Conservative 'Robocalls' tricked voters in last election

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Just a suggestion. How about we keep the discussion to what we know, what we think, what is being reported. And all of us play nice in the sandbox. Just a suggestion is all.
 

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Just a suggestion. How about we keep the discussion to what we know, what we think, what is being reported. And all of us play nice in the sandbox. Just a suggestion is all.

I wonder if you could send that suggestion out by robocall?

Really, the GRC and Elections Canada are investigating. How this will turn out is anyone's guess. If rogue operatives or officials, regardless of party, have broken Canadian election's law, they should be prosecuted. Nevertheless, tens of thousands of complaints make it difficult to sort out with the manpower available.
 

CDNBear

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Wow...that lawsuit got settled pretty quickly.
Oh I see what you think you did there.

The harder you try, the more stupid you look.

But feel free to keep going. I love playing with you until you start rambling and grasping at straws.
 

CDNBear

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Clearly you don't.
So you say.

Why don't you explain what you mean then.

You are always going on about asking for clarity.

Feel free to clear it all up.

This should be interesting, at the very least.

I have to head out for dinner, and I'll be ice fishing in the morning, but don't let that stop from clarifying yourself. I'll be back.
 

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I would have liked to hear Harper and Co. come out with guns blazing, confirming that this sort of action is an insult to democracy and to Parliament, but if they have said any such thing, I haven't heard it.

Which removes another 50% of the already small respect I have for this collection of nasty assholes.

You're either with us, or against us, to use their own logic, and therefore Harper and Company must hate democracy.
 

CDNBear

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Does that clear it up for you?
I was right when I said "Oh I see what you think you did there." Your admitted stupidity is impeding your ability to think clearly, as usual.

Lucky for you, the winds are making it to dangerous to venture out on the ice today.

I would have liked to hear Harper and Co. come out with guns blazing, confirming that this sort of action is an insult to democracy and to Parliament, but if they have said any such thing, I haven't heard it.

Which removes another 50% of the already small respect I have for this collection of nasty assholes.

You're either with us, or against us, to use their own logic, and therefore Harper and Company must hate democracy.
I agree, but it is kind of hard to do, when you're instantly placed on defense.
 
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Edmonton company sues NDP, MP over comments





The Edmonton company that ended up being used to robocall incorrect polling information to voters in the last federal election is suing the NDP and Pat Martin for $5 million after the MP publicly criticized the company.

RackNine Inc. and its CEO, Matt Meier, filed a statement of claim on Friday alleging Martin made defamatory and malicious statements beginning with a Feb. 23 news conference in Ottawa and during subsequent media appearances the next three days. The statements were "calculated" to cause the "maxi-mum damage" to the reputations of RackNine and Meier, actions which the lawsuit alleges will damage the business.

The lawsuit states that RackNine has co-operated with an Elections Canada investigation into a customer that used the company's automated dialing service to breach the Elections Act. In November, a court order from an Edmonton judge compelled RackNine to turn over all correspondence, emails and records of contact between the company and representatives of the Conservative party general election campaign in Guelph, stating there are "reasonable grounds to suspect" that person or persons unknown "did by pretence or contrivance, induce or attempt to induce" persons to refrain from voting, a violation of the Canada Elections Act.

Martin repeatedly questioned the relationship between the Conservatives and RackNine. Meier said his family received crank calls and threats from people who believe he was party to attempted voter fraud, even though the court order linked the robocalls and the Conservative party, but not RackNine.

RackNine and Meier are seeking $2.5 million in general and aggravated damages, $2.5 million for loss of income, and punitive damages and legal costs. None of the allegations have been proven in court.




Edmonton company sues NDP, MP over comments

The outbreak of robocallitis, egged-on complaints, hysteria, foggy mountain memories and such is nearly as bad as all the bigfoot, mysterious sounds and UFO sightings.

Perhaps there is a nice online library of recordings of these calls we can listen to in our spare time.

Anywo, I'm sure there are a genuine few (all parties pull this shyte) but 31,000? :lol:
 

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Good for Racknine and Meier. If Martin, the NDP and others want to make insinuations and allegations about the gov't in session, that is one thing, but being given a mic doesn't mean he has the right to make unproven statements about other individuals or companies with impunity. It also doesn't mean he has the right to take his own sweet time in addressing his wrongdoing, while he has cost people millions of dollars. Martin can whine about Racknine "silencing him with their chequebook" but without of proof of wrongdoing to back his statements, he is trespassing on the rights of someone else, based on his own opinion of the alleged wrong done in the Robocall affair.
 

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As far as I understand, MPs have some kind of protection for the statements they make as long as they are in the house.
 

CDNBear

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Good for Racknine and Meier. If Martin, the NDP and others want to make insinuations and allegations about the gov't in session, that is one thing, but being given a mic doesn't mean he has the right to make unproven statements about other individuals or companies with impunity. It also doesn't mean he has the right to take his own sweet time in addressing his wrongdoing, while he has cost people millions of dollars. Martin can whine about Racknine "silencing him with their chequebook" but without of proof of wrongdoing to back his statements, he is trespassing on the rights of someone else, based on his own opinion of the alleged wrong done in the Robocall affair.
Especially since Racknine has cooperated with Elections Canada, since day one.

Martin has been privy to any and all evidence the public has, re: Racknine's culpability. And yet he chose to make unfounded, unsubstantiated, and defamatory, accusations and claims, in absolutes. Contrary to evidence, and reality.

I've read Martin' commentary, as cited in Meier's Statement of Claim. I have a decent knowledge of Canadian defamation/libel law. I have no doubt, Meier will win. The only thing that isn't a sure thing, is the amount he will be awarded.
 

CDNBear

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As far as I understand, MPs have some kind of protection for the statements they make as long as they are in the house.
In the House.

Martin continued his stupidity outside it's protective confines.

You fully support the suit filed against Martin. Right?