Combat Santa Christmas Card from Abbotsford PD, POLL

Is the Christmas card appropriate?

  • Offensive?

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Inoffensive?

    Votes: 7 41.2%
  • Pfffffb!

    Votes: 10 58.8%

  • Total voters
    17

petros

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The Abbotsford Police Department is being naughty, not nice, say taxpayers — by sending greeting cards of a gun-toting Santa to bad guys this Christmas.

None other than Abbotsford police Chief Bob Rich poses as a heavily armed, Christmas-card Santa, with the title, “Which list will you be on next year?”

The violent Santa image immediately provoked predictable concern — which is exactly the point, says Const. Ian MacDonald.
“We want people to pay attention,” said MacDonald. “ ... We want them to open up the card.”

The cards are being sent to gang members, prolific offenders and property offenders this holiday season as part of Operation Resolution, with a help line for criminals wanting to turn their life around.

“We do receive calls regularly from gang-involved people who want to get out,” said MacDonald.

Last week the APD got its own Christmas present — a Statistics Canada report that showed Abbotsford has gone from Canada’s murder capital in 2008 and 2009 to its current standing as one of the statistically safest big cities in Canada.

“Last week was the good news, and people were asking me how we were going to be innovative, and keep the momentum,” said MacDonald, whose department is closing in on its goal of a 50-per-cent crime reduction over the five-year period of 2008 to 2013. “We’re hoping people will read it, make a call, and pick a different trajectory for 2013.”

The Santa cards provoked an immediate response on The Province’s Facebook page:

“This is terrible,” wrote Kelly Scarsbrook. “Using the image of Santa with guns is just plain wrong.”

Mike Schweer was concerned about tax money being spent on Christmas cards: “Living in Abbotsford I think my tax dollars could be better spent.”

Rich said he knew going in that the campaign would be controversial — and probably garner media coverage.

“We hoped that would happen,” said Rich. “We’re not going to rest on our laurels. A little controversy can really help.”

Rich said he donned standard Emergency Response Team gear — Kevlar helmet, ballistics vest, semi-automatic rifle, chest-mounted handgun and two magazines — for the Santa campaign.

Rich explained there were two versions of the card sent out — the Santa cover with a Yuletide greeting for business associates, and the gang helpline number sent to about 100 associates of a different stripe.

“We sent the card to people who are involved in property crime, people we deal with on an ongoing basis, people involved in the drug and gang world.

“We thought if we sent out a thought-provoking message, that people might think about going home to a safe place at Christmas.

“You can get out, you can be safe, but you have to make a choice.”

Rich didn’t have an exact figure but said the campaign cost “significantly less than $1,000.”

Allan Asaph, executive director of the Abbotsford Chamber of Commerce, saluted Rich and his department’s bid to clean up the community.

“Sometimes a little bit of humour can help you get a difficult message across,” said Asaph. “It’s taking a proactive stand, not just reacting.

“The police officers are the ones who are making the difference.”

Along with the detractors, some Province Facebook friends gave the Santa campaign a thumbs-up.

“Good tactic,” wrote Stephen Jacura. “It’s not the card itself that makes the statement, it’s the act of sending the card.”

Added Dave Brown: “It would only bother me if I was on the naughty list.”



 

petros

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If they went out to the public, I'd have raised an eyebrow, but since they are going to dirtbags, I think it's great.
 

Ron in Regina

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Apr 9, 2008
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Not sure how it works, but I believe that even when running a dirtbags name
through CPIC, they have to have a justifiable reason. I wonder if this'll come
back to bite that police force in the backside over an 'invasion of privacy' or
something along those lines?
 

petros

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I was thinking more along the lines of harassment but I'm sure they had their legal beagles give it a thumbs up.
 

CDNBear

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Sep 24, 2006
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Last week the APD got its own Christmas present — a Statistics Canada report that showed Abbotsford has gone from Canada’s murder capital in 2008 and 2009 to its current standing as one of the statistically safest big cities in Canada.

Not to shabby for low brow meatheads.
 

SLM

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Mar 5, 2011
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Me too. I had to include that option for reality's sake.

I voted that too. Mostly because I've always wanted to vote Pfffb in a poll and this is the first chance I've ever been given to do so.

Thank you for making that a reality. Lol.

As to the OP, well what the hell, why not? They're going to, at some point, spend money on some type of public relations for the programs they run, might as well be seasonal and with a bit of fun to it.
 

damngrumpy

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Mar 16, 2005
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Actually its not a waste of money and it serves a useful purpose. The police did issue the cards to
specific individuals who are less than stellar citizens. They did it under an educational program
though as they offer a phone number for a help line should someone want to end their time in crime.
Now if they chose to continue their naughty ways, there is no excuse as to why they shouldn't throw
the book at them.
Besides people have to lighten up a bit, we are sounding more and more like Americans complaining
that someones rights are violated while they use all kinds of methods to prevent others from having
their rights enforced.
 

PoliticalNick

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I was thinking more along the lines of harassment but I'm sure they had their legal beagles give it a thumbs up.

I wouldn't count on that.

As to the OP, well what the hell, why not? They're going to, at some point, spend money on some type of public relations for the programs they run, might as well be seasonal and with a bit of fun to it.

I don't think it is within the mandate of any police force to do public relations. Serve and protect the public yes, but spend tax money on media spin to make themselves appear better, well if they did their jobs properly at all times they would not need public relations.
 

shadowshiv

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I didn't find it offensive at all. Too many people cry "offensive!" far too often.
 

SLM

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I don't think it is within the mandate of any police force to do public relations. Serve and protect the public yes, but spend tax money on media spin to make themselves appear better, well if they did their jobs properly at all times they would not need public relations.

Bull, they promote community awareness programs all the time. Otherwise how the hell would the community know about them? I shouldn't have used the term 'public relations' because it's not about promoting themselves, it's about awareness, so my bad for that. But you have such a dim view of police forces I doubt it would have made a difference what term I had used in my original post.

I didn't find it offensive at all. Too many people cry "offensive!" far too often.

Far, far too often and I personally really wish they'd shut up about it.
 

CDNBear

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I don't think it is within the mandate of any police force to do public relations.
It's an integral part of police services.
Serve and protect the public yes, but spend tax money on media spin to make themselves appear better...
Last week the APD got its own Christmas present — a Statistics Canada report that showed Abbotsford has gone from Canada’s murder capital in 2008 and 2009 to its current standing as one of the statistically safest big cities in Canada.

It appears they're doing a fine job, while maintaining a public relations policy.

... well if they did their jobs properly at all times they would not need public relations.
You obviously don't know what the bulk of most police services boards public relations policies consist of.

I'm not surprised.