Could Turks and Caicos be Canada’s 11th province?
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Because that is democracy and a free society. What you speak of is imperial control if an oppressed people.
If Surrey or Norfolk want a referendum on leaving as a free people in a democracy they have a right to make the choice.
Yep. 100% sure. Brunel was the greatest.
No it isn't. It's a country holding onto its own territory.
No, they don't.
Strange, engineers themselves don't seem to agree with you. YOUR engineer only got an honorable mention.
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and when did Great Britain become China?
And there was not one Scot in that list, which is a bit strange considering you think they make great engineers.
I still believe Brunel was greater than any of those numpties on that list.
Brunel was the greatest engineer the world has ever seen. He's the guy who gave Britain many of its dockyards; the Great Western railway; a series of steamships, including the world's first propeller-driven transatlantic steamship and the SS Great Britain, the world's first propeller-driven ocean-going iron ship, which was at the time (1843) also the largest ship ever built.
Another "first" of his includes building the world's first tunnel under a navigable river.
Brunel set the standard for a very well built railway, using careful surveys to minimise grades and curves. This necessitated expensive construction techniques and new bridges and viaducts, and the two-mile-long Box Tunnel.
He even astonished Britain by proposing to extend the Great Western Railway westward to North America by building steam-powered iron-hulled ships. He designed and built three ships that revolutionised naval engineering.
For all these great achievements, Brunel is undoubtedly the greatest engineer the world has ever seen and, for that reason, was voted second in the 100 Greatest Britons list in 2004.
China also has every right to hang onto Tibet.
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So are you proposing Canada should not communicate at all with T&C and sever all ties, economic and otherwise with them, lest we offend Britain? Then I could see T&C seeing British membership being a bit burdensome to their tourism industry. But if that is what Britain wants, Canada could oblige. She's all yours.
I wouldn't mind Canada having T&C, but only if they want to come.
So why are you so uptight about it then?
You just keep digging that hole deeper and looking more stupid with every post. You obviously have no idea what freedom and democracy means. You seem to be of the the opinion that Britain should return to being an empirical monarchy similar to before the Magna Carta where the people are chattel of the queen.
And it would have been a badge of honor if you didn't continue to view the rest of non British humanity with contempt.
Dear Queen E 2,
You are the Queen of Canada.
You are also the Queen of the Turks and Caicos.
There is a redundancy here.
Please, by royal edict, reduce your labour by 50%. Incorporate the T&C as part of Canada.
If you wish to make other Islanders such as Bermudians and Falkland Islanders as Canadians, it is your perrogative.
I remain your loyal subject,
Spade
You are the Queen of Canada.
You are also the Queen of the Turks and Caicos.
There is a redundancy here.
Please, by royal edict, reduce your labour by 50%. Incorporate the T&C as part of Canada.
If you wish to make other Islanders such as Bermudians and Falkland Islanders as Canadians, it is your perrogative.
I remain your loyal subject,
Spade
You can talk with them all you like - just not about the islands becoming Canadian.
How are the islands being British somehow hampering their tourism industry? Why would more tourists flock there if the islands suddenly became Canadian?
Too right she's all ours, and she has been since 1799. Those islands have been British for longer than Canada has been Canadian.
Because of the sheer audacity of wanting to claim British territory as your own, and then claiming that Britain is being "colonialist" for not handing it over to Canada.
Stop giving me lectures on empire and imperialism when you're the one who wants to annex British territory.
China has no right to Tibet. It was never Chinese territory. It predates China and even predates the Mongols. Not a surprise to see you support Chinese imperialism given your position on the freedom of T&C citizens to determine their own future.
So you're proposing that we need to censor ourselves lest the residents of T&C take us up on our offer? Hey, it's British territory and we shall respect your sovereignty. If any Canadian in Turks and Caicos speaks about T&C joining Canada and is arrested, stands trial, and is found guilty, Canada will respect the decision. We respect your laws on your soil, you resepct ours on our soil.
In Canada though, we can talk about it all we want.
The islands being British does not necessarily hamper their tourism industry. However, this would:
"I think Britain has got every right to tell Canada to stay away from BRITISH TERRITORY."
If you do not want Canadians near T&C Terrirory, all you need to do is pass a law saying Canadians are not allowed on T&C Territory. As you said, it's your territory, so Canada has no power to tell its citizens not to go there. As far as I'm concerned, it's not up to Canada to tell its citizens what they can or cannot do abroad.
In fact, in principle, though I'm all for extradition treaties, Canada should just return Canadian pedophiles to the countries in which they committed the crime and should not be tried on Canadian territory in a Canadian court for a crime they did not commit in Canada.
But here's the question. Is she yours whether she likes it or not, or is she free to leave if she wishes to?
When did we ever claim it as our own. We merely invited her to join if if she liked. And who ever asked Britain to hand her over. If you offered to hand it over to us, I'd hope we turn the offer down. I would not want Britain to give it to us. I'd want T&C to choose of its own free will to join us.
Does that scare you somehow?
Clearly T&C is not interested, so why are you so concerned?
I don't care what they do as long as the people on the islands decide for themselves. Get it yet moron. We in Canada believe in freedom and democracy. If T&C want to join us they will be welcomed, if they don't we wish them all the best.
I know you are devastated that Canada and Australia and now Gambia all decided to kick British rule and the monarchy to the curb so I suggest you run to the pub and drown your sorrows in a few pints of bitter. Staying on here proudly lauding the lack of freedom and democracy in your territories makes you look bitter and stupid.
Stop giving me lectures on empire and imperialism when you're the one who wants to annex British territory.
Canada is definitely guilty of imperialist acts around the world, especially through CIDA internationally and The Department of Indian Affairs domestically.
However, inviting Turks & Caicos to join us is hardly an imperialist act.
If you want to criticize Canadian imperialism, go right ahead. I encourage you to. However, to label a friendly invitation as imperialist is an insult to legitimate injustices that Canada commits.
You're not doing legitimate critics of Canadian imperialism a favour here, BL.
Rubbish.
China has got every right to Tibet. It has been part of China since the Yuan Dynasty in the 14th Century. China has the support of most countries. Hardly any country has ever recognised Tibet as an independent natiom.
Thomas Heberer, professor of political science and East Asian studies at the University of Duisburg-Essen, Germany, wrote: "No country in the world has ever recognized the independence of Tibet or declared that Tibet is an 'occupied country'. For all countries in the world, Tibet is Chinese territory."
Tibet is Chinese. End of.
Wanting British territory to become Canadian territory is imperialist.
Codswallop. If they didn't want to join you you'd be absolutely devastated.
Gambia got its independence back in 1965 before I was even born. Check facts before posting, please.
The last time I looked, the Turks and Caicos Islands are a democracy.