Defeated Harper supporters call for independent “Republic of Western Canada”
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"East is East
And West is West
And never the twain shall meet"
I think it would be great if Canada were divided into Canada East and Canada West, the border right between Ontario and Manitoba.
I have lived in both the east and the west and it is like night and day.
The west is friendlier, more relaxed and laid back and just as prosperous in their own right as the east. If I had the choice I would still be in Saskatchewan or Manitoba.
Canada is too big and too diverse to be ruled by one Federal party.
And West is West
And never the twain shall meet"
I think it would be great if Canada were divided into Canada East and Canada West, the border right between Ontario and Manitoba.
I have lived in both the east and the west and it is like night and day.
The west is friendlier, more relaxed and laid back and just as prosperous in their own right as the east. If I had the choice I would still be in Saskatchewan or Manitoba.
Canada is too big and too diverse to be ruled by one Federal party.
Funny how I don't recollect a peep about splitting up Canada from the Conservatives when Harper was PM.
A Facebook group with a thousand supporters? I'm pretty sure that's legally an independent nation, as per UN treaty. Sure you might think this is just more fringe losers whining online, but actually it's internationally recognized.
The Free Quebec Facebook group never cracked 600 supporters and thus could never form a legal government. I am truly amazed at how quickly Western Canada declared its independence. Long Live King Stephen the Liked!
The Free Quebec Facebook group never cracked 600 supporters and thus could never form a legal government. I am truly amazed at how quickly Western Canada declared its independence. Long Live King Stephen the Liked!
This sentiment initially manifested itself when Justine's daddy was PM.
Kinda ironic if ya ask me
The last time they tried to separate it didnt end so well.
I seriously doubt Harper himself or anyone who served in his government would support this movement. When he won in 06, 08 and 11 you didnt see any provinces taking a fit and saying they wanted to leave over it. Hell even Quebec didnt. Hell some joked about it. I rather liked what Dalton McGuinty said the day after the 08 election. In a sarcastic voice and smile "Ontario wants in!"
I don't see anything democratic about 2 Provinces controlling all of Canada. Especially considering that one of the controlling Provinces doesn't even like the rest of Canada!
It's not just the Conservatives that the West wants. It's a government that understands the different culture of the west. When I lived in Manitoba it was run by an NDP government and they did a good job.
Combined those two provinces have a population of around 21 million. Thats about two thirds of the country. So if they voted as a block it would still be democratic.
I was born and raised in northern Ontario. Provincially the region is practically ignored and doesnt get much of a say in anything even though it has more than 2/3 of Ontario's landmass and most of its natural resources. I didnt like it then and I dont like it now but it goes with democracy. The vast majority of Ontario's population lives in the south so they get to decide how things go. There is no way to get around that without breaking things up or scraping democracy. Neither option appeals to me.
Those 2 provinces have the majority of the population. One vote per person. Or do you feel that westerners deserve more than one vote per person?
The NDP did a shyte job in BC and are now about to bring down the largest deficit in Alberta history.
Well we tend to alternate. Wait another 4 years, 8 tops and another party will be in.
Some here have more or less said that.
Not entirely their fault. If the PCs had been reelected they would have been forced to have a large deficit too. Between their mismanagement over the last few years and declining oil revenue and prices this was inevitable no matter who had come in this year.
You can give the provinces more autonomy. That way you still have one man one vote but the west doesn't have to be run by the east and Kweebeck doesn't have to be run by Hanglish Canada. Everybody would be happier accept centralists
No because under the TPP which your boy on the hill supports, it has hormones.
Your guy supported it too.
Additionally, calling it one man one vote is a little disingenuous. The four Atlantic provinces had 31 seats for 2.1 million people while Alberta had 21 seats for 2.9 million so people's votes aren't exactly equal. A PE Islander's vote carries four times the weight of an Albertan
Of course everybody only gets one vote. That's not what I'm talking about. There just has to be a better way for the less populated areas to get fair representation.
Here's the problem; Government will listen to the largest population therefore they listen mostly too Ontario and Quebec. I don't know about the ratio of urban to rural in Quebec but I assume it is much like Ontario, majority urbanites. Cabinet Ministers are usually appointed from the Provinces with the largest population. Why not? government has to keep those areas happy to retain their power!
Urbanites concerns are vastly different from those of the rural folks and so given tall of the above, the country folk get short shrift.
Splitting Canada into east and west wouldn't necessarily scrap democracy. But it wouldn't help northern Ontario out.
I think the problems of the areas with lesser populations could be addressed right in Parliament if the government had the will to address it. It is their hunger to stay in power that motivates them to cater to the denser populations.
A member of each Province appointed to Cabinet would help immensely.
There's another thorn in the west's side. Quebec DOES get a lot of autonomy that the other Provinces don't get.