Conservative Gurmant Grewal

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant Grewal

jimmy123 said:
If you want to know how the NDP budget amendment could have been avoided, you need look no further than the Conservative leader who, if he had simply stated clearly that he would support the initial Liberal budget, would have avoided the Liberal/NDP deal entirely.

Well, in his defense, he was far too busy throwing an Adscam tantrum... :lol:
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant Grewal

Vanni Fucci said:
jimmy123 said:
If you want to know how the NDP budget amendment could have been avoided, you need look no further than the Conservative leader who, if he had simply stated clearly that he would support the initial Liberal budget, would have avoided the Liberal/NDP deal entirely.

Well, in his defense, he was far too busy throwing an Adscam tantrum... :lol:

....which was totally justified, unless you want a lying, corrupt, and thieving government. Oh wait, according to the polls, I guess that is what Eastern Canada wants. :twisted:
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant Grewal

bluealberta said:
....which was totally justified, unless you want a lying,

Fearful of being overrun by the larger Canadian Alliance, Progressive Conservative leader Peter MacKay said he won't agree to any merger agreement that allows his party's fate to be determined by "the province of Alberta alone."

bluealberta said:

http://bucketsofgrewal.blogspot.com/

bluealberta said:
and thieving government.

David Orchard Wants His Money Back

So how would voting for a bunch of redneck bigots prevent all of the above blue?
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant

Reverend Blair said:
No matter how many times you and the Alberta separatist party repeat that it still won't be true, Blue.

Whats not true? That the Liberals lie, cheat, steal and mismanage? Even you cannot deny that, it has been proven and proven and proven. Maybe its time your head came out and looked around.
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant Grewal

Vanni Fucci said:

I don't know, Vanni, ask your family and friends if you want the answer. I don't personally know any redneck bigots, but you must, you keep referring to them. Guess it takes one to know one.
 

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RE: Conservative Gurmant

The "right" can't the the whole picture and truth as they are too dizzy from all the spinning........
 

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no1important said:
The "right" can't the the whole picture and truth as they are too dizzy from all the spinning........

Have to spin simply to keep up with the dizzy spinners on the left who really don't have all the answers, but think they do. The right just lets them think they do, keeps them happy and content in their corner being fed shit. Just like a mushroom, or toadstool.
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant

bluealberta said:
Have to spin simply to keep up with the dizzy spinners on the left who really don't have all the answers, but think they do. The right just lets them think they do, keeps them happy and content in their corner being fed shit. Just like a mushroom, or toadstool.

...or a big 'C' conservative... :p
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant

Vanni Fucci said:
bluealberta said:
Have to spin simply to keep up with the dizzy spinners on the left who really don't have all the answers, but think they do. The right just lets them think they do, keeps them happy and content in their corner being fed shit. Just like a mushroom, or toadstool.

...or a big 'C' conservative... :p

The difference: We know that we are right, the left just thinks they are right :p
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Conservative Gurmant Grewal

bluealberta said:
Vanni Fucci said:

I don't know, Vanni, ask your family and friends if you want the answer. I don't personally know any redneck bigots, but you must, you keep referring to them. Guess it takes one to know one.

So, rather than a real response, you make some vague allusion to my family and friends...

That's alright though, as everyone here knows that your party of preference is unsustainable, and it is only a matter of time before they wither on the vine...

Ah...and what a glorious day for Parliament that will be... 8)

They might actually be able to get something done for this country without the Conservatives f**king around trying in vain to topple the government... :p
 

Vanni Fucci

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bluealberta said:
Vanni Fucci said:
bluealberta said:
Have to spin simply to keep up with the dizzy spinners on the left who really don't have all the answers, but think they do. The right just lets them think they do, keeps them happy and content in their corner being fed shit. Just like a mushroom, or toadstool.

...or a big 'C' conservative... :p

The difference: We know that we are right, the left just thinks they are right :p

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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I don't think anyone here is denying that the Liberals are corrupt. but you, Blue, are in denial about the corruption in your own party. The comment I made about Chuck Cadman went right over your head and instead of going there (it would have been a no win situation for you) you decided to attack the NDP. All of the parties put their own particular spin on everything. What is sad is that there are so many Canadians that buy their favorite flavour, and defend it as if the spin were true.
 

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mrmom2 said:
Bravo hear hear I totaly agree Ted :thumbright: F**king liars and thieves.I hate them all :wink:

So, here is a question for all of you who think the press is not biased. When the COPIES of the Grewal tape were determined to be altered, it was headlines with all the liberal leaning press. When the originals were determined not to be altered, as confirmed by one of the same guys who determined that the copies were altered, it was a non news event. The originals have been determined to be accurate, no alterations. Tell me, why has not the Dull and Mail or the Toronto Red Star not splashed this as headlines? Why have not the liberal CBC and CTV not headlined this? The answer is obvious. They are horribly liberally biased, and have bought into the liberal spin and lies and corruption.

And Ted, please explain to me how the CPC who have not formed a government, are corrupt? This party is not the reform, alliance, or previous PC party. They have not had the opportunity to be corrupt, but there is certainly no doubt that the Libs are.
 

Reverend Blair

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So, here is a question for all of you who think the press is not biased. When the COPIES of the Grewal tape were determined to be altered, it was headlines with all the liberal leaning press. When the originals were determined not to be altered, as confirmed by one of the same guys who determined that the copies were altered, it was a non news event.

Because those tapes had never been made public. Your party tried to lie to us. They altered tapes. They released inaccurate transcipts. They were playing games.

You should also understand that the CBC ran the story about the tapes for a day and a half, every hour on the hour, on Radio 1 and NewsWorld. Whoever gave you the information that they didn't cover it was being far less than honest with you.

And Ted, please explain to me how the CPC who have not formed a government, are corrupt? This party is not the reform, alliance, or previous PC party. They have not had the opportunity to be corrupt, but there is certainly no doubt that the Libs are.

Releasing altered recordings is corrupt. Secretly taping people is corrupt. Protecting Cargill (a major campaign contributor) was corrupt. That's without being in power, imagine how bad they'd be if they were in power.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
So, here is a question for all of you who think the press is not biased. When the COPIES of the Grewal tape were determined to be altered, it was headlines with all the liberal leaning press. When the originals were determined not to be altered, as confirmed by one of the same guys who determined that the copies were altered, it was a non news event.

Because those tapes had never been made public. Your party tried to lie to us. They altered tapes. They released inaccurate transcipts. They were playing games.

You should also understand that the CBC ran the story about the tapes for a day and a half, every hour on the hour, on Radio 1 and NewsWorld. Whoever gave you the information that they didn't cover it was being far less than honest with you.

And Ted, please explain to me how the CPC who have not formed a government, are corrupt? This party is not the reform, alliance, or previous PC party. They have not had the opportunity to be corrupt, but there is certainly no doubt that the Libs are.

Releasing altered recordings is corrupt. Secretly taping people is corrupt. Protecting Cargill (a major campaign contributor) was corrupt. That's without being in power, imagine how bad they'd be if they were in power.

So everything the Liberals did is ok.

The CBC would have a field day if the shoes were on the other feet. You know it so do i.
 

Reverend Blair

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So everything the Liberals did is ok.

I never said that.

The CBC would have a field day if the shoes were on the other feet. You know it so do i.

The CBC has provided full coverage of Gomery, the saga of the doctored tapes, and all the other instances of corruption...both Liberal and Conservative.
 

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thelib said:
Reverend Blair said:
So, here is a question for all of you who think the press is not biased. When the COPIES of the Grewal tape were determined to be altered, it was headlines with all the liberal leaning press. When the originals were determined not to be altered, as confirmed by one of the same guys who determined that the copies were altered, it was a non news event.

Because those tapes had never been made public. Your party tried to lie to us. They altered tapes. They released inaccurate transcipts. They were playing games.

You should also understand that the CBC ran the story about the tapes for a day and a half, every hour on the hour, on Radio 1 and NewsWorld. Whoever gave you the information that they didn't cover it was being far less than honest with you.

And Ted, please explain to me how the CPC who have not formed a government, are corrupt? This party is not the reform, alliance, or previous PC party. They have not had the opportunity to be corrupt, but there is certainly no doubt that the Libs are.

Releasing altered recordings is corrupt. Secretly taping people is corrupt. Protecting Cargill (a major campaign contributor) was corrupt. That's without being in power, imagine how bad they'd be if they were in power.

So everything the Liberals did is ok.

The CBC would have a field day if the shoes were on the other feet. You know it so do i.

Rev, only anyone with a limited intelligence would not understand that the Libs offered Grewal something. If there answer was no, why did they say that Martin would talk to him on the phone on the way to Regina? Why did Dosanjh not say no? Why did Murphy not say no? Why did Dosanjh have to get Murphy, just so neither could say no? Why did the LIbs continue to call Grewal and not say no? Why is there absolutely no indication of a no response in any of the transcripts? And further:

On The Rutherford Show in Calgary today, it was confirmed that the original tapes have been reviewed by one of the same experts who said that the copies were altered, and he said that the originals were unaltered. I wonder why this has not been healdline news across Canada, given that the altered copies was headline news.

In addition, the RCMP investigated the Air Canada incident and determined nothing illegal was done, and there was no impropriety. Anyone who has passed the security is free to do exactly what Grewal did, and apparently this happens all the time.

I again wonder why this was not headline news, given that the original Air Canada incident was headline news. Oh yes, I forgot. Liberal media always reports what appears to be Conservative errors, but never reports anything that supports the conservatives.

John Reynolds also said that he has reported Murphy, Dosanjh, and David Petereson to the Law society due to their improprieties in the Grewal and Stronach deals. He said he was encouraged to do this by lawyers from BC. Appears all this may no be over yet.