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Zipperfish

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No that would be Nascar .
American football is a great game compared to the cry ball the rest of the world plays .
Great we have world cup up coming so we get to watch players from the world over withering on the ground in extreme pain seconds before running the length of the field .

Yeah, 100-0 or whatever the score was. very entertaining use of the six and half hours the game took. lol
 

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In much of the world, "sports" means going out, running around, and getting your heart rate up.

In Europe and North America, "sports" means sitting on the couch eating fatty snacks and drinking beer.


And that's why all you Yanks and Canucks are lard-buckets.

And by the way, Blackloaf, the only decent footballer England ever had was a drunk, a druggie, a woman beater, and Irish.

But he was the Best.



Best was Northern Irish, not English.
 

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And that's why all you Yanks and Canucks are lard-buckets.






Best was Northern Irish, not English.
Doesn't stop the English side from wearing the one, single, lonely little World Cup star that Irishman won for them.
 

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Hallelujah! I sounds like karma that the people whole stole this land from the natives are having someone else steal it from them. Cosmic justice? Me thinks so.

Ownership of anything is a man-made construct.... With respect to your post above, one might ask how and/or if that ownership was determined in the first place.. Hell, one might ask who the natives 'acquired' that land from in the first place?





That proves my point.


That denziens in the UK are amongst the fattest in the world?
 

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In much of the world, "sports" means going out, running around, and getting your heart rate up.

In Europe and North America, "sports" means sitting on the couch eating fatty snacks and drinking beer.

And by the way, Blackloaf, the only decent footballer England ever had was a drunk, a druggie, a woman beater, and Irish.

But he was the Best.
You forgot mooner .
 

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Multiculturalism and national unity are incompatible. Multiculturalism depends on diversity. Unity depends on assimilation. Diversity and assimilation are opposites that can't coexist. In California assimilation is dead. The same is becoming true throughout America. The result is tribalism.

Canada has multiculturalism without unity except in a very superficial sense. Canadians like being nice. That's not enough to hold a country together when it experiences a prolonged period of suffering and tragedy.

The American people were immigrants who came in and replaced the culture before them. Now immigrants are coming in and replacing their culture, just as history shows happens to virtually every culture in existence. Nothing stays the same. That's the nature of humanity.



as a freckled whitie who's had melanoma, I applaud this.



I've had great neighbours from just about every race and religion. I don't see how multiculturalism is a problem unless you're scared of it and only want to associate with people like yourself.
Yep. Evolution tends to favor the most adaptable. those preservationists and purists that want everything to stay the way they like things are in for a lot of disappointments. As, BT said, we will all eventually be tan colored. But that is just a superficial change and there will be much deeper changes. In the meantime, there will be a struggle on many sides but the sooner people realize that we are not all homogeneous and shouldn't "all be like us" the better. Evolution takes time and forcing it usually backfires badly.
 

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In much of the world, "sports" means going out, running around, and getting your heart rate up.

In Europe and North America, "sports" means sitting on the couch eating fatty snacks and drinking beer.

And by the way, Blackloaf, the only decent footballer England ever had was a drunk, a druggie, a woman beater, and Irish.

But he was the Best.
Rooney is better.
 

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Maybe the problem is not with multiculturalism but with nations. Humans have been tribal for a million years or more and trying to live in artificially large societies has never really worked for us. We become slaves to societies ruled by the rich and who get rich by waging war on other countries and con their young people to go out and kill and die so the rich can get richer. At least in tribal societies there was a more cooperative effort, but with societies people are just slaves and fodder for the machine.

I really don't think we are supposed to live at such close quarters with so many people. If our DNA is a blueprint of our evolutionary history, then living the way we do is a very recent development and humans have not adjusted to it yet. People are suffering from crowded rat syndrome and the tensions are palpable. I am surprised that there is not more mass killings, murders and serious crime. I'm even more surprised that people's heads don't just explode from all the pressure they have to live under in this society.

I tend to agree with most of your points. I think "artificial" is the operative word.

no i am not merely referring to conquering. America was built by people who threw away what they knew, to travel to a new country, across the world, to start over. It was built upon culture clashes. Brits and French, whites and natives, slave rebellions, wars overseas, and immigrants battling immigrants for superiority. It's all laced into the history of the US. So the newest of the clashes is taking place, so what? It's not new, it's not unique. It's perfectly American.
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I've stopped thinking of myself as American. Lots of people on the right have done the same thing. It's not our country any longer. The old America had a vibrant middle class. In the new America the middle class is dying. How can that be a good thing?


Multiculturalism can't produce national unity anymore than it can break it. Growing up, we lived side by side, happy and proud, regardless of our differences. We were all simply Canadian. We had 5 different churches, and had 4 cultural centres, in a town of only 2000 people. Bigger centres had even more churches and cultural centres, as you could expect.[/QUOTE]

All polities need a unifying principle or they come apart when stressed or traumatized.
 

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Ownership of anything is a man-made construct.... With respect to your post above, one might ask how and/or if that ownership was determined in the first place.. Hell, one might ask who the natives 'acquired' that land from in the first place?
Actually, most natives were aware that they didn't own the land, it was the reverse because no-one out-survives the ground they live on. :) We just borrow it for a while. SSome shared their borrowed land and some were forced to scoot off it.

That denziens in the UK are amongst the fattest in the world?
lol Well. at least according to the graph they are. Not much skinnier than the Uhmarcns.
 

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It didn't look so great to me on Sunday night. The most tedious game on planet Earth. So boring they need a pop concert to liven things up.

What are the stats? I think it's something like an average of 11 minutes of actual gameplay and 100 minutes of TV commercials in three hours of the average NFL match.

11 minutes of actual gameplay, and you are trying to telling me that it's an exciting sport?


You can actually watch actual sport taking place during football matches. Watching an NFL "game" is mainly just watching laxative commercials and groups of men in Kevlar body armour standing around twiddling their thumbs. And even the 11 minutes of actual gameplay is boring, entailing a player catching the ball and then running with it for three yards.

Sporting excitement there isn't.

Ever watch a baseball game?
 

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Partly true. But our cultures also evolved, integrated in some ways, and remained different in others. I grant your point that things are vastly different from what they were, but it's an overstatement to say that Shawnee culture (or other Indian cultures) are dead just because it's not what it was in 1607.

The Shawnee are a remnant population. The Shawnee in some ways remind me of the Yue of Guangdong and Hunan provinces in China. They were once a distinct people. They were conquered by the Han and Sinicized. Look at the original people of Taishan County in Guangdong. They were conquered by the Sze Yup group of Han from central China. Sze Yup settlers followed. The original Taishanese were overwhelmed like the Shawnee. Their culture was demoted and ceased to exist. Their genes were mixed with those of their conquerors. The Taishanese now think of themselves as Sze Yup, and the Yue now think of themselves as Han. Similarly, the Shawnee now think of themselves as American despite the fact that their greatest hero died fighting Americans.


Of course it's happening in California. The Silicon Valley culture and the resurgence of San Francisco are just two examples of new, non-gangbanger cultures. You're just upset because it's not American Graffiti. The amusing part is that the American Graffiti culture of the 50s was new and unlike previous culture. And just as many terrified, surly grouches screamed that America was going to the dogs.

I have the advantage of having lived in California since Custer was a lieutenant. The Mestizos from Mexico and Central America as a group are not of the same caliber as immigrants from Guangdong, Tonkin or Punjab. The Mestizos who come here work hard, love their families, and place little value on education. That's the primary reason California's public schools rank 47th out of fifty states. Han, Viets, Cham and Punjabis have cultural characteristics that place a high value on educational excellence. That's why they succeed in school. In contrast illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America come here with exceptionally low levels of social and human capital. NEA - The Crisis in the Education of Latino Students

The illegals come to improve their lives by taking low skilled jobs in which they work themselves to death. And those jobs do improve their lives compared to the conditions they faced in their homelands. They also provide the slave labor needed by Big Business, and the future votes needed by the American left. In the process American workers are denied entry level jobs, and overall wages are depressed artificially.

The illegals have difficulty in raising their children because the illegals are working most of the time. Their children aren't willing to perform the same work, but lack the social and human capital necessary to better themselves. That's where the gangs come in. The children become vatos and putas trapped in a world that isn't fully Mestizo and really isn't American. They become a separate people.

Silicon Valley has a huge population of ignorant and impoverished Mestizos. They don't work in high tech. Silicon Valley is doing well for educated whites, Indians, Vietnamese and Han who have the human and social capital necessary to fit in. Btw, many of the Indians and East Asians in Silicon Valley are brought in by the high tech companies on H1B1 visas in order to hold down wages among Americans. When I was much younger Silicon Valley was more than a headquarters and research hub. It actually had good manufacturing jobs for middle class and working class people. Those manufacturing jobs have been outsourced overseas.

Don't talk to me about San Francisco. The city has been gentrified. There was once a vibrant African American population in SF. Most no longer can afford to live in SF. The Black population in the city has dwindled to six percent. The latino population in SF is only fifteen percent in a state where the latino population is almost forty five percent. That fifteen percent live in abject poverty in the Tenderloin District. SF is a city dominated by a population of Chinese and upscale whites. Google, Yahoo and other Silicon Valley high tech companies bring in buses to SF every morning, pick up their workers, and drop them off at the end of the day. Those workers have gentrified much of SF, and priced working class and middle class people out of the housing and rental markets. That's why the city has been transformed.

I don't live in the world of American Graffiti. My wife is Sze Yup. I live in a fused world of Confucianism, George Meany, John Wayne, John Muir, and John Steinbeck. There aren't a whole lot of people with my perspective.
 

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The Shawnee are a remnant population. The Shawnee in some ways remind me of the Yue of Guangdong and Hunan provinces in China. They were once a distinct people. They were conquered by the Han and Sinicized. Look at the original people of Taishan County in Guangdong. They were conquered by the Sze Yup group of Han from central China. Sze Yup settlers followed. The original Taishanese were overwhelmed like the Shawnee. Their culture was demoted and ceased to exist. Their genes were mixed with those of their conquerors. The Taishanese now think of themselves as Sze Yup, and the Yue now think of themselves as Han. Similarly, the Shawnee now think of themselves as American despite the fact that their greatest hero died fighting Americans.




I have the advantage of having lived in California since Custer was a lieutenant. The Mestizos from Mexico and Central America as a group are not of the same caliber as immigrants from Guangdong, Tonkin or Punjab. The Mestizos who come here work hard, love their families, and place little value on education. That's the primary reason California's public schools rank 47th out of fifty states. Han, Viets, Cham and Punjabis have cultural characteristics that place a high value on educational excellence. That's why they succeed in school. In contrast illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America come here with exceptionally low levels of social and human capital. NEA - The Crisis in the Education of Latino Students

The illegals come to improve their lives by taking low skilled jobs in which they work themselves to death. And those jobs do improve their lives compared to the conditions they faced in their homelands. They also provide the slave labor needed by Big Business, and the future votes needed by the American left. In the process American workers are denied entry level jobs, and overall wages are depressed artificially.

The illegals have difficulty in raising their children because the illegals are working most of the time. Their children aren't willing to perform the same work, but lack the social and human capital necessary to better themselves. That's where the gangs come in. The children become vatos and putas trapped in a world that isn't fully Mestizo and really isn't American. They become a separate people.

Silicon Valley has a huge population of ignorant and impoverished Mestizos. They don't work in high tech. Silicon Valley is doing well for educated whites, Indians, Vietnamese and Han who have the human and social capital necessary to fit in. Btw, many of the Indians and East Asians in Silicon Valley are brought in by the high tech companies on H1B1 visas in order to hold down wages among Americans. When I was much younger Silicon Valley was more than a headquarters and research hub. It actually had good manufacturing jobs for middle class and working class people. Those manufacturing jobs have been outsourced overseas.

Don't talk to me about San Francisco. The city has been gentrified. There was once a vibrant African American population in SF. Most no longer can afford to live in SF. The Black population in the city has dwindled to six percent. The latino population in SF is only fifteen percent in a state where the latino population is almost forty five percent. That fifteen percent live in abject poverty in the Tenderloin District. SF is a city dominated by a population of Chinese and upscale whites. Google, Yahoo and other Silicon Valley high tech companies bring in buses to SF every morning, pick up their workers, and drop them off at the end of the day. Those workers have gentrified much of SF, and priced working class and middle class people out of the housing and rental markets. That's why the city has been transformed.
Even mountains and rocks can't remain static. And humanity changes a lot faster than mountains and rocks.

I don't live in the world of American Graffiti. My wife is Sze Yup. I live in a fused world of Confucianism, George Meany, John Wayne, John Muir, and John Steinbeck. There aren't a whole lot of people with my perspective.
Probably none with exactly your perspective.