Despite Trump's scaremongering, socialism is gaining a foothold in America

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Despite Trump's scaremongering, socialism is gaining a foothold in America



Caitlin Brady speaks of socialism as though it's the only rational response to 21st-century America.

"I work full time, I work 40 hours a week, and I qualify for food stamps," the 31-year-old said, explaining why she volunteered for the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) campaign in Chicago's municipal elections last month.

To get food stamps in Illinois means Brady makes no more than $1,670 US a month. She pays no income tax on that — but neither did tech behemoth Amazon pay tax on the reported $10.8 billion it made last year.

"The richest country in the history of the world," Brady said, "and I'm not able to put a roof over my head and eat."

Like many toiling in the trenches of the DSA campaign, Brady is a millennial. Born between the early 1980s and 2000, theirs is the biggest generation since the baby boom and the most likely to think the American Dream — success equals prosperity — is dead.

Chicago is a historically big "D" Democratic city, and for years it has operated a bit like a one-party state. Republicans don't figure much in its politics. Political offices are sometimes passed between generations of the same Democratic families.

But in recent years, the socialists have spotted weaknesses on the Democrats' left flank: unaffordable urban housing and unkept promises of rent control. They struck, painting the Democrats as sellouts to big real estate developers.

On election night, the media clucked and fussed over Democrat Lori Lightfoot, the openly gay black woman chosen to replace Chicago's unbeloved Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

But underneath that headline was the news that the socialists running for a handful of city council seats had won them all. Granted, that's only four. But it means they now have six spots out of 50 in the government of the third-largest metropolis in the country — socialism's biggest victory in modern American history.

There are varieties of socialism around the world, but in the American context, it is fundamentally about ensuring that the health and welfare of the people does not depend on the incentives of capitalism.

"People over profits" was a popular rallying cry among Chicago's DSA. But the DSA did not insist that workers should control the means of production and promise to take over Amazon. They ran on affordable housing, universal health care and returning government to the people.

'It's back'

The results in Chicago were preceded by a tsunami of speculation about the resurrection of the American left— why and where in the land it might or might not pop up.

In March, New York magazine churned out several thousand words trying to answer its own question: When did everyone become a socialist? On the right, The Weekly Standard (just before it folded in December) took aim at what it called "the illusory dream of democratic socialism" in a piece called "Up from the Grave," which began: "It's back."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/despi...sm-is-gaining-a-foothold-in-america-1.5118810

Wonderful, a country of lazy welfare grabbing basement dwellers wanting free handouts.

Maybe they need to get off the couch, loose some weight and get a real job.
 

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Trump's the biggest freeloader in America, that is why so many people want socialism. Capitalism is on the way out because it breeds greed, environmental destruction and stupid sheeple who like having a big red, white and blue dick shoved up their asses.
 

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Trump's the biggest freeloader in America, that is why so many people want socialism. Capitalism is on the way out because it breeds greed, environmental destruction and stupid sheeple who like having a big red, white and blue dick shoved up their asses.
Capitalism provides you with the computer you use to communicate, it provided you with the helicopter that saved your live and allows you the freedom to promote the sh-t you peddle .
 

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Capitalism provides you with the computer you use to communicate, it provided you with the helicopter that saved your live and allows you the freedom to promote the sh-t you peddle .
Well, no, but it was a nice summary of MAGAhat "thinking."
 

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Why would any Yanks want their country to become like Venezuela?
 

pgs

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Well, no, but it was a nice summary of MAGAhat "thinking."
Well yes . Nothing to do with Maga thinking . Apple , Microsoft, Sikorsky, Bell , Yes your government via it’s military created the internet but capitalist companies brought it to the public and provide the vessel ( computer ) . The same can be said about helicopters and government procurement .

With respect to his freedom I may be stretching a little . But it is still somewhat true as freedom of speech is not protected worldwide .
 

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Well yes . Nothing to do with Maga thinking . Apple , Microsoft, Sikorsky, Bell , Yes your government via it’s military created the internet but capitalist companies brought it to the public and provide the vessel ( computer ) . The same can be said about helicopters and government procurement .
I'm not going to argue your religion with you.

With respect to his freedom I may be stretching a little . But it is still somewhat true as freedom of speech is not protected worldwide .
You clearly can't tell the difference between political and economic systems, so there's little point.

But the funny part is that you think Cliffy's freedom of speech exists in a country that most MAGAhats have written off as hopelessly "socialist."
 

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I'm not going to argue your religion with you.


You clearly can't tell the difference between political and economic systems, so there's little point.

But the funny part is that you think Cliffy's freedom of speech exists in a country that most MAGAhats have written off as hopelessly "socialist."
Canad is still primarily a capitalist country . Even though our constitution is not the same as yours we believe in the rule of law .
 

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I'm not going to argue your religion with you.


You clearly can't tell the difference between political and economic systems, so there's little point.

But the funny part is that you think Cliffy's freedom of speech exists in a country that most MAGAhats have written off as hopelessly "socialist."
they also believe Hitler was a socialist - so ya...
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Canad is still primarily a capitalist country . Even though our constitution is not the same as yours we believe in the rule of law .
Thank you for illustrating my point. The word "socialist" in the mouth of a tighty righty in the 21st century has no meaning.
 

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Well yes . Nothing to do with Maga thinking . Apple , Microsoft, Sikorsky, Bell , Yes your government via it’s military created the internet but capitalist companies brought it to the public and provide the vessel....

You mean those same capitalist companies that are in communist China bigly?
 

pgs

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Thank you for illustrating my point. The word "socialist" in the mouth of a tighty righty in the 21st century has no meaning.
I happen to completely understand socialism , and no matter how you put words in my mouth and take my thoughts out of context will change that .
I will pretend to work if you pretend to pay me .
 

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Despite Trump's scaremongering, socialism is gaining a foothold in America



Caitlin Brady speaks of socialism as though it's the only rational response to 21st-century America.

"I work full time, I work 40 hours a week, and I qualify for food stamps," the 31-year-old said, explaining why she volunteered for the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) campaign in Chicago's municipal elections last month.

To get food stamps in Illinois means Brady makes no more than $1,670 US a month. She pays no income tax on that — but neither did tech behemoth Amazon pay tax on the reported $10.8 billion it made last year.

"The richest country in the history of the world," Brady said, "and I'm not able to put a roof over my head and eat."

Like many toiling in the trenches of the DSA campaign, Brady is a millennial. Born between the early 1980s and 2000, theirs is the biggest generation since the baby boom and the most likely to think the American Dream — success equals prosperity — is dead.

Chicago is a historically big "D" Democratic city, and for years it has operated a bit like a one-party state. Republicans don't figure much in its politics. Political offices are sometimes passed between generations of the same Democratic families.

But in recent years, the socialists have spotted weaknesses on the Democrats' left flank: unaffordable urban housing and unkept promises of rent control. They struck, painting the Democrats as sellouts to big real estate developers.

On election night, the media clucked and fussed over Democrat Lori Lightfoot, the openly gay black woman chosen to replace Chicago's unbeloved Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

But underneath that headline was the news that the socialists running for a handful of city council seats had won them all. Granted, that's only four. But it means they now have six spots out of 50 in the government of the third-largest metropolis in the country — socialism's biggest victory in modern American history.

There are varieties of socialism around the world, but in the American context, it is fundamentally about ensuring that the health and welfare of the people does not depend on the incentives of capitalism.

"People over profits" was a popular rallying cry among Chicago's DSA. But the DSA did not insist that workers should control the means of production and promise to take over Amazon. They ran on affordable housing, universal health care and returning government to the people.

'It's back'

The results in Chicago were preceded by a tsunami of speculation about the resurrection of the American left— why and where in the land it might or might not pop up.

In March, New York magazine churned out several thousand words trying to answer its own question: When did everyone become a socialist? On the right, The Weekly Standard (just before it folded in December) took aim at what it called "the illusory dream of democratic socialism" in a piece called "Up from the Grave," which began: "It's back."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/despi...sm-is-gaining-a-foothold-in-america-1.5118810

Wonderful, a country of lazy welfare grabbing basement dwellers wanting free handouts.

Maybe they need to get off the couch, loose some weight and get a real job.
Anything 1mm to the Left of the Nazis is considered radical socialism to the GOP Neanderthals.
 

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Socialism is just away for the elites to centralize control of resources without paying for them, and also they can leave their debts on the peeps too.
;)
the perfect scam.

...and then there are the Cliffies of the world...for now.

It is probably fair to say, then, that Mao was responsible for about 1.5 million deaths during the Cultural Revolution, another million for the other campaigns, and between 35 million and 45 million for the Great Leap Famine. Taking a middle number for the famine, 40 million, that’s about 42.5 million deaths.

According to Chang, Mao was responsible for 70 million deaths in peacetime—“more than any other twentieth-century leader.”
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/02/05/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao/


IMHO, it isn't cow farts we have a problem with.
;)
It's beatch farts. So therefor, guess who has to go...
 
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