Conference to Expose 9/11 & War on Terror

DurkaDurka

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I am heartened to see this conferance is happening. So many of the unanswered questions about 9/11 and going to iraq have become matters of jokes and teasing, yet they are the most important questions of our time.

Why are we -Canada - in Afghanistan? Was 9/11 a big part of that reason? Is harper a criminal for associating/supporting Bush2? This conferance is dealing with very serious mattters.

The teasing, ["tin foil hats"] from people like DorkaDorka, are actually 'directions for how to talk about 9/11 and the War on Terror' that have been planted into their minds by the mass media. Dorka doesn't really want to tease you, he just feels compleed to do it because he is especially weak minded, hence the brainwashing works well on him. [no, this is not a joke, it just sounds like it to some people]

Karlin,
" Oh, what a wonderfulllllll worrrrrrrrrrld "

Karlin, forgive me for not taking such a serious conference seriously. On the topic of being weak minded, is there a loony left wing conspiracy you don't support in one way or another? You claim to be so enlightened because you don't listen to the "mass media" yet you take the words of every loony left web site as fact? You are every bit as brainwashed as the rest of the population.

BTW, say hi to your Mom for me.
 

wallyj

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Don't pay any attention to the scarecrow.He is not what he seems to be.Hide children,hide,the bushman is gonna eat your brain. .....MMMM brains,so hard to find in liberal land.
 

MikeyDB

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Many people have decided that the truth of the September event is prima facie....that there is no need for any further study or dialogue or re-visiting of the event...

If there are people with questions....are those convinced of their perspectives and opinions unwilling or unable to entertain a re-examination?

And if unwilling and unable...why?

It seems to me that this will be a difficult undertaking. It will serve the purpose of putting the tin-foil-hat-brigade to rest once and for all....so why not?

If we forget that this still raw and bleeding wound suffered by not only those directly involved on that dark day but millions around the world....we will be doing a disservice to the many who gave their lives in what they believed to be a legitimate effort to respond to a cowardly act.

As long as we are sensitive to the direct victims of this horrendous day, I don't understand why there's opposition to the re-examination.

If the re-exam doesn't satisfy the conspiracy-theorists nothing will. If there is doubt sown as a result of the re-examination, we are left with more questions demanding answers.

What does an enlightened society want?

Accept without question.....

Question with factual informed data....

Forget the whole thing....
 

DurkaDurka

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I wonder if these nice fellas will be showing up at the tin foil conference?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/0716200...atic_fringe_columnists_andrea_peyser.htm?fark


9/11 SKEPTICS' LUNATIC FRINGE

TARGETS VICTIM'S WIDOW




July 16, 2007 -- THIS time, they've gone too far. A group of 9/11 conspiracy theorists - whackos who deny that jumbo jets brought down the World Trade Center - is on the attack. But their latest target isn't the government, which they claim destroyed the buildings with explosives. They're using a vicious Internet assault to pick on an elderly widow.
"They're dirty sons of bastards! They are not real men," feisty Ellen Mariani, 69, told me. Ellen lost her husband aboard United 175 on Sept. 11, 2001.
"They have no respect for women, no respect for the dead and no respect for little children who now have been orphaned."
Ellen is the subject of a blistering battering on the Web site of an outfit that calls itself "9/11 Researchers." While conspiracy theories are nothing new - Rosie O'Donnell gave voice on "The View" to the belief the government was involved �- these bozos blast fellow conspiracy groups for not going far enough.
On their Web site, Ellen's current, private home address is listed for every whack job to see. There also is "evidence" that her husband helped plan the attacks.
How could a retired, 58-year-old deliveryman help plan the destruction of the Twin Towers? The proof, presented as a kind of "gotcha!" smoking gun, is strikingly shallow.
Linked to the Web site is a copy of a deed transferring her husband's real property to Ellen. He took it out on July 26, 2001, 47 days before the trade center was destroyed.
As further "proof" that Louis Mariani - who went by his middle name, Neil - was involved, the Web site posts the lease transferring management rights of the World Trade Center to Larry Silverstein. The lease was taken out two days before Louis Mariani put his property in Ellen's name. Aha!
Confused? So am I.
The Web site is the work of a Rick Siegel, who hawks DVDs that purport to prove the trade center's destruction was an inside job. He is partners with Nico Haupt, who is known for sending blistering e-mail rants to trade-center survivors.
My attempts to reach both men were fruitless.
The odd thing is that the loonies are picking on Ellen. She has been outspoken in insisting that the government knows more about the attacks than it is admitting. But a source familiar with the groups says they tend to target people who fall short of their extreme anti-Semitic, anti-everything views.
On Sept. 11, 2001, Neil, Ellen's husband of 13 years, boarded United 175 from Boston, bound for the wedding of Ellen's daughter. Ellen was flying separately because she had booked her flight months before, and it was full.
She's refused to take a dime from the fund that compensates victims.
"Could you go to sleep at night, knowing you took money for your husband's death?" she asks.
"Try to eat alone. Try to watch programs you both liked on TV without feeling guilty. Try to go to sleep at night while you don't have your honey with you. This is the hell I go through every day.
"I don't need evil people attacking me."
It's gone far enough.
 

Colpy

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Here are some facts for you:

1. Controled demolition of tall buildings is so complicated only a very few people on earth have the competency to attempt it.

2. When these experts DO attempt it, they first gut the building.....a huge, labour-intensive job that requires they strip insulation away from beams, cut or remove beams, etc.

3. The tallest building EVER demolished in this fashion was 47 stories high.....the WTC was 110......

4. When these experts demolish a building, it collapses from the BOTTOM UP! The WTC collapsed from point of impact.......

The conspiracy theorists are well deserving of their tinfoil hats...........the idea that the WTC was demolished by explosives is lunacy.
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Just the Facts

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Have you seen this video?

There is so much wrong in that video I wouldn't know where to start discussing it. Let's just summarize with a :laughing3:

Just to follow up on Colpy's post, if it was a controlled demolition, the demolishers will never work again!! :laughing6:

It didn't exactly fall on it's own footprint and disintegrate in mid-air as suggested, it took out a bunch of neighboring buildings and left a debris pile - I forget how much - but many stories high.

Paper "mysteriously" blowing in the wind. My sides are still hurting from that one! :laughing5:

That guy's got whack-job written all over him.
 

Logic 7

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Here are some facts for you:

1. Controled demolition of tall buildings is so complicated only a very few people on earth have the competency to attempt it.

2. When these experts DO attempt it, they first gut the building.....a huge, labour-intensive job that requires they strip insulation away from beams, cut or remove beams, etc.

3. The tallest building EVER demolished in this fashion was 47 stories high.....the WTC was 110......

4. When these experts demolish a building, it collapses from the BOTTOM UP! The WTC collapsed from point of impact.......

The conspiracy theorists are well deserving of their tinfoil hats...........the idea that the WTC was demolished by explosives is lunacy.
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WTC didnt collapse from the point of impact, seimic records at 2.3 and 2.1 from columbia university was recorded before each collapse, where police reports shows there was explosion in the bottom of the building before each collapse, here is photo that proves wtc were brought down with explosive where you clearly see puff going out of the building .


 

Logic 7

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Here is another one, the second crash....












Now this is the cnn shot.





Now colpy, explain to me, why the building on the left on that video, is higher than the plane? how come we don't see the same thing on the other photo?


because it is fake, just like 9-11 was an inside job.
 

Logic 7

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Where is the building of cnn video shot?


:roll: now , you propabaly understand why, i laugh really hard at those who believe in this stupid war on terror. pathetic, i should say.
 

iARTthere4iam

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Logic,

What is your point? I am puzzled by the photos...What are you trying to show here?

The photos are obviously from different angles and have different buildings in the shots.
 

Phil B

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Logic,

What is your point? I am puzzled by the photos...What are you trying to show here?

The photos are obviously from different angles and have different buildings in the shots.

If its a battle of wits you want, at least have the decency to not fight a unarmed man!
 

Pangloss

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Tinfoil is on sale all over the world. That is proof that I am right and will use two completely contradictory statements to prove my point.A proof is a good proof when it is proven to be a proof.

That last sentence. . .didn't Cretien say that? If so - good quote!

Pangloss
 

Pangloss

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Y'know, I heard it was Rush Limbaugh and Star Jones humping in the photocopier room - if that can't take down a 110 story building nothing can!

Well, except maybe a giant flying bomb, maybe something like a fully-fueled airplane. . .

I think I'm on to something here.

Pangloss
 

Logic 7

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Logic,

What is your point? I am puzzled by the photos...What are you trying to show here?

The photos are obviously from different angles and have different buildings in the shots.



Exactly, but what is the differences with cnn video shot?


In Cnn, the plane goes lower than the building on the left, and then maybe a second later , it crashed into the world trade center, cnn is the only one who shows that building higher than the second plane path.
 

Toro

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And did you notice that the angle of the plane in Logic's first photo is at 46 degrees whereas in the second, its clearly 43 degrees!

Obviously, CNN is part of some huge nefarious plot.
 

Albertabound

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Does anyone have a comment on the iron beams that are cut at 45 degree angles or you all believe iron can actually do that. You can destroy a million buildings and never find a piece of iron like that.