Cops don't like new drinking and driving laws

[JLM]

JLM I'm disappointed. I though you would have been a connoisseur of fine wines. The rest of the conoisseurs would definitely disagree
with you though.....Lol

I certainly wouldn't say connoisseur, although I did make my own wine (from kits) for several years and others who tried it thought it was pretty good. I made red wines as they are supposed to be good for your heart- but then my doctor blew that theory when he pointed out I could get the exact same benefit out of Welsh's grape juice. :smile:

 

[#juan]

I certainly wouldn't say connoisseur, although I did make my own wine (from kits) for several years and others who tried it thought it was pretty good. I made red wines as they are supposed to be good for your heart- but then my doctor blew that theory when he pointed out I could get the exact same benefit out of Welsh's grape juice. :smile:

Not the exact same benefit :smile:;-)

 

[JLM]

Not the exact same benefit :smile:;-)

I'm not sure that "benefit" is quite the right word. :smile:

 

[taxslave]

I look at this new legislation as being a valuable tool for the cops to use to remove bad drivers from the road. A smart cop wouldn't sit outside a restaurant waiting to check patrons for sobriety. He would be parked 3 or 4 blocks down the road watching for tailgating, weeving in and out of traffic and drivers cutting off other drivers while changing lanes, failure to yield to pedestrians etc. So that anyone he stops is already guilty of bad driving. Only a fool would turn it into a witch hunt. :smile:

Unfortunately by making the police Judge, Jury, Executioner it is putting too much power in the hands of a biased person. Lets ay that the cop is your neighbour and hates your dog. He can abuse his power and cost you a fortune and your reputation and there isn't a thing you can do about it since you cannot fight the ticket in court and your car has already been impounded, or it may be a company vehicle you are driving. Who pays? And how do you recover your costs. Might as well just have a computer generate random tickets and mail them out.
In the end it is still just an arbitrary number that does not reflect ability to drive safely. I know several people that are not safe to drive without anything. All this still does nothing to get the chronic drunks off the road.

 

[#juan]

Unfortunately by making the police Judge, Jury, Executioner it is putting too much power in the hands of a biased person. Lets ay that the cop is your neighbour and hates your dog. He can abuse his power and cost you a fortune and your reputation and there isn't a thing you can do about it since you cannot fight the ticket in court and your car has already been impounded, or it may be a company vehicle you are driving. Who pays? And how do you recover your costs. Might as well just have a computer generate random tickets and mail them out.
In the end it is still just an arbitrary number that does not reflect ability to drive safely. I know several people that are not safe to drive without anything. All this still does nothing to get the chronic drunks off the road.

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[JLM]

Unfortunately by making the police Judge, Jury, Executioner it is putting too much power in the hands of a biased person. Lets ay that the cop is your neighbour and hates your dog. He can abuse his power and cost you a fortune and your reputation and there isn't a thing you can do about it since you cannot fight the ticket in court and your car has already been impounded, or it may be a company vehicle you are driving. Who pays? And how do you recover your costs. Might as well just have a computer generate random tickets and mail them out.
In the end it is still just an arbitrary number that does not reflect ability to drive safely. I know several people that are not safe to drive without anything. All this still does nothing to get the chronic drunks off the road.

Good points.

 

[petros]

A crack smoker will always blow 0.0..... I for one fully support the lowering and issuing of more 24hr roadside suspension if the suspect fails the roadside dance.

That roadside dance is what pulls the crack smokers like Campbell off the roads and gives police the ability to search vehicles for contraband once again.

I hope that helps paint a bigger picture.

Punt!

 

[Kreskin]

Now that this has become a financial disaster for restaurants, this miracle lifesaving legislation isn't quite as popular amongst the ruling elite. Please please, go out and drink (and drive), they ask of you. It would be a perfect world if everyone continued to drink and drive so restaurants kept afloat and the government could collect the fines. Keeping everyone off the roads, except the heavy drunks, is throwing a wrinkle into the plan.

Solicitor general to review B.C.'s tougher drinking-driving laws

 

[JLM]

Now that this has become a financial disaster for restaurants, this miracle lifesaving legislation isn't quite as popular amongst the ruling elite. Please please, go out and drink (and drive), they ask of you. It would be a perfect world if everyone continued to drink and drive so restaurants kept afloat and the government could collect the fines. Keeping everyone off the roads, except the heavy drunks, is throwing a wrinkle into the plan.

Solicitor general to review B.C.'s tougher drinking-driving laws

If it comes down to a choice between public safety and restaurants prospering, for me it's a no brainer. I don't think for the vast majority of the population One glass of wine or one bottle of beer is a problem, especially when taken with food. If a person can't enjoy a good meal without getting half swacked, I'd say he/she has problem. Of course I can see the restaurant's angle, a $15 bottle of wine generates $50 or $60 for them. Tough tiddly. Maybe they should be charged with bootlegging/extortion. :lol:

 

[Kreskin]

If it comes down to a choice between public safety and restaurants prospering, for me it's a no brainer. I don't think for the vast majority of the population One glass of wine or one bottle of beer is a problem, especially when taken with food. If a person can't enjoy a good meal without getting half swacked, I'd say he/she has problem. Of course I can see the restaurant's angle, a $15 bottle of wine generates $50 or $60 for them. Tough tiddly. Maybe they should be charged with bootlegging/extortion. :lol:

I would agree if this had anything to do with public safety. It's a public scam that isn't going according to plan.

 

[JLM]

I would agree if this had anything to do with public safety. It's a public scam that isn't going according to plan.

I heard a report on the news the other day that since this new legislation came into effect for one month there was five booze related fatalities compared to the normal 15. Hey, even if it's only one less it's good enough for me. I really don't think the average sensible person is going to be adversely affected, notwithstanding a power hungry cop arriving on the scene, but hey, that is a separate problem (he needs tweaking, not the law).