Clueless CNN reporters are shocked at rape coverage backlash

[CDNBear]

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:roll:... If you can't handle a little adult discussion Gh, maybe you should join gopher, jamesbondo and the old medic in a sandbox somewhere.

 

[gerryh]

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:roll:... If you can't handle a little adult discussion Gh, maybe you should join gopher, jamesbondo and the old medic in a sandbox somewhere.

Your asinine, juvenile support of the rapist is far from adult. The thumbs down is the most "adult" thing I can do at this time without risking getting timed out or banned. So, go fu ck yourself.

 

[CDNBear]

Your asinine, juvenile support of the rapist is far from adult.

You should learn to read.

The thumbs down is the most "adult" thing I can do at this time without risking getting timed out or banned. So, go fu ck yourself.

Nothing you have done or said is adult in anyway shape or form. More like emotional and reactionary.

Grow up.

 

[gerryh]

Maybe you should learn to read.

Nothing you have done or said is adult in anyway shape or form.

Grow up.

I have no problem reading. This entire thread you have showed your support for the rapists by continuing to try and find fault with the victim. It has gone beyond devils advocate. When it comes to rape, there is no fault that can be assigned to the victim, period, end of story. It is ALL on the useless scum that does the raping, and in this case, the useless excuses that allowed it, hid it, blamed the girl, down played the seriousness, etc.


This IS black and white.

 

[CDNBear]

I have no problem reading. This entire thread you have showed your support for the rapists by continuing to try and find fault with the victim. It has gone beyond devils advocate. When it comes to rape, there is no fault that can be assigned to the victim, period, end of story. It is ALL on the useless scum that does the raping, and in this case, the useless excuses that allowed it, hid it, blamed the girl, down played the seriousness, etc.

This IS black and white.

Gawd forbid anyone take up the contrary. We should all just sit around agreeing with each other and mentally masturbating.

Grow up, or join the rest of the ignorant children in a sandbox somewhere sulking.

 

[gerryh]

Gawd forbid anyone take up the contrary. We should all just sit around agreeing with each other and mentally masturbating.

Bullshyte. Your stance is repulsive and gives power to the rapists and those that support them. If this is NOT your stance, then all you are doing is trolling to pick an argument for argument sake and nothing more.

Grow up, or join the rest of the ignorant children in a sandbox somewhere sulking.

It is you that is the ignorant one. Any time some one vehemently disagrees with you, you take the childish route like you have this time. "I" gave you thumbs down on your posts only so that the thread did not get ugly, what do you do.... like a little fu cking kid.... you cut a paste those thumbs down to start the "look what he did" crap. True bear form. So let's get it straight who belongs in the "sand box".

 

[captain morgan]

This entire thread you have showed your support for the rapists by continuing to try and find fault with the victim.

I fail to see in any of the contributions from CB that express 'support' for the convicted.

In stifling even the opportunity to ask any questions that focus on the victim is highly reminiscient of the circus that was mainstream with Senator McCarthy.

 

[gerryh]

I fail to see in any of the contributions from CB that express 'support' for the convicted.

In stifling even the opportunity to ask any questions that focus on the victim is highly reminiscient of the circus that was mainstream with Senator McCarthy.

any time you point the finger at the victim, you take away some culpability from the perp. It matters not what the crime is.

 

[CDNBear]

Bullshyte. Your stance is repulsive and gives power to the rapists and those that support them. If this is NOT your stance, then all you are doing is trolling to pick an argument for argument sake and nothing more.

Or just trying to have a discussion from a different perspective.

Since you're obviously trying to attack me, instead of even attempting to engage in a discussion, you are the troll here.

It is you that is the ignorant one.

The facts dictate otherwise.

Any time some one vehemently disagrees with you, you take the childish route like you have this time.

Absolutely false. Everyone has disagreed with me, from wulfie to SLM.

I haven't attacked them.

Again, the facts disprove your claims.

"I" gave you thumbs down on your posts only so that the thread did not get ugly, what do you do.... like a little fu cking kid.... you cut a paste those thumbs down to start the "look what he did" crap. True bear form. So let's get it straight who belongs in the "sand box".

I did that to expose the childish emotion and lack of reason this topic draws.

Feel free to wallow in your sandbox.

Let me know when you are capable of an adult conversation.

 

[Liberalman]

In the old days I did have a few drunken times however I was never involved in something
vile like this. There was no excuse for this behaviour they deserve lengthy prison terms and
be added to the sexual abusers list for life. I have no sympathy for them at all.

Some people can’t handle their liquor especially the young who are just starting to drink. Some people can’t even remember what they did during their drunken romp. People got killed by drunk drivers and other people got killed by falling off their high-rise balconies because they were too drunk.

We have to feel sorry for those two young lives that will have to sacrifice their freedoms for their mistake and we have to feel sorry for the victim who got violated which is a shame because when one thinks about it who is really at fault here? Societies right to get drunk or people that support the liquor companies right to exist?

I can see the reporter’s outrage and the people that fault the reporter.

The real problem is the liquor, which will never disappear just because they tried prohibition in history and it failed because too many people were hooked on the stuff and government were losing a large revenue source so this will be an ongoing problem.
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[CDNBear]

any time you point the finger at the victim, you take away some culpability from the perp. It matters not what the crime is.

I disagree.

So do insurance companies.

 

[captain morgan]

any time you point the finger at the victim, you take away some culpability from the perp. It matters not what the crime is.

Not at all... The fact that this event was reviewed in a Court necessitated that the questions be asked - all of them.

As per the verdict, the perps were found fully culpable despite the analysis being engaged.

I agree with what Bear has forwarded in this analysis - something is hinky... That said; my making that comment does not imply support for rape or rapists. In this specific case, I find the actions of the convicted as base and loathsome, but that subjective feeling on my part does not justify omitting the analysis of the entire scope of the events, including those events that lead up to the abuse and the victim.

 

[wulfie68]

The real problem is the liquor, which will never disappear just because they tried prohibition in history and it failed because too many people were hooked on the stuff and government were losing a large revenue source so this will be an ongoing problem.

No its not the fault of the liquor and saying so is a cop out.

There is a problem in teaching young people to drink responsibly (just as there is in getting some adults to do so as well) and in some ways, as I stated in my initial post on this thread, our laws accentuate and exaggerate the problem. We make drinking a big deal and teens being teens see it as a way to feed their rebellious streak.

And Gerry, I disagree with your assessment of CDNBear's posts. The way I read them is him challenging some of our assertions and forcing us to confront them: in the end I am comfotr. I don't agree with some of the angles he looks at the issue but reasoned conversation is how we gain understanding for differing perspectives, not hostility and antagonism.

 

[gerryh]

sorry, putting any amount of blame on a rape victim is loathsome. Insinuating that any amount of blame should or could be assigned to a rape victim is loathsome. Mitigating the blame in any way assigned to the perp is loathsome. It is beyond disgusting to think how ANYONE could even consider a rape victim of being responsible for the rape in any way.

 

[CDNBear]

sorry, putting any amount of blame on a rape victim is loathsome. Insinuating that any amount of blame should or could be assigned to a rape victim is loathsome. Mitigating the blame in any way assigned to the perp is loathsome. It is beyond disgusting to think how ANYONE could even consider a rape victim of being responsible for the rape in any way.

That's fine, I think it's beyond ignorant to ignore the fact that a religious leader sheltered and protected pedophiles, and because of his position, is considered beyond the grasp of the law.

But I don't run around neg rep'ing people for it, or throwing hissy fits.

BTW: If you think I was a horrible human being in this thread, I'd avoid the Stuckless thread altogether.

 

[karrie]

I disagree.

So do insurance companies.

How do insurance companies point the finger at victims of crimes?

 

[captain morgan]

How do insurance companies point the finger at victims of crimes?

They assess responsibility as deemed reasonable

 

[karrie]

I've seen crime prevention attempt to address behaviour with people. "Do this to prevent that.", but I can't think of a time I've seen the law or insurance go after victims of crime, to hold them responsible for having been victimized.

They assess responsibility as deemed reasonable

For victims of CRIME. Sorry, you'll have to give me some examples.

 

[captain morgan]

I've seen crime prevention attempt to address behaviour with people. "Do this to prevent that.", but I can't think of a time I've seen the law or insurance go after victims of crime, to hold them responsible for having been victimized.

Careless smoking causing a house fire might be an example... Driving drunk might be another

 

[gerryh]

Careless smoking causing a house fire might be an example... Driving drunk might be another

careless smoking is not a crime...... drunk driving is a crime and is victimless when no other person is involved. Try again.