Dallas Man Shoots, Kills Second Burglar In 1 Month

flutterby

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As a competative shooter, I keep handguns and ammunition stored in my residence. If I were to use these tools to defend my property and my well-being in Canada, I would lose my firearms and the right to own guns and ammunition. In Canada, the rule is ....look the other way and call the police.....
that's not true. in Canada you're allowed to defend your property without being charged.
 

karrie

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that's not true. in Canada you're allowed to defend your property without being charged.


You're allowed to defend your life in Canada, not your property. If it can be proven you could have retreated, and didn't, you go to trial.
 
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Used to be in Canada you could use whatever level of force was necessary to prevent the commission of a crime......and in your residence, especially at night, it was open season on invaders. I remember in Bridgewater, NS a guy shot dead a unarmed 16 year old B&E artist......no charges laid.

Now, let me say this.....the death of a 16 year old kid in this was a tragedy.....it could have been me in my JD days........BUT the philosophy then was the correct one, one should NEVER have to surrender anything in the face of evil. That simple.

Wasn't all that long ago either, late 70s, if memory serves.

My sympathies go out to the old guy.......

Oh yeah......recently in Sussex NB an older gentleman killed a guy driving away in his truck after robbing his garage. The old boy had been repeatedly victimized, he knew who was doing it, but lacked proof. When he was robbed the time before and the RCMP proved useless, he told them he was going to take matters into his own hands. He did. Whacked the thief with a .308 rifle as he drove away......elected trial by judge and jury (smart man), claimed he only was trying to mark the truck (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) and was duly ACQUITTED, much to the chagrin of the Crown.

THAT is why we have juries. Looks good on the numbnuts that run this country.
 

Unforgiven

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How far can you take this? Trespassing? Someone cutting you off or bumping your car in traffic? Feeling panicky in a crowd?
 

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How far can you take this? Trespassing? Someone cutting you off or bumping your car in traffic? Feeling panicky in a crowd?

Trespassing could encompass many things... breaking into a house isn't accidental and you are their for one purpose.

I personally would have no qualms at all about bashing a criminals face in if I found one in my home.
 

karrie

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How far can you take this? Trespassing? Someone cutting you off or bumping your car in traffic? Feeling panicky in a crowd?

which 'you'? It all depends on which country, and if it's the US, which state you live in.

Texas has one of the more liberal laws, stating you can shoot in order to protect your property (vehicle, yard, garage, etc). In Canada, you are only supposed to use 'reasonable force', and are expected to turn tail if possible. The only shooting you'd be likely to get away with is within the walls of your own home, or if you were being shot at and couldn't get away.

We really push the 'only as a last resort' idea. Americans.... not so much.

Frankly, I don't know which one is right.
 

Unforgiven

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Hmm so you have to drag the carcass home do you? How good are they with that whole time of death thing?
 

flutterby

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You're allowed to defend your life in Canada, not your property. If it can be proven you could have retreated, and didn't, you go to trial.
you're allowed to protect your livestock. basically, if you're in the room, who is to say whether you were protecting your life or your property, so ,long as you don't shoot someone in the back.

however, nothing i own is worth shooting someone for, so i have to agree with the law on this one.