Conservative 'Robocalls' tricked voters in last election

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Let's not muddy the waters here by having some personal, side argument.
Au contraire, it would actually clear the muddy waters of your agenda.

So, I ask again, why are your posts, filled with speculation, better than Colpy's?

If they were from another party's supporters list, there would be no reason for that party to mis-direct the voter once they found out they were non-conservative voters. It wouldn't really make much sense.
It makes perfect sense, a party knows it's down and out, and looking to tarnish a party that will likely win.
 

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'Huge' robocall probe needed: Tory

The fraudulent calls that misdirected voters across Canada are grounds "for a f--king huge investigation," Stephen Harper's former chief of staff said in an email to a reporter this week.

Ian Brodie's comments have a strikingly different tone than the official Conservative talking points, in which any reports of misleading calls beyond Guelph are dismissed as baseless smears by sore losers on the opposition benches.

"Something seems to have gone on, on a scale I've never seen before," Brodie wrote to Globe and Mail columnist Lawrence Martin, then joked: "As you may be aware, I am a strong proponent of the death penalty for this sort of thing."

Martin, who didn't realize the comments were not for publication, posted them in a story on iPolitics.ca, which the political website later took down.

Brodie was the chief of staff in the Prime Minister's Office from 2006 until 2008.

Brodie's comments were published a few hours after the National Post revealed that the mysterious "Pierre Poutine" demon-dialled his way through five area codes.

The unnamed individual behind misleading "robocalls" during the last federal election misdirected 5,053 voters in Guelph, Ont.'s 519 area code, but also called 74 people in suburban Toronto's 905 area code, 35 people in Toronto's 416, 22 in the 705 area of northern Ontario, 14 in 613 -- which includes Kingston and Ottawa -- and one person in Thunder Bay, the Post's John Ivison reported on Friday.

Conservatives suggest that the pattern shows Poutine may have downloaded a list of Guelph opposition supporters that was clogged by bad data, which would explain why voters beyond the riding have complained of receiving the robodial directing them to the wrong polling station.

An industry expert, who spoke on condition of anonymity, agreed that may be what happened.

"It just means they didn't take the time to scroll through the list of phone numbers and delete them," he said.

There are unverified reports from some voters, though, that they received recorded calls similar to the Guelph call, directing them not to the Quebec Street Mall location in Guelph, but to locations in other ridings.

Some of those calls may have come from telephone numbers other than that assigned to the Joliette, Que., "burner" phone that Poutine used for his misdirection campaign.

If those reports are confirmed, it would suggest that the mysterious Poutine was acting beyond Guelph, recording a series of messages designed to bamboozle voters in different ridings.

In Montreal on Friday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said his party is helping Elections Canada with its investigation. "I've repeated a number of times that all our calls are documented," he said. "They are available to Elections Canada. Of course, serious things did occur in Guelph and for months now we have been helping Elections Canada to carry out its investigation." Harper also called on the other parties to do the same.

The Conservatives are believed to have provided Elections Canada with an electronic clone of their massive Constituency Information Management System, which would include detailed logs showing who downloaded which lists.

Investigators may have been able, therefore, to match up the Pierre Poutine list with a specific download from CIMS.

'Huge' robocall probe needed: Tory - Winnipeg Free Press
 

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If they were from another party's supporters list, there would be no reason for that party to mis-direct the voter once they found out they were non-conservative voters. It wouldn't really make much sense.

If the cons were behind this do you really think they are dumb enough to use the same robocall company they use for polling? That is just too convenient.
 

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If they were from another party's supporters list, there would be no reason for that party to mis-direct the voter once they found out they were non-conservative voters. It wouldn't really make much sense.

If the cons were behind this do you really think they are dumb enough to use the same robocall company they use for polling? That is just too convenient.

I think all parties could be guilty of some form of voter suppression. The conservatives just have the most likely story and history, unfortunately for them, that they are taking most of the rap for this.
 

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In Montreal on Friday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said his party is helping Elections Canada with its investigation.
That sound like a bull**** car ad. "Here at blah blah blah motors we're working hard with oil companies to improve fuel economy....."
 

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Robocalls: Who is Rick McKnight? No one seems to know who the mystery RackNine employee really is | News | National Post

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-mystery-employee/article2375881/?from=sec431

If Minuesa was involved in the robocalls, his being a non-citizen will certainly play a role, as it is absolutely forbidden by EC for any non-citizen to induce the electorate in any way...

Phony names and burner cell phones? Sounds too much like some cheesey spy novel that I'd just as soon decline to read...
 
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Speaker’s riding shifted cash to Tory campaign ensnared in robo-calls probe

Less than two weeks before the 2011 election, Andrew Scheer’s Regina-Qu’Appelle riding association in Saskatchewan transferred $3,000 to the Guelph Conservative campaign for candidate Marty Burke.

Elections Canada records suggest this was the only Conservative riding association outside Guelph to transfer cash to Mr. Burke’s campaign during the writ period.

Mr. Scheer has served as Conservative MP for the Saskatchewan riding of Regina-Qu’Appelle since 2004. It was only after the 2011 ballot that he was elected Speaker of the House of Commons, which makes him president and referee of the Chamber.

Mr. Scheer’s office referred questions about the $3,000 to the Conservative electoral district association for Regina-Qu’Appelle.

The Speaker’s spokeswoman said Mr. Scheer, who sits on the board of his Saskatchewan riding association, wanted to help out Mr. Burke.

“He says that the candidate [Burke] was originally from Regina. His mother still lives in the riding. He has volunteered for Scheer before,” Heather Bradley said.

Ms. Baylis said she’s not sure how Guelph used the cash. “We never asked. How would we know what they needed it for? They may need more advertising, more brochures. We never specified and we never asked.”

She said the only criteria was that spending meet Elections Canada rules.

Ms. Baylis said she wrote a cheque for Guelph on April 21. The Burke campaign records filed with Elections Canada show it as received April 29, three days before the May 2 ballot.

She said her riding association has recorded it as a “forgivable loan” but one it never expects to be paid back.

Speaker's riding shifted cash to Tory campaign ensnared in robo-calls probe - The Globe and Mail
 
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These 'stories' are drying up faster than Malias' vacation info.
 

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Then don't respond if you don't care. You're just giving it more exposure.