Divination

[herald]

An abominable practice.I Sam 15:23.
All who practiced it, abominable. Deut 18:12.

PRACTICED BY:

Diviners. Deut 18:14
Enchanters. Deut 18:10;Jer 27:9.
Witches. Ex 22:18;Deut 18:10.
Charmers. Deut 18:11.
Wizards. Deut 18:11;1 Sam 28:3.
Consolters of familiar spirits. Deut 18:11.
Magicians. Gen 41:8;Dan 4:7.
Astrologers. Is 47:13;Dan 4:7.
Sorcerers. Jer 27:9;Acts 13:6,8.
Necromancers. Deut 18:11.
Soothsayers. Is 2:6;Dan 2:27.
False prophets. Jer 14:14;Ezek 13:6.

EFFECTED THROUGH:

Enchantments. Ex 7:11;Num 24:1.
Sorcery. Is 47:12;Acts 8:11.
Observing times. 2 Kin 21:6.
Observing heavenly bodies. Is 37:13.
Inspecting the insides of beasts. Ezek 21:21.
The flight of arrows. Ezek 21:21,22.
Cups. Gen 44:2,5..
Rods. Hos 4:12.
Dreams. Jer29:8;Zech 10:2.
Connected with idolatry. 2 Chr 33:5,6.
Books of numerous and expensive. Acts 19:19
A lucrative employment. Num 22:7;Acts 16:16.


THOSE WHO PRACTICED:

Regarded as wise men. Dan 2:12,27.
Regarded with awe. Acts 8:9,11.
Consulted in difficulties. Dan 2;2;4:6,7.
Used mysterious words and gestures. Is 8:19.
A system of fraud. Ezek 13:6,7;Jer 29:8.
Frustrated by God. Is 44:25.
Could not injure God's people. Num 23:23.


THE LAW:

Forbade the Israelites to practice of. Lev 19:26;Deut 18:10,11.
Forbade seeking to. Lev 19:31;Deut 18:14.
Punished with death those who used. Ex 22:18;Lev 20:27.
Punished those who sought to. Lev 20:6.
The Jews prone to. 2 Kin 17:17;Is 2:6.

(Courtesy of Dr. John MacArthur's Study Bible).

I have cast out demons from witches by the power of the Holy Spirit within me.

 

[lone wolf]

How about detecting magnetic fields around underground streams and aquifers?

 

[karrie]

I guess I'll be in trouble, because I, am divine.

 

[lone wolf]

I guess I'll be in trouble, because I, am divine.

So is my dad and my daughter. Never tried it myself - but my ankles ache like crazy whenever I walk over that stream they both witched, devined, doused (whichever the tag) across my lot....

 

[gerryh]

No LW......Karrie is DEVINE......not that she CAN DEVINE.

 

[lone wolf]

No LW......Karrie is DEVINE......not that she CAN DEVINE.

Amazing how two li'l letters can change the whole scope of a sentence....:lol:

 

[herald]

If you are already involved in these things, you are judged, and found to be unfaithful to the Scriptures.

 

[TenPenny]

Meet me at the corner of Hollywood and Devine.

 

[lone wolf]

If you are already involved in these things, you are judged, and found to be unfaithful to the Scriptures.

That's not what He told me....

 

[ironsides]

A powerful message accompanied by the wonderful voice of Andre Boccelli! Enjoy!
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[FiveParadox]

It is not for you to say, herald, that someone “is judged” (unless, of course, you believe that you have some sort of special authority to represent God and the judgements that are, by the word of the Holy Bible, His alone). I suggest that there are many who reach a higher understanding of their Christian faith (or at the very least, a heightened understanding of their relationship with God) through such practices as divination, amongst others. It is not necessary to understand these practices, but only to understand that each person walks their own path with God, and that it is up to Him to judge whether each person has met their religious obligations.

 

[Cliffy]

But herald sits at the left hand of Gawd. He knows Gawd's mind and he knows we are all damned if we do and damned if we don't. Herald has spoken. Let all who do not head his words fall down and laugh their petooties off. Herald, take a Valium, you are frightening the guppies.

 

[ThomasJoseph]

Interesting you mention it so lightly.
What is divination and sorcery. and what makes it so bad.
Hence that fact. It is real.

My question to you, in complete shadow, where is the lines drawn. I've compelled myself to believe I've erected divine outcomes. But what separates blessings from sins.

To alter the events as we know them?
to speak with the animals?
to commune with the Lord?

I need to know where my sins lie so that I may not question my own guilt.

 

[Cliffy]

Interesting you mention it so lightly.
What is divination and sorcery. and what makes it so bad.
Hence that fact. It is real.

My question to you, in complete shadow, where is the lines drawn. I've compelled myself to believe I've erected divine outcomes. But what separates blessings from sins.

To alter the events as we know them?
to speak with the animals?
to commune with the Lord?

I need to know where my sins lie so that I may not question my own guilt.

Anybody who owns a pet talks to their animals. There is no sin there. The only sin is the sin of self hatred and guilt is a form of self hatred. If we were created in the image of god, then we are divine beings. Not owning up to your own divinity is to deny your god created you. That in itself seems to equate to slapping your god in the face.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

An abominable practice.

Not really. It's just stupid, because it provably doesn't work.

 

[Said1]

if you are already involved in these things, you are judged, and found to be unfaithful to the scriptures.

lolz.

I will consult my cards just to be sure, though!

 

[Cliffy]

I imagine herald as wearing a large hooded black robe and walking the streets carrying a large scythe, chanting, "Doom! All ye heathens are Doomed!"

Poor bugger. What a dismal life.

 

[herald]

If you do not obey the Scriptures, you will be doomed in the lake of fire.

 

[ThomasJoseph]

The bible promises no such death.
But if you believe in the apocalyptic explosion of lava and are alive fro the occasion, well it will be a quick yet very painful death.

I meant communicating with your animals, not talking at them.

And Cliffy yet again you spew random comments. I never said I wasn't a divine creation of the lord, whom I'm coming to understand you don't believe in at all.

NOTE: The bible does not say we are identical to the Lord. It states we are IN his image. What God are you praising or blaspheming?

 

[Cliffy]

If you do not obey the Scriptures, you will be doomed in the lake of fire.

Right on cue there herald. Doooooom!

The bible promises no such death.
But if you believe in the apocalyptic explosion of lava and are alive fro the occasion, well it will be a quick yet very painful death.

I meant communicating with your animals, not talking at them.

And Cliffy yet again you spew random comments. I never said I wasn't a divine creation of the lord, whom I'm coming to understand you don't believe in at all.

NOTE: The bible does not say we are identical to the Lord. It states we are IN his image. What God are you praising or blaspheming?

I do not praise or blaspheme any gods. The gods are all dead. The creator, on the other hand, does live but is indifferent to what you believe. If you are stuck in your belief in a ancient book of fiction you are not living your life to its full potential. If you are avoiding doing things in this life because you are afraid of offending some mythical being, you are avoiding life. That is not why you are here.