Climate Change Is Freeing Ancient Infections From Their Icy Prisons

Hoof Hearted

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'For clarification purposes it was warmer 500 years ago with less ice than today."

Finally!. The answer to why Shakespeare wrote Hamlet in his boxers has been revealed!
 

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Nay, nay, that was because of Helga, the new hired help.

Vikings didn't farm. Various Scandanavians did.

"Viking" is not a people. It is a profession.
Saskatchewan is spelled differently.

It is also an 'art' and you can qualify for prizes at the supper to celebrate the end of the acting like migrants.
 

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I wonder if the plague that wiped out the Mammoth and Mastadon is going to return and wipe out the last of our Asian and African elephants? We're rather more mobile than our paleolithic ancestors were and we could spread it around the world in a matter of days, now.
 

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I wonder if the plague that wiped out the Mammoth and Mastadon is going to return and wipe out the last of our Asian and African elephants? We're rather more mobile than our paleolithic ancestors were and we could spread it around the world in a matter of days, now.

What makes you think it was a plague?
 

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What makes you think it was a plague?

It happened really quickly and all over the Northern hemisphere at once (except for a few, small isolated populations on Siberian islands). After hundreds of thousands of years, they just disappeared, everywhere. We may have been the disease vector, too spreading it across the Bering land bridge.
 

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Vikings didn't farm. Various Scandanavians did.

"Viking" is not a people. It is a profession.

Yeah Yeah Yeah. Popsicle?

I wonder if the plague that wiped out the Mammoth and Mastadon is going to return and wipe out the last of our Asian and African elephants? We're rather more mobile than our paleolithic ancestors were and we could spread it around the world in a matter of days, now.

It was loss of their high protein forage. I taught you that the other day.
 

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"Viking" roughly means "camping". That's barely a profession. Piracy is a better description of their trade.
 

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Yeah Yeah Yeah. Popsicle?



It was loss of their high protein forage. I taught you that the other day.

...all over North America, down to Mexico, across the Steppes and all over North-Western and Central Europe, probably right down to the Mediterranean lost all of it's forage at once?

A virulent disease makes more sense.

We've seen them happen to us. The native people who lived where I live now were the Wyndotte. They are extinct. Smallpox wiped them all out before the whites ever arrived in Southern Ontario.
 

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By analyzing the DNA of plants preserved in the permafrost during the ice age, the team concluded that the Arctic landscape was not a bleak, grassy prairie at all, but had a lush cover of small, nutritious plants called forbs – "things like poppies and buttercups and anemones, little flowering plants," said Zazula.

"And those might have been more high in proteins and other nutrients that were very important to sustaining the populations of large mammals."

Forbs include many plants that humans eat, including dandelion, sunflower, alfalfa, watercress, parsley and carrot.

...all over North America, down to Mexico, across the Steppes and all over North-Western and Central Europe, probably right down to the Mediterranean lost all of it's forage at once?

A virulent disease makes more sense.

We've seen them happen to us. The native people who lived where I live now were the Wyndotte. They are extinct. Smallpox wiped them all out before the whites ever arrived in Southern Ontario.

We wouldn't have elephants today.
 

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By analyzing the DNA of plants preserved in the permafrost during the ice age, the team concluded that the Arctic landscape was not a bleak, grassy prairie at all, but had a lush cover of small, nutritious plants called forbs – "things like poppies and buttercups and anemones, little flowering plants," said Zazula.

"And those might have been more high in proteins and other nutrients that were very important to sustaining the populations of large mammals."

Forbs include many plants that humans eat, including dandelion, sunflower, alfalfa, watercress, parsley and carrot.



We wouldn't have elephants today.
What you are saying about foliage disappearing a everywhere
I and then suddenly a re-appearing after the Mammoths are wiped out is total rubbish. It's someone's PhD thesis. Publish or perish.

http://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/did-virus-kill-off-mammoth/154711.article

BBC - Radio 4 - Frontiers 15/05/2002

p.s. You would have elephants today if they are resistant to the virus. It's a huge guess that we may have been the vector, too. It could very easily have been migrating birds (like the ones that started the great flu epidemic of 1919). Birds don't fly everywhere, just along corridors.

"Viking" comes from "vik," meaning "river." Because they sailed up rivers to do their thang.

They were a pestilence ... like those other Germans that sailed up our rivers ... the Angular Saxons.
 

Curious Cdn

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Nonsense. They were the greatest navigators and shipbuilders the world had ever seen.

Swung a mean axe, too.

At least, they didn't tell us that they were in India or China in the Vinland Sagas.

I grew up a few miles away from an old French settlement called "Lachine" .. or La Chine, if you would prefer. They were seriously fecking lost. As a matter for fact, the local Iroquois tried to make them into Mongolian Hot Pot.
 

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At least, they didn't tell us that they were in India or China in the Vinland Sagas.

I grew up a few miles away from an old French settlement called "Lachine" .. or La Chine, if you would prefer. They were seriously fecking lost. As a matter for fact, the local Iroquois tried to make them into Mongolian Hot Pot.
Ahem! Haudenosaunee, if you please, sir!