CONS Pressure Libs on Saudi Deal CONS Negotiated

tay

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Shameless sleazebags........

Mr. Clement acknowledges that the Conservatives are asking for information they refused to release while in office under Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Tories press Liberal government to justify Saudi arms deal - The Globe and Mail



 

Walter

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Just doing their job as HerMajesty's Loyal Opposition. Good on the Cons.
 

captain morgan

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Gotta love it, Trudeau breaks yet another promise, and the only explanation left for the usual suspects is to blame Harper.

... Gonna be 4 years of disappointment and bitter tears for the leftie crowd
 

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Mr. Clement acknowledges that the Conservatives are asking for information they refused to release while in office under Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

But he says the new leadership of the Conservative Party feels differently.

“This is a [Liberal] government that has promised more transparency. I think that is consistent with the times in which we live,” Mr. Clement said.

“So don’t take the signal from the last government. If you want to be true to your principles and values, which the Conservative Party under new leadership shares, let’s move forward.”


If this was reversed, this...


Would be replaced with a whole lot of pony fluffing, by Flossy the fluffer, lol.
 

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Poor fallacious curmudgeons...

Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion said he has instructed officials in his department to review existing practices and provide him with advice on making public a redacted version of country reports on human rights practices.

"The documents are intended for internal use and are classified," Dion said in a written statement Monday.

"I would be pleased to release, upon request, unclassified versions," said Dion, adding, "I want to ensure that we respect the safety and security of identified sources."

The last report on Saudi Arabia was prepared in 2011 and was not made public by Stephen Harper's Conservative government.


Stéphane Dion open to partial release of Saudi human rights report - Politics - CBC News
 

relic

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I guess you arseholes forget that harper promised honest, open and transparent government also. How''d that work out ?
 

davesmom

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That rhetoric about human rights is a lot of BS and wasted time. Business is one thing and ideology is another; they don't mix.

We don't like it, but we all have to acknowledge that human rights means different things in different cultures. What Western societies consider fair, equitable and humane are considered too lenient in another culture.
Countries like Saudi Arabia and China protect themselves against 'people power' which they believe will undermine the power of the rulers and cause chaos in the country. Like it does in Western societies.
A sovereign nation makes its own laws. The people know the law. They would be wise to obey the law if they don't want to be punished.

Yes, I believe human rights are important and that regimes like Saudi Arabia are barbaric but what right have we to dictate our standards to them?

There's too much world wide interference in what other countries do. It's not up to any society to interfere with another as long as the 'other' is not affecting us. Sound cold-hearted? Yes, but it makes sense. Interference in affairs that do not concern us directly is one of the causes of world conflict.
When I go to a store to buy a big sharp knife they don't ask me if I promise not to use it to slit somebody's throat!
If we are going to manufacture and sell military supplies to other countries fine. Do it without a bunch of empty promises to not use it. What the hell do you think countries buy arms for?
If we want to negotiate about human rights, do that on a diplomatic basis, not as part of a trade deal.

Trudeau is the hypocrite here on two levels; 1) He criticized the deal when the Conservatives were making it and advised against it. and 2) he is not transparent and open any more than the Conservatives were.
 

captain morgan

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I guess you arseholes forget that harper promised honest, open and transparent government also. How''d that work out ?

So many bitter tears.

... Add 1 more to the list of usual suspects

I guess we'll see after his nine plus, wha ?

Doubtful... Trudeau-lite just can't hold a job for very long, can he?

Failed snow-board instructor...
Failed part-time dwama school teacher....
Failed attempt at an MA....

You gonna blame Harper when Justin fails at this too?
 
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davesmom

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Our country needs the trade and the money. That's the bottom line.
Not to worry, you human rights advocates - Trudeau will just smile and give the Saudi kind a big hug and all will end well. Sunny days, my friends, don't you know?