CIA boss names Bhutto 'killers'

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I have an article in my mouse I'd like to deposit where Beaver said something about Canada just being a pimpel on Sam's butt.
I guess, it wasn't this thread.:-?
 
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praxius I do see your point and that is another reason I dont believe in christianity. And yes there are lots of psyco women out there too..........I watched the Montel Williams show too women that beat their husbands, and in either way maybe we should just treat others as we want to be treated

That's how I try to live. Someone's faith doesn't determine how evil or how nice that person is.

From my new thread from the Documentary on Islamic Extremists being rehabed, most of these people who blow people up and kill Westerners because of who they are, are usually young recruits who have little or no education and have no real clue about their own relgion, and they end up learning from these extremists.

That's like me wanting to learn about Christianity, only to head to some side-off cult of the religion teaching me their views of the religion. Soon, before I know it, I cut my penis off and drank my poison to await my travel through space on a UFO.

^ These are the type of people who hit the news. The Moderate Islamics, just like the Moderate Christians are not the ones we have to worry about. We worry about Extremist Islamics who blow people up and take hostages, and we worry about Extremist Christians who kill abortion doctors, beat gays and hang black people from trees or burn crosses in their front yards.

Both religions have their ups and their downs. If we were going to try and take the time to figure out which religion is the worst, we'd only be splitting hairs.
 

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Naw.... You're a Canuck duck. Don't get to Syria anytime soon though....

Woof!
No desire!! I read the Arar story, that's why I also have no desire to travel to the USA... anything could happen to me!:roll: And my own Government wouldn't be willing to come to my aid, because they are totally under the slipper of Big Sam with Big stick!!
It almost makes me ill to read how Mr. Maxime Bernieris forced to retract the truth about WHO TORTURES.
I found this shameful retraction in the news: http://tinyurl.com/3cvzvk

"I regret the embarrassment caused by the public disclosure of the manual used in the department's torture awareness training," he said in a statement released early Saturday.
"It contains a list that wrongly includes some of our closest allies.
"I have directed that the manual be reviewed and rewritten. The manual is neither a policy document nor a statement of policy. As such, it does not convey the Government's views or positions."
Foreign Affairs used the manual as part of its torture awareness training -- something that stemmed from recommendations in the Arar inquiry.
Besides the U.S. prison for alleged terrorists on the island of Cuba, the manual also lists:

  • [*]Afghanistan;
    [*]China;
    [*]Egypt;
    [*]Iran;
    [*]Saudi Arabia;
    [*]Israel; and
    [*]Syria
Canadian Maher Arar was tortured in Syria after being "renditioned" there by the United States in 2002.
Canadian William Sampson was imprisoned and tortured in Saudi Arabia.
An uproar broke out last year when some Afghan militant detainees alleged they were tortured after Canadian forces turned them over to Afghan authorities.
The department mistakenly released the document to lawyers involved in a lawsuit centred on the alleged abuse of detainees in Afghanistan.
Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae told CTV Newsnet on Saturday that "this is not an exercise in political correctness. This is about being accurate."
David Wilkins, the United States' ambassador to Canada, wanted his country off the list.
Rae noted the United States's former attorney-general Alberto Gonzales was questioned at length by lawmakers over whether techniques like waterboarding -- having water pour over someone's covered face, simulating drowning -- constituted torture.
"It took Senator (John) McCain and Senator (Barack) Obama and others to be so clear, saying the United States' government position should be against torture -- full stop."
If there is clear, irrefutable evidence that a country has engaged in torture, it should be on the list, Rae said.
CTV's Roger Smith told Newsnet that groups like Amnesty International believe it's valid to have the U.S., Israel and Guantanamo Bay on the list.
"They believe the government has clearly caved into pressure," he said.
O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
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Shame on you, Harper Government!! You betrayed us! You make us bow and lick the boots of the Bush Clan!!
We can't let this happen! Ray and Dion, you must unite and bring this present government down. You once said you would!
 

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I won't! Although friends travel there all the time and find the American people friendly. Most of them oppose their own government, the Bush clan, the war.

That's what bugs me about them. They're nice people, some generous even, depending on the situation.... many oppose their own government. But they haven't done a licking thing for 8 years about it except complain like all the other countries in the world.

The problem is, that they're the one's in the position to change their country, not us. It'd be hypocritical to pull a chapter from their own book. A bit ironic, but hypocritical too.