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Quran 4: 123-124, which means:

[Some Jewish men and some Muslim men boasted to each other; the Jews said: "We are the chosen people of God, and God will forgive us our sins whatever sins we may commit."
While the Muslims said: "No, but it is we to whom God will forgive our sins, because we have believed in God and His messenger Mohammed."
Therefore, this aya was revealed:]

123. It is not according to your vain desires [Muslims] a, nor the vain desires of the people of the Bible [: Jews and Christians] b;
but anyone who does evil shall be punished accordingly c, and shall not find for himself apart from God any patron d or helper e.

[Then God – be glorified – explained that the expenditure on the poor, feeding of the food and other righteous acts are accepted from believers exclusively, but are not accepted from associaters in particular:]

124. Anyone – male or female – does the righteous [deeds] and being a believer f, such g shall enter into Paradise, and shall not be wronged h [any bit] even a jot i.
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a O Muslims, the forgiveness and remission of the punishment is not according to your desires and wishes.

b Jews and Christians who commit sins then say: "We shall be forgiven."
This is confirmed by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 7: 169, which means:
(And there succeeded,after them, [their] progeny who inherited [from their fathers] the Book [: the Torah]; they accepted [as a bribe] the [temporary] property of this low [Worldly life and] say [to themselves for excuse]: "[This time, everything] will be forgiven us [and we shall not repeat it again.]")
It means: They take the bribe in their judgment and say: God will forgive us.

c Either in the life of the World or in the Next Life. As is it indicated by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 99: 7-8, which means:
(And he who does the weight of an atom of good shall see it [written in the book of his deeds.]
And he who does the weight of an atom of evil shall see it [written in the book of his deeds.])

d To take care about him.

e To help and save him from God's punishment.

f He believes in God, the apostles, Doomsday and the Judgment, and moreover he devotes himself to God alone without associating anything or anyone with God.

g i.e. the monotheists who devote themselves to God alone without associate.

h Concerning their reward.

i i.e that which a bird pecks of the seeds.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.



God is Eternal and Everlasting; He is the First and the Last.

Quran 57: 3, which means:
{He is the First f [: no god before Him], and the Last [: no god after Him], and the Dominant g, and the Invisible h, and He is Most Aware about all things.}
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f In divinity.

g i.e. Who is Dominant over His creatures with His might and authority, so that none is above Him.

h To His creatures so that none knows His essence.


The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
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I believe this response is called appeal to authority Selfie. It's quite honestly a non answer to a question. Your safety net and your justification for being aloof . Only you can honestly say why you are.
 
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Your fallacy is so obvious.
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my fallacy? I'm a girl, nothing phalic on me, pal.

You live your truth, and I'll live my truth and we'll continue to butt heads, cause you don't use yours and I do.

selfsame said:
God is Eternal and Everlasting; He is the First and the Last.
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ahhh, now I get it. You think since he is the first, the only and the last he must be lonely...and so he made you.

Have you ever thought about what being the first and only would be like for such a..being? and he made you to...what? keep him company? comparatively humans would suck as companions or company. stupid, slow and fearful. To play with? that seems most likely considering his history as given by man.

Kind of depressing that the smartest thing in your life is playing with you like a toy. No wonder you think you're going some where better when you die. Or will it be better? He's still going to play with you...like a cat with a mouse.

well I don't recommend you think too deeply about your god. You might just loose your mind.
 
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Ludlow said:
So if I think about fried okra I'll discover god. Okie dokie. another non answer.

must be cryptic or something
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If God likes to guide you, you will be guided, and if He does not like to guide you, none then can guide you.
And you will keep to your denial and refusal and misfortune and loss.

So if you want really to have guidance, pray God and He may guide you if you deserve, but if you are a wrong-doer you will never be guided.

If you are good hearted and good acting, then even if you are a disbeliever by night, by morning you will turn to be a believer.
And if you are rightly guided, then you decline and start to commit wrong-doing and transgression on others, then you will be a disbeliever next day or nearer still.
 
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Ironic....



The problem with many in the forum
And to those same people....
Another meme so eat your heart out Cliffy...:lol:

 
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If God likes to guide you, you will be guided, and if He does not like to guide you, none then can guide you.
And you will keep to your denial and refusal and misfortune and loss.

So if you want really to have guidance, pray God and He may guide you if you deserve, but if you are a wrong-doer you will never be guided.

If you are good hearted and good acting, then even if you are a disbeliever by night, by morning you will turn to be a believer.
And if you are rightly guided, then you decline and start to commit wrong-doing and transgression on others, then you will be a disbeliever next day or nearer still.
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News flash selfie. I do not accept your god. For reasons I'll keep private. You are free to inslave yourself to anything you want. Just don't expect me to take it seriously.
 
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Ludlow said:
News flash selfie. I do not accept your god. For reasons I'll keep private. You are free to inslave yourself to anything you want. Just don't expect me to take it seriously.
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This is your choice to which you will be responsible.

To me: I believe in God as One God without associate, son or parents.
God is Eternal and Most Gracious, Most Kind, All-Knowing, All-Merciful, Most Forgiving, and no god but God alone; to Him belong the most beautiful names.

To me is the reward of my religion and obedience, and to you is the punishment of your atheism and idolatry.
 
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I don't think God is easily lost so why would i look for him?
I don't ask for stuff so I don't bother
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You lie to yourself, with your self conceit.
So are you a neglected stuff coming to the world haphazardly and will disappear as such without any consequences; no, you are only deluded.
 
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The Devil learns from Zionists and Jews; Christians are comparatively mild and moderate; I can distinguish Zionists and Jews from their rancorous and venomous words.
 
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This is your choice to which you will be responsible.

To me: I believe in God as One God without associate, son or parents.
God is Eternal and Most Gracious, Most Kind, All-Knowing, All-Merciful, Most Forgiving, and no god but God alone; to Him belong the most beautiful names.

To me is the reward of my religion and obedience, and to you is the punishment of your atheism and idolatry.
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I did not say I was atheist Selfie.
 
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Ludlow said:
I did not say I was atheist Selfie.
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I think your god is Lucifer or Satan.
And all the same whether you are atheist or not; you are a disbeliever.

Quran 4: 140, which means:
{God will gather the hypocrites and the disbelievers all in Hell [on the Judgment Day.]}
 
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