannot hinge on such niceties as law or public opposition. Case in point: Colombia has received military equipment and a $1.3 billion aid package- not to mention over 250 US military personnel on the ground - to help the government fight against what it calls counter-insurgents (frequently peasants or community leaders such as educators, union organizers and religious workers). Add to that a full 10,000 Colombian WHISC/SOA graduates and plans to set up WHISC-oriented training locally, and it's clear the US is not only inviting mission creep, but more importantly entering a bloody and unethical quagmire.
The choice is ours: pay lip-service to fighting global terrorism as we secretly conduct terrorist training on the side, or confront this beast wherever it grows, both abroad and at home.
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Insisting that global terrorism can only be stopped by "destroying it where it grows," George W. Bush has conveniently forgotten the US military's own terrorist training facility: the infamous Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC). Located in Fort Benning, Georgia, WHISC has trained over 60,000 Latin American soldiers in the most heinous of counter-insurgency warfare techniques, and its graduates have gone on to comprise a bloody who's who of coups, chaos and destruction.
WHISC is also the reason several non-violent protestors languish in US jails today, and with a massive demonstration planned at the WHISC site November 15-17, that number is about to skyrocket. Between the upcoming protest and a House bill aimed at shutting down the operation once and for all, it's clear America's very own terrorist training camp will soon be in the spotlight. Less certain is whether the result will be a brutal chapter of our history closed, or a deadly double standard expanded.
Established by the US military in Panama in 1946, WHISC(or School of the Americas/SOA, as it was previously known) was booted out and forced to relocate stateside in 1984. Its graduates have repeatedly been implicated in cases of torture, rape, massacre and assassination, their victims frequently social rights activists and other civilians. Small wonder that former Panamanian President Jorge Illueca described the school as the "biggest base for destabilization in Latin America."
Bowing to public pressure back home, in 1996 the Pentagon released several of the school's training manuals, detailing a curriculum advocating the use of blackmail, psychological warfare, torture and execution. By 2000, the appalling degree of human rights abuses committed by SOA graduates prompted several in the House of Representatives to try closing the school, but just before the key congressional vote, SOA personnel presented the Department of Defense with a compromise: "Some of your bosses have told us that they can't support anything with the name 'School of the Americas' on it. Our proposal addresses this concern. It changes the name." And with that SOA was closed, WHISC was duly opened, and in spite of a few cosmetic additions to the curriculum, America's terrorist training camp continued business as usual.
The farcical charade doesn't get very far with Fr. Roy Bourgeois, founder of School of the Americas Watch. One of the remarkable priests whose untiring social activism is detailed in Strabala & Palacek's "Prophets Without Honor," Bourgeois sees the Latin American military's role as keeping "the poor on edge and the small elite in power. The School of Americas is connected to that." Bourgeois has done repeated stints in US prisons due to criminal trespass, or "crossing the line" into Fort Benning - but he isn't alone. Of the 10,000 who peacefully protested at WHISC last November, a full 36 were given sentences of up to six months in federal prison, and it's anyone's guess how many new US political prisoners will result from the upcoming protest.
A bipartisan effort to shut down WHISC was narrowly defeated in the House last year, but a similar bill (HR 1810) has been reintroduced by Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA). HR 1810 already has 112 sponsors, and if passed would not only close the school but also establish a joint congressional task force "to conduct an assessment of the kind of education and training that is appropriate for the Department of Defense to provide to military personnel of Latin American nations."
Which is probably why the Bush administration is pushing through plans to set up a successor to WHISC in Costa Rica. With billions in US military aid funneled to dirty wars throughout Latin America, local fighters are needed to carry out Washington's agenda, and their training cannot hinge on such niceties as law or public opposition. Case in point: Colombia has received military equipment and a $1.3 billion aid package- not to mention over 250 US military personnel on the ground - to help the government fight against what it calls counter-insurgents (frequently peasants or community leaders such as educators, union organizers and religious workers). Add to that a full 10,000 Colombian WHISC/SOA graduates and plans to set up WHISC-oriented training locally, and it's clear the US is not only inviting mission creep, but more importantly entering a bloody and unethical quagmire.
The choice is ours: pay lip-service to fighting global terrorism as we secretly conduct terrorist training on the side, or confront this beast wherever it grows, both abroad and at home.
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I do not have a heck of a lot against the United States of America; I have criticisms of their form of Government (just as they do of ours), I have criticisms of the current administration (as they do of our Cabinet {or perhaps, more accurately, the previous Cabinet}), and there are certain disagreements over matters of domestic and bilateral concern.
There always will be, there is no need to declare war over them.
All-in-all, I think Americans are nice people, with their hearts in the right place.
There always will be, there is no need to declare war over them.
All-in-all, I think Americans are nice people, with their hearts in the right place.