Democratically Elected President Is Ousted By Fascists In Honduras

CDNBear

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Yeah right. Like most paranoids you reserve the right to call names for yourself but can't take it when the names comes back.
Again, I'm not calling you out for calling me names, I'm calling you out for crying about name calling, when you've spent two hours doing it yourself.

Suck it up sweety - you dug yourself into the pitt and you're now stuck in your schitt.
Still waiting.
 

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As for Cannuck he got what he wanted....

Then you obviously got confused with what it is that I want. Let me refresh your memory. I would like you to provide evidence that the Honduran Congress is controlled by fascists.

So far nothing you have posted comes anywhere close to this.
 

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I wrote that he was deposed by fascists, not that their Congress is controlled by Fascists. Now look at the link I provided which proved that two of the generals who deposed him are associated with the fascists school of Americas. Had you read my posts you would know that by now.

After all, Democrats don't depose leaders, especially if they are leftists do they? :)
 

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If you have to play word games in some futile attempt to backpedal to a point where your words make sense, by all means go for it. I doubt you have fooled anybody. We all know the generals didn't depose him, the congress did....well, maybe we don't all know. Everybody but you knows the generals didn't depose him, the congress did.
 

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If you have to play word games in some futile attempt to backpedal to a point where your words make sense, by all means go for it. I doubt you have fooled anybody. We all know the generals didn't depose him, the congress did....well, maybe we don't all know. Everybody but you knows the generals didn't depose him, the congress did.
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Well said Cannuck.
 

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I wrote that he was deposed by fascists, not that their Congress is controlled by Fascists. Now look at the link I provided which proved that two of the generals who deposed him are associated with the fascists school of Americas. Had you read my posts you would know that by now.

After all, Democrats don't depose leaders, especially if they are leftists do they? :)


There is not much political difference between either the deposed President or who replaced him. He was thrown out by the Congress for trying to become another King for life type leader. Congress removed him with the support of the people. The military only carried out the orders of Congress and their Supreme Court. Neither one is a democrat.
 

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This issue is complex.

Honduras's constitution does not allow Presidents to run for re-election. According to the constitution, this mechanism can't be changed by any means. Zelaya's referendum sought a mandate to hold a national constitution assembly to rewrite the constitution. The obvious purpose was to change the constitution so that he could sek re-election.

Honduras's congress, courts and military have a legal obligation to uphold the constitution. They saw Zelaya's referendum as a violation of the constitution and all three supported the coup.

As a result, I'd have to say the coup was legal. At the same time, the new government has no mandate. As a result, they should be considered a "caretaker" government and should not be legally recognized by anyone until Honduras elects new leaders in free and fair elections.
 
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CDNBear

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This issue is complex.

Honduras's constitution does not allow Presidents to run for re-election. According to the constitution, this mechanism can't be changed by any means. Zelaya's referendum sought a mandate to hold a national constitution assembly to rewrite the constitution. The obvious purpose was to change the constitution so that he could sek re-election.

Honduras's congress, courts and military have a legal obligation to uphold the constitution. They saw Zelaya's referendum as a violation of the constitution and all three supported the coup.

As a result, I'd have to say the coup was legal. At the same time, the new government has no mandate. As a result, they should be considered a "caretaker" government and should not be legally recognized by anyone until Honduras elects new leaders in free and fair elections.
 

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The House Committee approved of impeachment procedure and he resigned rather than go through the formalities. But he was not forced out, he simply refused to fight the way Clinton did.

If Honduras was a true democracy, it would not have staged a coup. It could have allowed the vote to go on and if approved, amend its constitution. Otherwise, a new president could have been elected in six months.

Now let me ask you this: if a right winger had majority support and was toppled in a coup, how many of this forum's many right wingers would try to justify the coup?


Um, no it wouldn't. You can't vote away peoples rights.

No one said Zaleya couldn't usher in a new era of socalism. No one said the country couldn't be run by socialists for the next hundred years, or hell, all time.

It said Zaleya can run once, and then when he is done someone else in his party can run. How exactly is Zaleya gonna run the country if he is the only competant person in his entire political ideology in the country? Why exactly does he need to run over and over again? If he is the only person who run Honduras as a socialist nation what happens if he has a heart attack? Does socialism fade away in the country? IF the army had shot him would socialism have died because with him gone NO ONE in the country could run it as a socialism?

This isn't about socialism, its about dictatorship. Socialism decrees Zaleya should stand down and let other parts of the socialist leadership contribute. Socialism means all of Society contributes, not one man.

He's a dictator in training, the impeachment went so smooth because the socialists don't support him.