Death knell for AGW

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Road closures extend overnight; county schools cancel classes
A rare winter storm swept through Southern Nevada Wednesday, dumping the most snow on the valley in nearly three decades, grounding flights at the airport, forcing the closure of major highways and closing schools for today.
"This is the most snow we've had in Las Vegas in almost 30 years," said Chris Stachelski, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service. "It's a significant historical event."

The heaviest snowfall occurred in the southeast valley, where about 3 inches of snow had accumulated by 7:45 p.m., with unconfirmed reports of as much as 6 inches in Henderson, he said.
Between 6 to 10 inches could fall in that area by the time the storm tapers off Thursday morning, and the northern and western parts of the valley could receive up to 4 inches of snowfall, he said.
The storm dumped 11 inches of snow on Mount Charleston.
Wednesday's snowfall in the valley was the most since 1979, when 7.8 inches fell in a 48-hour period beginning Jan. 30. The snowfall record was set in January 1949 with 9.7 inches falling over two days, according to the weather service.
The weather prompted the Clark County School District to close all schools today. A decision was pending Wednesday night on whether athletic events would take place. Bishop Gorman High School and Faith Lutheran Jr./Sr. High School were among the private schools canceling classes.
Parents at charter and private schools should call their school offices for closure information.
Outgoing flights at McCarran International Airport were grounded Wednesday afternoon because of the snowfall and poor visibility. Incoming flights were cancelled, said Ian Gregor, spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration.
Gregor said the airport doesn't have snow removal or deicing equipment, which means there's no way for snow-covered planes to leave safely.
Airport officials said normal flight operations would resume when the weather improved.
As flights were canceled, erstwhile passengers lined up in the ticketing area in search of other flights.
A long line snaked back and forth in front of the Southwest Airlines windows, but several people waiting there said they had experienced longer waits on other days.
It was a similar story outside, where stranded travelers waited up to 30 minutes for taxis to take them back to the Strip for one more night. Contrary to rumors of three-hour cab lines, airport officials said the waits were not much longer than they might be on any busy evening.
Among the airport's stranded were Sam and Dawn Wills and their two children, daughter Talia, 3, and son Brady, 9 months.
They staked out a patch of carpet in a second-floor hallway, near some restrooms and drinking fountains, where Dawn spooned orange baby food into Brady's mouth.
They hadn't quite decided, but they were leaning toward spending the night there. To catch the next flight to Stockton, Calif., they had to be back in line by 4 a.m. today.
The kids seemed to be handling the situation pretty well, but Sam wasn't sure how much longer that would last.
"We're about 45 minutes from bedtime for him," he said of Brady. "It's a countdown right now."
Added Dawn with a tired smile, "We'd like to be somewhere besides the floor."
The snow also foiled travel plans for drivers on several of Southern Nevada's busy highways. Interstate 15 was closed at Primm, U.S. Highway 95 was closed from Railroad Pass and the California border, and state Route 160 was closed between Las Vegas and Pahrump.
State routes 163, 164 and 165 were also closed.
All of the closures were expected to continue through the night, the Nevada Department of Transportation said.
For roads at Mountain Springs and Mount Charleston, chains, snow tires or four-wheel drive were required for passage.
Authorities reported a smattering of minor, weather-related crashes but no serious accidents.
Transportation department crews were expected to spend the night using a liquid de-icer on part of the valley's freeway system, spokesman Bob McKenzie said. The liquid was to be spread over bridges, viaducts and areas most likely to freeze on I-15 and U.S. 95, he said.
Las Vegas public works crews were expected to be out early this morning and would clear and sand any roads as needed, said spokeswoman Debbie Ackerman said.
Clark County public works spokesman Bobby Shelton said the county's snow-clearing equipment, which consists of two snow plows, two snow blowers and two graders, were all on the outskirts of Southern Nevada, at Mount Charleston, Cold Creek and Columbia Pass. None of the equipment would be available for clearing valley roads Thursday morning, Shelton said.
He advised folks to stay home if possible until weather and road conditions improved.
Stachelski from the weather service predicted Wednesday's snowfall totals would rank between the sixth to eighth heaviest on record.
Other records are sure to fall.
As of 4 p.m. Wednesday, the 2 inches of snow that fell in Las Vegas tied a record set on Dec. 15, 1967. Those two inches also set a valley record for snowfall in the month of December. Both records are expected to topple once the day's total snowfall is recorded.
 

Ron in Regina

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We could use a little bit of that AGW out here on the Prairies this morning. This kind'a
weather makes a guy want to cut the coils in his beer fridge, while spray'n aerosol cans
into the air with the other hand.

When I was much younger in the early '70's...talk was that if Global Warming was real,
we'd be growing Oranges and Lemons out on the Prairies in fifty years. I think that
estimate will need a bit of a time extension. There was also talk of a coming Ice Age,
but this Global Warming or Cooling only came up when the Rum was flowing.
 

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Old Man Winter hammers Canada, coast-to-coast


Globe and Mail Update
December 21, 2008 at 9:06 AM EST

Get ready for another round with Old Man Winter. Major winter storms and extreme cold are hitting from Victoria to St. John's today.
Heavy snow swept by easterly winds gusting up to 50-70 km/h hit Victoria and Vancouver this morning. Accumulations of up to 10 cm. are expected by the time it ends. Blizzards are forecast for the Fraser Valley and Howe Sound.
Winter's icy grip on B.C. claimed another victim Saturday as an elderly Abbotsford woman was found frozen to death outside her home.
The grim find by a neighbour who alerted police came the day after a homeless Vancouver woman burned to death in a makeshift cardboard shelter she was heating with candles.
But, the blast of winter won't be loosening its grip on B.C. for a few days as Environment Canada forecasts flurries and continued plunging mercury throughout the province.

Meteorologist Greg Pearce said an Arctic high-pressure system has dominated the province for the past few days, bringing with it temperatures which included the coldest in Vancouver since 1990.
The temperature dropped to minus-15.2C at Vancouver International Airport Friday night.
It was just off Vancouver's coldest recorded temperature of minus-17.8C in 1950.
"People just have to use common sense and bundle up," Mr. Pearce said.
"We are expecting a combination of cold temperatures and wind with this system, so people should be aware that frostbite can occur in a few minutes."
Vancouver International Airport was kicking into winter operations mode as its busiest time of the year began this weekend.
Spokeswoman Alana Lawrence said crews are getting ready to deal with snow that's forecast for the next few days.
"It involves just clearing the snow of off aircraft, de-icing aircraft. It also means clearing the runways, the taxiways, the aprons, the roads and the bridges leading up to [the airport],” she said. “It's just essentially clearing the surface to make travel safe.”
More than 60,000 people are expected to use the airport every day until the new year.
Calgary is bracing for wind chills close to minus-35 Celsius while Winnipeg is expecting wind chills of minus-38. Low temperatures -- without the wind -- are expected to be in the same range in Regina and Saskatoon.
Ontario is being whacked by another major snowstorm this morning.
Environment Canada is predicting some parts of southern and eastern Ontario will get 15-to-20 centimetres today. This latest blast follows the storm that hit southern Ontario on Friday -- and the region could get even more snow on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, Atlantic Canada is bracing for a major storm to hit this evening and into Monday.
Environment Canada has issued a winter storm warning for southern and eastern New Brunswick, and much of Prince Edward Island.
It is calling for up to 30 centimetres of snow on the Island and as much as 40 centimetres in parts of New Brunswick -- with strong winds causing poor visibility.
A snowfall warning has also been issued for northern Nova Scotia and the Annapolis Valley, and a winter storm watch for the Halifax region and parts of Cape Breton.
And if all that's not bad enough, imagine what it's like in Watson Lake, Yukon, where the low temperature today is forecast to be minus-45.
 

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From sea to stormy sea ...


DAVID EBNER
From Monday's Globe and Mail
December 22, 2008 at 5:35 AM EST

VANCOUVER — Winter walloped Vancouver on the official start of the snowy season Sunday – and it was the same story across the country as Canada approaches its first coast-to-coast white Christmas in almost four decades.
Snow piled up in Vancouver, slowing down traffic and pedestrians.
Several roads on the city's major hills had been barricaded after Vancouver Police declared them unsafe to drive on. TransLink, the regional transit authority, said it would run empty SkyTrain cars through the night to make sure the tracks were clear of snow for this morning's rush hour.
“People are a lot calmer,” said Anne Leckie, of how the snow has slowed down the pace of life in the city.
Holding an umbrella as wet fat flakes fell, she joked: “I'm from the Yukon, this is not that big of a deal.”

Indeed, the town of Watson Lake in Yukon was the coldest place in Canada with a low of -45C.
West of Calgary Sunday, at Lake Louise Ski Area, the -35 temperatures forced the closing of ski lifts, which has occurred intermittently over the past week.
A 63-year-old man in Coquitlam, B.C., was found dead in his van Sunday afternoon. RCMP Corporal Brenda Gresiuk said foul play was ruled out, but added that it's too early in the investigation to tell if weather played a factor in the man's death. He lived in his van and was found in a park area.
Vancouver had a cold day, relatively speaking, on Saturday, as the mercury fell to -15.2, the coldest since the late 1960s. The cold may have played a part in the death of 87-year-old Etorina Bassani in Abbotsford, an hour east of Vancouver. Her body was found Saturday afternoon in her driveway. She is believed to have fallen and hit her head.
Various weather warnings were issued for many regions across the country. In the Maritimes, Environment Canada issued winter storm warnings for southern and eastern New Brunswick and much of Prince Edward Island, while a snowfall warning covered parts of Nova Scotia, with between 15 and 25 centimetres expected in northern areas and the Annapolis Valley.
Vancouver dealt with snow, Halifax was whipped by wind and there was a triple warning for Quebec City – snowfall, blowing snow and wind – as the storm that hit Ontario on Friday moved into Quebec. The blowing snow caused whiteouts on highways throughout Quebec, as well as in Southwestern Ontario.
Inclement weather snarled airports throughout the weekend.
Chima Nkemdirim, heading home to Calgary from New York, was stuck at the Newark Airport in New Jersey. His flight to Toronto was cancelled and he was hoping to get to Chicago last night.
“It's winter, what can you do?” Mr. Nkemdirim said. “I've got my laptop and some movies, I'm sitting, chilling.”
At the Vancouver airport, more than 50 flights were cancelled Sunday and flights that did take off were mostly delayed. The situation was similar at Toronto's Pearson International, Canada's busiest airport, though fewer flights were cancelled.
The arrivals and departures board at Halifax Stanfield International airport was awash in red and yellow early Monday outlining flight cancellations and delays.
The Fredericton Airport, which was reporting at least 30 centimetres of snow on the ground, announced that all flights would be cancelled until at least 9 a.m. AT.
Vancouver is certain to have its first white Christmas since 1998, when there was 20 centimetres on the ground. The temperature is predicted at or below zero through the week.
A white Christmas in Vancouver happens about once a decade and John McIntyre, an Environment Canada meteorologist in the city, said British Columbia's Lower Mainland could have a “perfect Christmas,” which the government weather agency defines as snow on the ground and snow falling.
It also looks like Canada will have its first coast-to-coast white Christmas since 1971. Vancouver is generally without snow and on the years it has it, other areas such as Southern Ontario aren't under the cold blanket.
“It's a white Christmas, everywhere,” said André Cantin, an Environment Canada meteorologist in Quebec City.
 

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Global warming will have to be put on the back burner because to fix the global warming problem will cost money that because of the world economic crises no one has money to pay for it.

When you think about it global warming is not a bad thing because this global warming and cooling has been going on for millions of years and people just adapt.

Instead of trying to change the global environment to suit our needs lets just adapt to it.

Now environmentalists will pull the wool over your eyes and show you all kinds of charts and graphs just so they can make a comfortable living by the donations they can pull in.

They also know that fear pays because newspapers and TV is based on conflict and fear and they are selling a lot.

Environmentalists are no different than your local street urchins begging for bits of food by banging their tin cups.

This time around we have the technologies to adapt more successfully to the environment.

One can create oases in the deserts and one can be productive in the land of ice and snow.

If society adapts to their environment then the environment will take care of itself.

As for the environmentalists they can quit fear mongering and get a real job.
 

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My God! Winter in arrived in LATE DECEMBER in Canada! global warming MUST be false!

Wait...didn't winter used to start in Early November before?
 

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My God! Winter in arrived in LATE DECEMBER in Canada! global warming MUST be false!

Wait...didn't winter used to start in Early November before?

Yeah, but that's inconvenient for meme's sake.

Now get a job Zzarchov! :smile:
 

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James Hansen’s Former NASA Supervisor Declares Himself a Skeptic
Says Hansen ‘Embarrassed NASA’ & ‘Was Never Muzzled’
Gore Faces Scientific Blowback
[FONT=times new roman,times]Washington DC: NASA warming scientist James Hansen, one of former Vice-President Al Gore’s closest allies in the promotion of man-made global warming fears, is being publicly rebuked by his former supervisor at NASA. [/FONT]
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[FONT=times new roman,times]Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist, Dr. John S. Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen, NASA’s vocal man-made global warming fear soothsayer, has now publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen “embarrassed NASA” with his alarming climate claims and said Hansen was “was never muzzled.” Theon joins the rapidly growing ranks of international scientists abandoning the promotion of man-made global warming fears. [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]“I appreciate the opportunity to add my name to those who disagree that global warming is man made,” Theon wrote to the Minority Office at the Environment and Public Works Committee on January 15, 2009. “I was, in effect, Hansen's supervisor because I had to justify his funding, allocate his resources, and evaluate his results,” [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Theon, the former Chief of the Climate Processes Research Program at NASA Headquarters and former Chief of the Atmospheric Dynamics & Radiation Branch explained[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]. [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]“Hansen was never muzzled even though he violated NASA's official agency position on climate forecasting (i.e., we did not know enough to forecast climate change or mankind's effect on it). Hansen thus embarrassed NASA by coming out with his claims of global warming in 1988 in his testimony before Congress,” Theon wrote. [Note: NASA scientist James Hansen has created worldwide media frenzy with his dire climate warning, his call for trials against those who dissent against man-made global warming fear, and his claims that he was allegedly muzzled by the Bush administration despite doing 1,400 on-the-job media interviews![/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]Theon declared “climate models are useless.” “My own belief concerning anthropogenic climate change is that the models do not realistically simulate the climate system because there are many very important sub-grid scale processes that the models either replicate poorly or completely omit,” Theon explained. “Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it. They have resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists. This is clearly contrary to how science should be done. Thus there is no rational justification for using climate model forecasts to determine public policy,” he added.[/FONT]
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[FONT=times new roman,times]“As Chief of several of NASA Headquarters’ programs (1982-94), an SES position, I was responsible for all weather and climate research in the entire agency, including the research work by James Hansen, Roy Spencer, Joanne Simpson, and several hundred other scientists at NASA field centers, in academia, and in the private sector who worked on climate research,” Theon wrote of his career. “This required a thorough understanding of the state of the science. I have kept up with climate science since retiring by reading books and journal articles,” Theon added. ([/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]LINK[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]) Theon also co-authored the book “[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Advances in Remote Sensing Retrieval Methods.”[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] [Note: Theon joins many current and former NASA scientists in dissenting from man-made climate fears. A small sampling includes: Aerospace engineer and physicist Dr. Michael Griffin, the former top administrator of NASA, Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology, and formerly of NASA, Geophysicist Dr. Phil Chapman, an astronautical engineer and former NASA astronaut, [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Award-Winning NASA Astronaut/Geologist and Moonwalker Jack Schmitt[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times], Award-winning NASA Astronaut and Physicist Walter Cunningham of NASA’s Apollo 7, Chemist and Nuclear Engineer Robert DeFayette was formerly with NASA’s Plum Brook Reactor, Hungarian Ferenc Miskolczi, an atmospheric physicist with 30 years of experience and a former researcher with NASA's Ames Research Center, Climatologist Dr. John Christy, Climatologist Dr. Roy W. Spencer, Atmospheric Scientist Ross Hays of NASA's Columbia Scientific Balloon Facility] [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times] Gore faces a much different scientific climate in 2009 than the one he faced in 2006 when his film “An Inconvenient Truth” was released. According to satellite data, the Earth has cooled since Gore’s film was released, Antarctic sea ice extent has grown to record levels, sea level rise has slowed, ocean temperatures have failed to warm, and more and more scientists have publicly declared their dissent from man-made climate fears as peer-reviewed studies continue to man-made counter warming fears.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]“Vice President Gore and the other promoters of man-made climate fears endless claims that the “debate is over” appear to be ignoring scientific reality,” Senator James Inhofe, Ranking Member of the Environment & Public Works Committee. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]A U.S. Senate Minority Report released in December 2008 details over [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]650 international scientists who are dissenting from man-made global warming fears[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] promoted by the UN and yourself. Many of the scientists profiled are former UN IPCC scientists and former believers in man-made climate change that have reversed their views in recent years. The report continues to grow almost daily. We have just received a request from an Italian scientist, and a Czech scientist to join the 650 dissenting scientists report. A chemist from the U.S. Naval Academy is about to be added, and more Japanese scientists are dissenting. Finally, many more meteorologists will be added and another former UN IPCC scientist is about to be included. These scientists are openly rebelling against the climate orthodoxy promoted by Gore and the UN IPCC. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]The prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists' equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and prominently featured the voices of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. Reports from the conference found that [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Skeptical scientists overwhelmed the meeting, with '2/3 of presenters and question-askers hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC'[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] ( See full reports [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]here[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] & [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]here[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] ] In addition, a 2008 canvass of more than 51,000 Canadian scientists revealed 68% disagree that global warming science is “settled.” A November 25, 2008, article in Politico noted that a “growing accumulation” of science is challenging warming fears, and added that the “science behind global warming may still be too shaky to warrant cap-and-trade legislation.” More evidence that the global warming fear machine is breaking down. Russian scientists “rejected the very idea that carbon dioxide may be responsible for global warming”. An American Physical Society editor conceded that a “considerable presence” of scientific skeptics exists. An International team of scientists countered the UN IPCC, declaring: “Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate”. India Issued a report challenging global warming fears. International Scientists demanded the UN IPCC “be called to account and cease its deceptive practices.” [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]The scientists and peer-reviewed studies countering climate claims are the key reason that the U.S. public has grown ever more skeptical of man-made climate doom predictions.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times] The chorus of skeptical scientific voices grow louder in 2008 as a steady stream of peer-reviewed studies, analyses, real world data and inconvenient developments challenged the UN’s and former Vice President Al Gore's claims that the "science is settled" and there is a "consensus." [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]On a range of issues, 2008 proved to be challenging for the promoters of man-made climate fears. Promoters of anthropogenic warming fears endured the following: Global temperatures failing to warm; Peer-reviewed studies predicting a continued lack of warming; a failed attempt to revive the discredited “Hockey Stick”; inconvenient developments and studies regarding rising CO2; the Spotless Sun; Clouds; Antarctica; the Arctic; Greenland’s ice; Mount Kilimanjaro; Global sea ice; Causes of Hurricanes; Extreme Storms; Extinctions; Floods; Droughts; Ocean Acidification; Polar Bears; Extreme weather deaths; Frogs; lack of atmospheric dust; Malaria; the failure of oceans to warm and rise as predicted. [/FONT]
 

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Former astronaut speaks out on global warming

By Associated Press | Sunday, February 15, 2009 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Around the Nation
SANTA FE, N.M. - Former astronaut Harrison Schmitt, who walked on the moon and once served New Mexico in the U.S. Senate, doesn’t believe that humans are causing global warming.
"I don’t think the human effect is significant compared to the natural effect," said Schmitt, who is among 70 skeptics scheduled to speak next month at the International Conference on Climate Change in New York.
Schmitt contends that scientists "are being intimidated" if they disagree with the idea that burning fossil fuels has increased carbon dioxide levels, temperatures and sea levels.
"They’ve seen too many of their colleagues lose grant funding when they haven’t gone along with the so-called political consensus that we’re in a human-caused global warming," Schmitt said.
Dan Williams, publisher with the Chicago-based Heartland Institute, which is hosting the climate change conference, said he invited Schmitt after reading about his resignation from The Planetary Society, a nonprofit dedicated to space exploration.
Schmitt resigned after the group blamed global warming on human activity. In his resignation letter, the 74-year-old geologist argued that the "global warming scare is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision making."
Williams said Heartland is skeptical about the crisis that people are proclaiming in global warming.
"Not that the planet hasn’t warmed. We know it has or we’d all still be in the Ice Age," he said. "But it has not reached a crisis proportion and, even among us skeptics, there’s disagreement about how much man has been responsible for that warming."
Schmitt said historical documents indicate average temperatures have risen by 1 degree per century since around 1400 A.D., and the rise in carbon dioxide is because of the temperature rise.
Schmitt also said geological evidence indicates changes in sea level have been going on for thousands of years. He said smaller changes are related to changes in the elevation of land masses — for example, the Great Lakes are rising because the earth’s crust is rebounding from being depressed by glaciers.
Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the California Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964.
In 1972, he was one of the last men to walk on the moon as part of the Apollo 17 mission.
Schmitt said he’s heartened that the upcoming conference is made up of scientists who haven’t been manipulated by politics.
Of the global warming debate, he said: "It’s one of the few times you’ve seen a sizable portion of scientists who ought to be objective take a political position and it’s coloring their objectivity."
 

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Schmitt said historical documents indicate average temperatures have risen by 1 degree per century since around 1400 A.D., and the rise in carbon dioxide is because of the temperature rise.

Damned 'skeptics' can't even keep their stories straight. Temperature rises are supposed to precede increasing carbon dioxide concentrations by 800-1000 years. 1400 to the late 1800's where carbon dioxide begins to rise is only 400 years...

Ah well, when you don't have real hypothesis tests, why bother being consistent anyways? :error:
 

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+/-100= a range of 200, despite Scott's objections otherwise

Why not ramble on some more about correlations, and show us what you know about those mathematical models. :lol:
 

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+/-100= a range of 200, despite Scott's objections otherwise

Why not ramble on some more about correlations, and show us what you know about those mathematical models. :lol:

 

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Due to the recent cold spell and below normal temperatures for much of the winter of 2008-2009, ice covers nearly all of Lake Superior. Only small areas of open water remain. This image was taken on Tuesday, March 3rd. Click on the image to view a higher resolution satellite picture (image is large -- just under 1mb).
 

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Bloody, highly qualified skeptics.

The world’s largest-ever gathering of global warming skeptics will assemble Sunday in New York City to confront the issue, “Global warming: Was it ever really a crisis?”
The complete program for the 2009 International Conference on Climate Change, including cosponsor information and brief biographies of all speakers, can be downloaded in Adobe's PDF format here.
About 800 scientists, economists, legislators, policy activists, and media representatives are expected to register at the second International Conference on Climate Change, opening Sunday, March 8 and concluding Tuesday, March 10 at the New York Marriott Marquis Hotel.
Produced by The Heartland Institute and 57 co-sponsoring organizations, the conference is devoted to answering questions overlooked by the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. That panel concluded global temperatures may already have reached crisis proportions, and that human activity was a key driver in raising temperatures, primarily because of the release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
But the 80 experts scheduled to speak at the Heartland conference say they will present a substantially different viewpoint.
“The number of people registered for this event is nearly twice as many as attended the 2008 conference,” noted Heartland President Joseph Bast. “And the presenters at this year’s conference are the elite in the world among climate scientists. We will be delighted to demonstrate once again the breadth and high quality of support that the skeptical perspective on climate change enjoys.”
Headliners among the 70-plus presenters will be:
  • Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic and of the European Union. At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, he declared, “Environmentalism and the global warming alarmism is challenging our freedom. I’m afraid that the current crisis will be misused for radically constraining the functioning of the markets and market economy all around the world.”
  • American astronaut Dr. Jack Schmitt--the last living man to walk on the moon--a geologist Ph.D. who has contended he has seen “too many of [my] colleagues lose grant funding when they haven’t gone along with the so-called political consensus that we’re in a human-caused global warming.”
  • William Gray, Colorado State University, who claims global warming alarmists have hijacked the American Meteorological Society.
  • Richard Lindzen, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, one of the world’s leading experts in dynamic meteorology, especially planetary waves.
  • Stephen McIntyre, primary author of Climate Audit, a blog devoted to the analysis and discussion of climate data. He is a devastating critic of the temperature record of the past 1,000 years, particularly the work of Michael E. Mann, creator of the infamous “hockey stick” graph. That graph--thoroughly discredited in scientific circles--supposedly proved that mankind is responsible for a sharp increase in greenhouse gases.
  • Arthur Robinson, curator of a global warming petition signed by more than 32,000 American scientists, including more than 10,000 with doctorate degrees, rejecting the alarmist assertion that global warming has put the Earth in crisis and is caused primarily by mankind.
  • Willie Soon, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
  • Roy Spencer, University of Alabama at Huntsville, principal research scientist and team leader on NASA’s Aqua satellite.
  • Don Easterbrook, professor of geology at Western Washington University in Bellingham, Washington, who will present new data showing “the most recent global warming that began in 1977 is over, and the Earth has entered a new phase of global cooling.”
The Heartland Institute, a 25-year-old national nonpartisan think-tank based in Chicago, said all of the event’s expenses will be covered by admission fees and individual and foundation donors to Heartland. No corporate dollars or sponsorships earmarked for the event were solicited or accepted.
Co-sponsors do not pay any fee or donation to Heartland to be a co-sponsor. Heartland hasn’t received funding from either the Koch or Scaife foundations in at least a decade.
 

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Peter Foster: An Inconvenient Film
Posted: April 10, 2009, 7:02 PM by NP Editor

The only thing wrong with a new film on global warming hysteria, Not Evil Just Wrong, is that its title may be too generous to the alarmists responsible

By Peter Foster
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l Gore is about to feature in a new movie, but he’s not going to like it very much. Titled Not Evil Just Wrong: The True Cost of Global Warming Hysteria, the film presents a devastating account of the shaky foundations and hefty price of Mr. Gore’s brand of self-interested and hypocritical alarmism.
Created by the Irish film making duo of Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney — who made another excellent documentary about the “dark side of environmentalism” called Mine Your Own Business — Not Evil provides the perfect rebuttal to Mr. Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth.
Despite being chock-a-block with inaccuracies and misrepresentations, Mr. Gore’s movie has frightened schoolchildren all over the world, driven the public policy debate, and garnered both an Academy Award and a Nobel Peace Prize for its star.
Not Evil — which is due to be released later this year — will appear at a crucial time. The world’s crisis-beset nations are due to meet in Copenhagen in November to concoct a new policy straitjacket to succeed the meddlesome but utterly failed Kyoto Accord. If global warming's U.N.-based ringmasters have their way, this will lead to a slashing of industrial production in developed countries and to a huge extension of boondoggle redistributionist schemes to fund “green” technologies in developing countries.
Such policy represents a triple threat: it will destroy economic activity; it will cripple trade; and it will hurt the poorest the most. Nevertheless, President Obama appears to be on-board this ship of fools, having bought into the notion that there are net “green jobs” to be had from a massive increase in taxation and regulation of industrial activity.
The impact on Canada could be horrendous, and not merely on the oil sands, which have been targeted by environmental non-governmental organizations. This week, Environment Minister Jim Prentice admitted that Canada could be forced to adopt more draconian regulation if it is not to be hit by threatened U.S. carbon tariffs.
The truly astonishing feature of this policy fandango is that it will have little or no effect on the climate, the science of which is still only dimly understood. However, alarmists such as Mr. Gore have successfully sold the notion that the science is “settled.” This is just one of the claims to which Not Evil Just Wrong puts the lie.
Alternating credible skeptics with arresting imagery, the film makes clear that the science, far from being settled, has been comprehensively misrepresented by the likes of NASA’s James Hansen, who is to Al Gore and climatology what Trofim Lysenko was to Joseph Stalin and agronomy.
There is a wonderful scene of Mr. Hansen becoming almost discombobulated at the very mention of Stephen McIntyre, the maverick Canadian who, with the help of Guelph economist Ross McKitrick, took on the UN climate change establishment over the so-called “hockey stick” temperature graph, and won. Mr. Hansen claims that paying attention to such inconvenient truths amounts to just “clouding the issue.”
The film dramatically outlines the dreadful damage already done by environmental hysteria, in particular the millions of unnecessary deaths caused by the campaign against DDT. That campaign started with Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring, which was at the root of the modern environmental movement in every sense. Despite the World Health Organization’s lifting of the DDT ban, Al Gore remains devoted to Ms. Carson’s memory. And methods. As Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace but now a skeptic, points out, radical environmentalists “care more about fish eggs than they do about children.” Meanwhile kids are shown fretting about about imminent global inundation and the deaths of polar bears.
Just as Mine Your Own Business showed how opposition to mining in developing countries comes often not from the “grassroots” but from well-funded multinational NGOs with as little concern for local employment as they have for truth, so Not Evil Just Wrong further demonstrates environmentalists’ disregard for humanity, and in particular the poor.
Perhaps the most memorable scene in Mine Your Own Business was that of the WWF’s local representative in Madagascar, Mark Fenn, who was leading opposition to a development by Rio Tinto. The appalling Mr. Fenn, who owned a $35,000 catamaran and was building a local luxury home, claimed that poor people were happier, and that if the locals had more money they would “just spend it.”
The film makers have come up with similar buffoons for their new movie, including a Bible-thumping environmentalist in Uganda who opposes using DDT and claims that the U.S. never experienced malaria and Hollywood actor Ed Begley, who suggests that Fijians are “happy with nothing.”
Not Evil Just Wrong which will be released later this year —is an important film that deserves the widest possible distribution, both in theatres and schools. The only quibble that I have with it is that its title might be too generous to those it exposes.
 

Zzarchov

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The main annoyance is now this debate rages not between experts, but between experts and those with no education in the subject using "common sense" on high science.

Well anecdotal evidence and common sense don't work to give a laymen the understanding. Greenhouse gasses, while explained as warming the planet like a greenhouse are just an anology. The heat mechanism is not actually that of a greenhouse.

The notion of Global Warming means that, Global, Not as in "All places on the globe", as in "The globe in the whole". Anecdotal evidence of spots where its colder are not worthwhile in debate because that isn't being debated.
 

Just the Facts

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Due to the recent cold spell and below normal temperatures for much of the winter of 2008-2009, ice covers nearly all of Lake Superior. Only small areas of open water remain. This image was taken on Tuesday, March 3rd.

:cool: Meanwhile, back at the ranch.......


Heatwave sets records across southeast Australia

“The south east of Australia continues to see unprecedented heat at a time where conditions are also historically dry,” said Dr David Jones, Head of Climate Analysis at the Bureau’s National Climate Centre.

Heatwave sets records across southeast Australia - Bureau of Meteorology media release

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs17.pdf
 
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