Chimps & Pigs, the human hybrid family tree

darkbeaver

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So you (pl.) are suggesting that way back some lonely young primate got a little too friendly with a sow, and we are the result?

Verry interresting!

BTW humans do not suffer from low fertility. Primitive tribes used intelligence & discovered that prolonged lactation for feeding an infant helped cut the chances of pregnancy.

Go back a few generations & you will find very often your ancestors like mine had 10-15 children. Of course, only about half survived to breeding age, but......

There are over 7.1 billion of us on this planet.

I wouldn't call that low fertility.

Anyway, its a fun topic, but the fossill record shows the hominid/primate record quite clearly.

Although I suppose every species on earth is a type of hybrid if you go back far enough.

When humans hold their breath & feel a need to breath that gets more intense, we are not sensing a lack of oxygen, we sense a rise in CO2. I am told that this specific mechanism & associated genes is the same as fish use. So I guess we are slso fish hybrids too..

Here we is faced with the juxtiposition of the Holy Evolution of Pope Darwin I and hybridization amongst mamals amongst others what was previously served to the masses as unlikely science fiction. Relative infertilty in humans, think about bags of kittens every three months, also it is not always among human couples a sure thing first time not even second.


The pig is not well represented in the fossil record so I'm wondering who were the parents of the pig line.
 

Gilgamesh

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The pig is quite adequately represented.

To relieve you of the burden, they were quite a bit bigger, & seemed to hunt in packs.

They were mean muthas. Of course, wild boars still are.
 

darkbeaver

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The pig is quite adequately represented.

To relieve you of the burden, they were quite a bit bigger, & seemed to hunt in packs.

They were mean muthas. Of course, wild boars still are.

A little reading this afternoon seems to indicate most fossil remains of pigs are just the teeth. And from the teeth the pictorials of supposed prehistoric pigs was constructed.
 

darkbeaver

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Gesus H Krast, I can't believe the stampede to deny our ancestors just to continue to enjoy bacon without guilt.

Human infertility. Another observation that appears significant in connection with the hypothesis under consideration is that it has been well known for decades that human sperm is abnormal in comparison with that of the typical mammal. Human spermatozoa are not of one uniform type as in the vast majority of all other types of animals. Moreover, human sperm is not merely abnormal in appearance — a high percentage of human spermatozoa are actually dysfunctional. These and other facts demonstrate that human fertility is low in comparison with that of other mammals (for detailed documentation of this fact see the article Evidence of Human Infertility). Infertility and sperm abnormalities are characteristic of hybrids. So this finding suggests that it's reasonable to suppose, at least for the sake of argument, that humans might be of hybrid origin. It is also consistent with the idea that the hybridization in question was between two rather distinct and genetically incompatible types of animals, that is, it was a distant cross.
 

darkbeaver

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EUGENE M. MCCARTHY, PHD GENETICS

Human infertility. Another observation that appears significant in connection with the theory of human origins here under consideration is that it has been well known for decades that human sperm is abnormal in comparison with that of the typical mammal. Human spermatozoa are not of one uniform type as in the vast majority of all other types of animals. Moreover, human sperm is not merely abnormal in appearance — a high percentage of human spermatozoa are actually dysfunctional. These and other facts demonstrate that human fertility is low in comparison with that of other mammals (for detailed documentation of this fact see the article Evidence of Human Infertility). Infertility and sperm abnormalities are characteristic of hybrids. So this finding suggests that it's reasonable to suppose, at least for the sake of argument, that human origins can be traced to a hybrid cross. It is also consistent with the idea that the hybridization in question was between two rather distinct and genetically incompatible types of animals, that is, it was a distant cross.
Methodology. The chimpanzee is plausible in the role of one of the parents that crossed to produce the human race because they are generally recognized as being closest to humans in terms of their genetics (here, I use the term chimpanzee loosely to refer to either the common chimpanzee or to the bonobo, also known as the pygmy chimpanzee; the specific roles of these two rather similar apes within the context of the theory of human origins now under consideration will be explained in a subsequent section). But then the question arises: If an ancient cross between the chimpanzee and some parental form “X” produced the first humans, then what was that parent? Does it still exist? What was it like?
 

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Hybridized by the Reptilians?

Why not?

It explains all sorts of things.



p.s. If a high percentage of our sperm were NOT dysfunctional, we'd be falling off the ecdges of this ball.