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Death toll exceeds 12,000,9400 TRAPPED

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Death toll exceeds 12,000 in Sichuan, 9,400 trapped

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif](chinadaily.com.cn/agencies/xinhua)
Updated: 2008-05-13 00:16[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif] As of 7 p.m. Tuesday, southwestern Sichuan Province has reported 12,012 deaths in Monday's quake, according to the disaster relief center under the State Council.
Another 9,404 were buried in debris, 7,841 were missing and 26,206 people were injured, according to the headquarters.

A boy is rescued from the debris of a collapsed building after an earthquake in Dujiangyan, Sichuan province May 13, 2008. [Agencies]
Li Chengyun, vice governor of Sichuan, provided a breakdown of the death toll, including 161 in the Aba Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture, 7,395 in Mianyang City, 2,648 in Deyang City, 959 in the provincial capital Chengdu and 700 in Guangyuan City. Other casualties were reported in cities including Ya'an, Ziyang and the Garze Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture.
The death toll climbed from an earlier tally provided by the Ministry of Civil Affairs, which put the Sichuan death toll at 11,608. Authorities said the death toll might change every hour, as they heard reports from rescuers who were seizing every minute to pull out bodies from the earthquake rubble.
The military doctors and soldiers have started to search for survivors and treat injured people at the Yinxiu County of Wenchuan, 20 kilometers from Dujiangyan city.
The road from Dujiangyan, a city northwest of the provincial capital Chengdu, to Wenchuan, the epicenter, was blocked by rocks and mud slides, holding up rescue, medical and other disaster relief teams. Sichuan provincial officials said more than one third of the buildings and houses in Wenchuan were leveled off. The casualties there remain unknown.
Tuesday morning, Premier Wen Jiabao ordered to remove barriers and open up roads to epicenter before 12:00 pm Tuesday after a strong earthquake jolted southwest China's Sichuan Province Monday afternoon.

People's Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers try to dig out a victim buried under the remains of an apartment block that collapsed after a huge earthquake shook the area in the city of Dujiangyan, located around 50 kilometres north of Chengdu in Sichuan Province, May 13, 2008. [Agencies]
Soldiers from the Chengdu Military Command have chosen to walk to the areas with heaviest damage inflicted by the quake.
The 7.8-magnitude tremor devastated a region of small cities and towns set amid steep and forestry hills northwestern of Sichuan provincial capital of Chengdu. Striking in mid-afternoon on Monday, it emptied office buildings across the country in Beijing and Shanghai and could be felt as far away as Vietnam and Thailand.

The death toll exceeds 12,000 by 4 pm Tuesday in Sichuan Province alone, according to local government. At least 4,800 people remained buried in Mianzhu, 60 miles (100 kilometers) from the epicenter, Xinhua said, citing local authorities.
The casualty figures were expected to rise and remained uncertain due to the remote areas affected by the quake and difficulty in finding buried victims.
The killer quake toppled buildings, schools and chemical plants, trapping unknown numbers in mounds of concrete, steel, wooden frames, bricks and earth in China's worst earthquake in three decades.
Chinese President Hu Jintao, back to Beijing following a 5-day state visit to Japan, convened a CPC Politburo Standing Committee meeting Monday night, and ordered all-out efforts for the rescue. More than 16,000 PLA officers, soldiers and police have rushed to the quake-stricken areas.


Premier Wen Jiabao, heading a slew of government ministers and leading the overall rescue endeavoring, flew to Sichuan province Monday evening. Wen inspected a local hospital and a middle school in Juyuan town, where a three-story high school collapsed and up to 900 students were trapped in the rubbles. Xinhua news agency said that more than 50 have been found dead.
Wen ordered no single minute should be wasted in order to save those trapped alive in the debris. Online photos showed people using cranes, mechanical hoists and their hands to remove slabs of concrete and steel.


Premier Wen Jiabao(C) arranges relief work with officials onboard the plane to quake-stricken area on May 12, 2008. [Xinhua]
"Please just hold on, people are going to get you out of here, " Wen told the people trapped in the collapsed buildings in a loudspeaker.
China's CCTV footages on Tuesday showed more than 10 trapped in the debris have been rescued alive, including a middle-year woman, and a small girl, her face covered with ashes, being moved out from the debris on a stretcher, and rushed to hospital.
When comforting patients and medical staffs in the hospital in Dujiangyan, suburban Chengdu, Premier Wen asked rescuing troops to search every corner for people waiting for salvation and carry out the rescue work in an orderly way.
"If there is a gleam of hope, we will do all the best to save the people," Wen vowed at the middle school at Juyuan town, adding that the rescuing team would not rest until the last one under the ruin was saved.
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Not only our child poverty, but homelessness in general. There are thousands in our own country who should be helped out first. Why give it away to countries who either don't appreciate it or need it. On top of that, China is the main reason the economy in north america is going in the dumper.

That controversy happens all the time even in China! Many Chinese complain that we've given too much money to Vietnan/Indonesia/Cambodia/Myanmar and other nations who turned their backs on us when we were in weakness, while countless of people in China are desperately in need of this money. Anyway, it is reasonable to think in a patriotic way, however, I think that the nature of power decides when one nation is in great power(US, UK, Canada...etc.) or even just have the edge in one region (China, for example), it is just inevitable to stop expanding or showing-off the power, accordingly, usually they give money to the nations in relative disadvantage, popularize their values, and interfere with affairs out of their territories. All men are fallible, and it is just an another flaw of human beings. So actually there is nothing to blame!
 
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dancing-loon

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That controversy happens all the time even in China! Many Chinese complain that we've given too much money to Vietnan/Indonesia/Cambodia/Myanmar and other nations who turned their backs on us when we were in weakness, while countless of people in China are desperately in need of this money. Anyway, it is reasonable to think in a patriotic way, however, I think that the nature of power decides when one nation is in great power(US, UK, Canada...etc.) or even just have the edge in one region (China, for example), it is just inevitable to stop expanding or showing-off the power, accordingly, usually they give money to the nations in relative disadvantage, popularize their values, and interfere with affairs out of their territories. All men are fallible, and it is just an another flaw of human beings. So actually there is nothing to blame!
Hi, Hegel;
nice to see you again! ;-)
Basically, I agree with you... we are all human. But the question raised by Durka, and the link he provided http://www.embassymag.ca/html/index....ry/21/experts/ stipulated whether the $56 million are spent wisely.
Here is the excerpt in question:
Mr. Raghubeer said that while Canada is providing approximately $56 million in foreign aid to China, the Asian country has the world's largest army, a booming economy and is poised for war with Taiwan, a democratic country.

"A fair amount of foreign aid was directed to training Communist Chinese judges, who rule in a Communist system of state-controlled law," he said. "There can be no rationale or reasonable excuse as to why Canada continues to train Chinese judges, knowing full well that these state-appointed judges are and can only be responsible to Beijing first and foremost."
I would like to hear your opinion on that, is that money from Canada really helping to promote democratic thinking in your country?
Perhaps you need to read a little more from that article, as it talks about promoting democracy in foreign countries.
 

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Thousands of Chinese soldiers hike to quake zone

Chinese soldiers are hiking across washed-out roads and mud-blocked passageways in a desperate effort to get to survivors in the worst hit areas of this week's earthquake.

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CHINA / Strong Earthquake Jolts SW China

National death toll rises to 14,866 two days after quake

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif](China Daily, Xinhua and agencies)
Updated: 2008-05-14 02:03[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif] 50,000 soldiers mobilized
As of Tuesday night, nearly 20,000 soldiers and armed policemen had arrived in Sichuan province, with 30,000 more troops advancing toward the quake-hit regions by planes, trains and trucks, and on foot, the Ministry of Defense said.
A large number of search and rescue workers are urgently needed in quake-hit areas, an official with the Ministry of Civil Affairs said on Tuesday.
Wang Zhenyao, director of the disaster relief department of the ministry, told a press conference on Tuesday that people trapped in collapsed buildings could survive for up to a week.
According to Wang, transportation hurdles and the huge number of victims were the two major difficulties facing rescue and relief workers.
Meanwhile, huge amounts of relief materials are required, Wang said, adding that up to 60,000 tents are needed in Mianyang alone, putting further pressure on transport.
Wang, while expressing appreciation for all domestic and foreign donations, said conditions were "not yet ripe" to allow foreign rescue teams into the country.
"At this point, transportation in affected areas is still blocked and it is impossible even for our own rescue teams to reach the disaster-hit areas," he said.
A Foreign Ministry spokesman on Tuesday also welcomed the international community's aid to China's relief efforts.
Many international organizations and foreign leaders have expressed sympathy and pledged to offer help.
Qin Gang told a news briefing that no casualties of foreigners in quake-affected area had been reported.
A group of 31 British tourists have arrived safe in Chengdu, Qin Gang late on Tuesday.
The 31 British tourists encountered the massive quake Monday afternoon on their way back from a tour to Wolong, and all of them finally returned to Chengdu safe without any casualty or injury, with the assistance of the police of Dujiangyan, a city near Chengdu, according to Qin.
Train derailed
A 40-car freight train carrying gasoline derailed and caught fire in neighboring Gansu during the quake and was still burning Tuesday evening, a railway official said. One injury was reported.
The train, including 13 tank cars filled with gasoline, derailed and burst into flames on Monday in Gansu province when the quake cut a major rail line, Wang Yongping, spokesman for the Ministry of Railways said.
It was still on fire more than 26 hours after the accident, Xinhua News Agency reported.
The heat of the fire could be felt 100 m away.
Wang said all the railway lines affected by the quake in Sichuan province had been reopened, apart from the line with the burning freight train. That railway runs from Baoji in Shaanxi province to Guangyuan in Sichuan.
The earthquake left trains and passengers stranded on major rail lines leading to Chengdu, Xinhua said. At least 149 cargo trains and 31 passenger trains were affected and passengers were being moved to safety yesterday.
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Socrates the Greek

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I pray in my spiritual world to bring peace and harmony to anyone affected with such an enormous catastrophe in China. These people need desperate help from the world community. I pray that many people will be found still alive.
 

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The whole country is up and helping the victims whichever way they can ; the Chinese Western Business community have given allot of money to the cause ,there are doctors coming from Russia to treat those alive ,my employees and myself have donated our blood and will do it again .
 

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The whole country is up and helping the victims whichever way they can ; the Chinese Western Business community have given allot of money to the cause ,there are doctors coming from Russia to treat those alive ,my employees and myself have donated our blood and will do it again .

Yes, this is the time humanity should rise above its bias and help all people affected from China to Burma and unfortunately some countries in Africa are faced with genocide while the world is looking the other way, one place that comes to mind is Darfur… . :-:)-:)-(
 

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All threads related to the earthquake in China have been merged here. Please use this thread for any further comments on this subject.

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A list of aid sofar:

China mobilised its 2.3 million-strong armed forces to lead the search and rescue effort,

Hong Kong spearheaded a global relief drive with an offer amounting to 38 million dollars (24.5 million euros), the lion's share of the 46.5 million dollars pledged worldwide.


China's Asian neighbours also put aside historic rivalries to offer help to Beijing,
with Japan
offering 500 million yen (4.8 million dollars) of blankets, tents and cash aid.

Taiwan, which China regards as a renegade province, said it would join the rescue effort,

while its president-elect Ma Ying-jeou, who has moved to repair ties with China, donated 200,000 Taiwan dollars (6,500 US) from his own pocket.

South Korea put dozens of rescue workers and medical staff on standby,
while Australia
offered emergency search and rescue help.

And as China agreed to scale back the Olympic torch relay in response to the deadly earthquake -- in response to an Internet outcry -- the International Olympic Committee (IOC) pledged one million dollars for relief.

Outside the region, the White House said it was providing 500,000 dollars in emergency relief and could send more aid if needed,

while Canada said it was ready to send help.

A Russian transport aircraft carrying 30 tonnes of tents and blankets left Moscow Tuesday night for China, news agencies reported.

European Union nations said they "stand ready" to provide humanitarian assistance as soon as conditions permit,

while British aid agency Oxfam said it has allocated 1.5 million dollars towards dealing with the quake aftermath.

In Geneva the Red Cross said it had allocated some 150,000 euros,

while the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said it was ready to send aid if China requested it, but stressed that Beijing had a well-trained relief corps at its disposal.

In stark contrast to Myanmar where the ruling junta was criticised for its handling of this month's cyclone in the Irrawaddy Delta, Beijing rolled out a mammoth relief effort within hours of the quake.

As well as the army deployment, China launched a national blood drive to supply survivors,

while private airlines were called in to transport aid,

and the Red Cross Society of China appealed to all Chinese for cash donations.

But officials said attempts to reach the worst-hit areas were badly disrupted by torrential rain and the sheer scale of the damage, and forecasters warned more rain would increase the risk of landslides in Sichuan in the coming days.

While China kept the door open to foreign offers of help, saying it "welcomed" them, it warned the conditions were "not yet ripe" to allow foreign rescue teams into the country, citing damage to transport links.

International aid experts said it was important for Beijing to be seen to be coping with the disaster alone.

"For China, in addition to questions of sovereignty, there is the question of national pride," said Pierre Micheletti, head of the medical charity Medecins du Monde (MDM, Doctors of the World).

"This is a great country that is about to organise the Olympic Games and which probably has trouble admitting it might need outside countries to help it handle a disaster."

Rony Brauman, former head of Medecins sans Frontieres (MSF, Doctors Without Borders), agreed that "a natural disaster shines a light on relations between the authorities and the population, between the authorities and the rest of the world.

"It reveals its skills, or inability to react," he said, adding that the sheer scale of the Chinese relief effort was likely to dwarf the work of most non-governmental teams on the ground.
 

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Quake survivors in Hanwang

Student Yang Liu trapped
High-school student Yang Liu, wearing a helmet given by a rescuer, has her legs are trapped under concrete in the rubble of a collapsed school in the township of Hanwang in Mianzhu city in Sichuan province May 14, 2008. Yang has been fed, given water and a white helmet as workers remove ruins brick by brick from around her and a crane pulled away slabs of concrete -- the remains of the school that parents said had around 800 students before Monday's quake hit.
Children need our help
A soldier carries a wounded child as she is rescued after an earthquake in Beichuan, Sichuan province May 13, 2008. [Agencies]
Pray for kids trapped under rubble

Aerial view of quake-striken Wenchuan
Wenchuan County, epicenter of a 7.8-magnitude killer earthquake, is seen in the aerial view taken on May 14, 2008. The national death toll has climbed past 13,000 following the quake on Monday. [Xinhua]
National death toll rises to 14,866 two days after quake
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A list of aid sofar:

China mobilised its 2.3 million-strong armed forces to lead the search and rescue effort,

Hong Kong spearheaded a global relief drive with an offer amounting to 38 million dollars (24.5 million euros), the lion's share of the 46.5 million dollars pledged worldwide.

China's Asian neighbours also put aside historic rivalries to offer help to Beijing,
with Japan offering 500 million yen (4.8 million dollars) of blankets, tents and cash aid.

Taiwan, which China regards as a renegade province, said it would join the rescue effort,

while its president-elect Ma Ying-jeou, who has moved to repair ties with China, donated 200,000 Taiwan dollars (6,500 US) from his own pocket.

South Korea put dozens of rescue workers and medical staff on standby,
while Australia offered emergency search and rescue help.

And as China agreed to scale back the Olympic torch relay in response to the deadly earthquake -- in response to an Internet outcry -- the International Olympic Committee (IOC) pledged one million dollars for relief.

Outside the region, the White House said it was providing 500,000 dollars in emergency relief and could send more aid if needed,

while Canada said it was ready to send help.

A Russian transport aircraft carrying 30 tonnes of tents and blankets left Moscow Tuesday night for China, news agencies reported.

European Union nations said they "stand ready" to provide humanitarian assistance as soon as conditions permit,

while British aid agency Oxfam said it has allocated 1.5 million dollars towards dealing with the quake aftermath.

In Geneva the Red Cross said it had allocated some 150,000 euros,

while the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said it was ready to send aid if China requested it, but stressed that Beijing had a well-trained relief corps at its disposal.

In stark contrast to Myanmar where the ruling junta was criticised for its handling of this month's cyclone in the Irrawaddy Delta, Beijing rolled out a mammoth relief effort within hours of the quake.

As well as the army deployment, China launched a national blood drive to supply survivors,

while private airlines were called in to transport aid,

and the Red Cross Society of China appealed to all Chinese for cash donations.

But officials said attempts to reach the worst-hit areas were badly disrupted by torrential rain and the sheer scale of the damage, and forecasters warned more rain would increase the risk of landslides in Sichuan in the coming days.

While China kept the door open to foreign offers of help, saying it "welcomed" them, it warned the conditions were "not yet ripe" to allow foreign rescue teams into the country, citing damage to transport links.

International aid experts said it was important for Beijing to be seen to be coping with the disaster alone.

"For China, in addition to questions of sovereignty, there is the question of national pride," said Pierre Micheletti, head of the medical charity Medecins du Monde (MDM, Doctors of the World).

"This is a great country that is about to organise the Olympic Games and which probably has trouble admitting it might need outside countries to help it handle a disaster."

Rony Brauman, former head of Medecins sans Frontieres (MSF, Doctors Without Borders), agreed that "a natural disaster shines a light on relations between the authorities and the population, between the authorities and the rest of the world.

"It reveals its skills, or inability to react," he said, adding that the sheer scale of the Chinese relief effort was likely to dwarf the work of most non-governmental teams on the ground.


Thank you for this update. That is great to see the human beings can put their biasess in the back burner and help these people in these very dificult times.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Why do I get the feeling that this earthquake is nature's way of punishing China for the recent Tibet conundrum? Karma works fast man!

Your comment is nothing short of a red neck that will use any instance to get even with your enemy. We are talking about children mostly that have lost their lives. If one was to follow your insensitive thinking he or she would get lost in a world of apathy. How can you associate KARMA with the fact that these children have absolutely nothing to do with the leadership of China? That is so wrong to feel gratification on the fact that China is punished in this manner. 50.000 people are affected while you are happy telling every one here that KARMA CAUSED THIS. Man where is you fiber of empathy?. :angryfire::roll::angryfire::roll:
 

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ChinaNationalNews.comThursday 15th May 2008Edition 136/2008
Front PageChina News
Grief and desperation cloud Chinese relief efforts

Further aid and comfort has reached China's earthquake-devastated areas, after the 7.9 magnitude quake in southwestern Sichuan province spawned rumours of chemical spills and dam...


China quake rescuers face huge hurdlesChemical spills, creaking dams, tourists stranded 600 metres up a cable car line, and a fire burning for two days on a derailed freight train laden with petrol tankers were some of the relatively minor problems facing Chinese civilian and military rescue services after China's most devastating earthquake for 32...


China lets in Japanese rescue team as quake toll rises to 15,000China has agreed to Japan sending an emergency rescue team to help with efforts to save tens of thousands of people buried under rubble after a devastating earthquake, the foreign ministry said...
 

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Why do I get the feeling that this earthquake is nature's way of punishing China for the recent Tibet conundrum? Karma works fast man!
It's the end times, and 'karma' needs to get as much punishment in as it can!!:lol:

Does it work that fast on you, too????;-);-)
 

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