Designer BABIES !!!

[Curiosity]

Ah Hermann.......... I am sorry I forgot you wrote you had it....

Making new children never stopped my mother and father, nor has it stopped my sisters and brother from reproduction of so many children we could start our own city!!!

Not one of my sisters nor I have the disease and we always test for it.....my brother hasn't developed it....Of all the rest of the clan - nobody has developed it - perhaps their spouses have added a goodly
mix of resistance or whatever...... but were my mother alive today she would be pleased to know what a healthy bunch she was responsible for regardless.... (except for the diva sisters but there is no cure for that either haha)....

 

[tracy]

Tracy you wrote:



Who said anything about giving genetic disorders on purpose? Where is the post located?

It's in the first post, the original article. A few fertility clinics will purposefully only implant embryos with genetic conditions like dwarfism and deafness.

 

[tracy]

maybe it's irresponsible of me to reproduce, since i might pass on my type I diabetes? or maybe i should have had my babies screened for it?

I used to think i should never have babies for the very same reason.

Diabetes is a liveable condition. Apples and oranges. I'll link you to some conditions I would screen out if I had the option.

 

[L Gilbert]

prognoses look good on paper. the reality is you have to stab yourself with a needle four times a day, resulting in giant obscene lumps of scar tissue all over you, and suffer the indignity of collapsing in public every now and then and waking up having bitten your tongue to shreds and pissed yourself. Then when you get older your eyes get mashed up your liver and kidneys start to fail and your feet start to rot from lack of circulation and then you die of a heart attack at about 55-60

It's only twice a day for my mother and the dood next door. (Half hour before breaky and a half hour before supper). As I said the dood next door has feet problems but he's 90 something, and my mother is 86 (she does have pulmonary problems but they are not diabetes related). The thing behind getting scar tissue lumps is that one should vary the position of the puncture. tops of thighs, tummy, hips, abdomen, buns, sides of thighs, biceps are good spots.

 

[Curiosity]

Hermann

Nosy question but are you still having regular doctor checkups....I think you just moved and perhaps you have been putting off the visit but you may need to change insulin quantities, or alter your diet intake or something else....to ease the changes you automatically experience as you get older.... and your habits change....

You have to keep on that little [correction] BIG booger of a disease because it can play hell with your body if you don't watch it like a hawk.....

Please do yourself a good turn and find an aggressive doc who will nag you a bit eh?

 

[hermanntrude]

It's only twice a day for my mother and the dood next door. (Half hour before breaky and a half hour before supper). As I said the dood next door has feet problems but he's 90 something, and my mother is 86 (she does have pulmonary problems but they are not diabetes related). The thing behind getting scar tissue lumps is that one should vary the position of the puncture. tops of thighs, tummy, hips, abdomen, buns, sides of thighs, biceps are good spots.

I'm easily offended when it comes to my diabetes. I'm toning this post down accordingly:

I am very much aware of the ways that doctors tell diabetics to prevent scar tissue. However I have lumps of scar tissue on my body and I hate them very much.

 

[hermanntrude]

Hermann

Nosy question but are you still having regular doctor checkups....I think you just moved and perhaps you have been putting off the visit but you may need to change insulin quantities, or alter your diet intake or something else....to ease the changes you automatically experience as you get older.... and your habits change....

You have to keep on that little [correction] BIG booger of a disease because it can play hell with your body if you don't watch it like a hawk.....

Please do yourself a good turn and find an aggressive doc who will nag you a bit eh?

I am working on finding a good doctor and I'm also pretty good at looking after my own diabetes. The problem with doctors is they tend to have a few years training but very few of them have actually tried living the regimes they happily dole out. Having said that they're a good source of new info and free insulin.

 

[hermanntrude]

anyway. hijack over, i am aware that to pass on my diabetes may cause some level of discomfort/pain/distress to my child. admittedly nowhere near as much as having its skin fall off or being allergic to sunlight or something. My point is that until we understand exactly where the line is, this kind of screening should not be allowed

 

[L Gilbert]

I'm easily offended when it comes to my diabetes. I'm toning this post down accordingly:

I am very much aware of the ways that doctors tell diabetics to prevent scar tissue. However I have lumps of scar tissue on my body and I hate them very much.

I can see that. And I find it pretty understandable. I like you lumps and all. I'm sure the rest here do, too.

 

[karrie]

If you view life as having starting when an egg has been fertilized, you wouldn't do in vitro anyways.

I'm not talking about parents trying to avoid having a child with diabetes or something, I'm talking about seriously debilitating and sometimes fatal conditions.

I don't see nobility in knowingly risking creating a child who will suffer from a terrible genetic condition that could have been avoided.

All I'm saying is that for me, the option of picking just isn't there, for personal reasons, I just couldn't do it. I'd end up not having children at all rather than having to face picking and choosing. But that's just me. That's why I think the new possibilities are so great. While I know there are a lot of people out there who don't agree with GM, the way I see it, being able to use it to heal those children who are born with those debilitating conditions, is preferable to using screening ahead of time to eliminate them. Or, rather, it's a good option for those who don't like the other options currently available.

 

[L Gilbert]

I am working on finding a good doctor and I'm also pretty good at looking after my own diabetes. The problem with doctors is they tend to have a few years training but very few of them have actually tried living the regimes they happily dole out. Having said that they're a good source of new info and free insulin.

Nurses trained in aspects of diabetes are usually much much better than doctors. There are two diabetes nurses here in Nelson. Want one? I might be able to talk one into moving to Edmonchuk.

 

[hermanntrude]

I can see that. And I find it pretty understandable. I like you lumps and all. I'm sure the rest here do, too.

thank you for your kind words. I'm aware that my opinion of the lumps is the strongest i'll find. Most people either dont see them or don't care. But i find them revolting.

 

[hermanntrude]

Nurses trained in aspects of diabetes are usually much much better than doctors. There are two diabetes nurses here in Nelson. Want one? I might be able to talk one into moving to Edmonchuk.

lol since when did u find the power to make nurses do what u want?

 

[Curiosity]

Hermann

Please find a doc you like....maybe one who has a family history of it...the local diabetes people should be a good referral source of docs who are familiar with it.

Scar tissue? Bumps? Battle wounds my man! Many people could not survive a bad case of this terrible disease....the ones who live with it.....should have medals.

 

[L Gilbert]

lol since when did u find the power to make nurses do what u want?

I did say maybe talk one into it, I didn't say make one move. lol

 

[hermanntrude]

lol if u can talk a nurse into doing anything then you're a lucky man

 

[L Gilbert]

Actually, you could probably ask at hospital if they know of diabetes programs in the city.

 

[hermanntrude]

don't worry i'm working on it. I'd like to get back to the OP

 

[L Gilbert]

lol if u can talk a nurse into doing anything then you're a lucky man

Well, the ones around here are pretty accomodating as far as making a patient comfortable. I blew out a rotator cuff a few years ago, I have no complaints about nurses. I've had a couple chats with my mother's nurses and both are pretty good people.

 

[karrie]

My point is that until we understand exactly where the line is, this kind of screening should not be allowed

once your child is born, if it ever becomes possible, would you take them for gene therapy to help keep them from developing diabetes?