Creation or Evolution?

Lewis Black said it best:

"Evolution...
is a very important thread
in the larger tapestry
that is more commonly referred to as...

REALITY!"

Good Show "airdave"!

...Ha! Ha! Ha!

Hey...pass some of that stuff over here!..as a matter of fact "I'll have a double"!

...and we'll all sing "goddamn it" in 4/4 time...while the devil completes each verse with a loud and heart felt "Thank-Ya Jesus"!

No matter which way ya go "Just choose "Yes or No" and we'll make it so!

...because ...We come from the menagerie

of masters...As the moments of man...Not Seeking

...but forever establishing the definition of Creation...

!"spinning wheel got ta go round"!


STAGE LEFT...
 
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Unforgiven

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OK Dexter. Let's call nature God. Let's say God exists only in the sense that God is everything.

Can you really logically and convincingly get to conclusions such as that ''god isn't an individual entity, isn't intelligent''?

But you can't one minute call God, Nature and the next minute Everything. Nature isn't everything. Synthetics for instance aren't natural and so exist outside of nature. Doesn't this throw a wrench into the gears right off?
 

hermanntrude

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synthetics are made my man.

man is part of nature

therefore synthetics are natural.

Silk is made by worms, synthetics are made by humans. the dividing line between "natural" and "unnatural" is a grey one, and a dangerous one. If we start to consider ourselves not part of nature, we find ourselves getting a species-wide sense of superiority, which can only be trouble for the rest of nature.

Men are just apes and we should really remember that.
 

Unforgiven

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synthetics are made my man.

man is part of nature

therefore synthetics are natural.

Silk is made by worms, synthetics are made by humans. the dividing line between "natural" and "unnatural" is a grey one, and a dangerous one. If we start to consider ourselves not part of nature, we find ourselves getting a species-wide sense of superiority, which can only be trouble for the rest of nature.

Men are just apes and we should really remember that.

Synthetic was a bad word to choose from the start. Unnatural is better. I think the theory is that life arrived here rather than occurred here as a byproduct of what was already here. A comet, meteor or what have you, smacked into the Earth and eventually things started happening. But aren't we just arguing semantics? If I tell you there is a beautiful natural landscape just around the corner, do you expect to see a city or mountains?

This is the trouble with interpretation I think. So should we start calling God something else other than what is the accepted meaning of God, we lose that perspective and discussing the concept becomes that much more difficult. non?
 
Dear Yada...Merry Christmas, A Happy New Year & Many Lifetimes to everyone…!

…”I’m not asking for anything…and you can’t have my money”…

But I do bring to you another Star-Treker post”…

Did ya know that a void is the most expensive part of a “round world, universe” type of existence…Sorry, just beakin the ice “a little”…!

The thing is...yada! yada!...ya know that having a comparatively stable reality is something to really be thankful "for"...Don't ya think so...?

Ha, ha!..."stable reality"?...did I say!...Well sometimes others intervene (within a reality) for various reasons...reasons like: "Because they can"...for example, time travelers, some just lookin fer something to do!...and also people like me that are affiliated with other times & places...

…Say bullsheet “if it behooves you” or what a nut case or whatever blows your dress up…

!”just finish the read”! Ha! ha!

Don’t ya know that we are not just an accident boiled in status quos well learned politics…?

AS for creation & evolution...they are merged to fit the times in explanation to one another...and are subject to change at the discretion of the “now”…accordingly as we continue….and either one can be tailored in any way to fit or confuse any time or situation…

As for religions…they are only encouraged as expedient applications of service…meant to satisfy the spirit between the red & white and black & white portions of mankind within a community (having nothing to do with skin color)…As for God, GOD or G.O.D. (Great Omnipotent Divinity)…seek him if ya want to know more…

…I truly understand that we do not just read & receive everything as truth because another says so…Yes “of course” it’s entirely up to the reader “Isn’t It”…?

However if your not accustomed to change and/or new truths and etc. (and new truths are seldom popular), “I suggest you stick to your well entrenched life styles…as a good “rule of thumb”…(no-disrespect intended)

?Why do I write these things?

Because…even if you don’t or can’t receive them…later on they will serve you well…and also those about you...Because I’ve done much future viewing and I am very sure…”How Sure”…Ha! Ha!…Just as sure as when I announced in advance…and effected repair of our ever enlarging hole…to include the anomaly in space that accompanied it…which “by the way” was simply the closeness of the passing continuance that I ask to repair it…

Peace on You…and have a Knurly Christmas…

CMCummings
 
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ANTIMGRAHAN

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when our ancesters came out of cave and started living in communities,,they were too immature to understand the natural forces??? Thats' why they started fearing of those forces.fire would burn them to death,rain would flood away their houses,and forcing them to move from places to places.at this point,they started to worship the fire as fire god,rain as rain god and others.the oldest religion,hinduism has their own fire god(agni) and rain god(indra) and etc.as they encounter other forces during their course of evolution, they named a god after each of them.thats why polytheism existed.monotheism(like in christianity) originated from polytheism.SO,ITS MY VIEW THAT GOD EXISTED ONLY IN MINDS AS A FEAR.,,,,I QUESTION THE SURREAL EXISTENCE OF GOD .
 

Cliffy

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when our ancesters came out of cave and started living in communities,,they were too immature to understand the natural forces??? Thats' why they started fearing of those forces.fire would burn them to death,rain would flood away their houses,and forcing them to move from places to places.at this point,they started to worship the fire as fire god,rain as rain god and others.the oldest religion,hinduism has their own fire god(agni) and rain god(indra) and etc.as they encounter other forces during their course of evolution, they named a god after each of them.thats why polytheism existed.monotheism(like in christianity) originated from polytheism.SO,ITS MY VIEW THAT GOD EXISTED ONLY IN MINDS AS A FEAR.,,,,I QUESTION THE SURREAL EXISTENCE OF GOD .
And so you should. Don't take anybody else's word on anything. Look for proof of existence and you find proof. Look for proof of non-existence and you will find plenty of proof. Quite the quandary. The problem lies in trying to prove something. You will only find proof that you are right. Look dispassionately at the world without prejudiced or motive and the truth may reveal itself to you.