Chavez ... Human Rights Violator ... and Liar
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You never said where you found that article, ITN. That wouldn't be because it is an uncredited letter to the editor of the Ithaca Journal would it?
I was unable to ascertain whether the Ithaca Journal is the house journal of the Libertarian Party of New York, or whether the LPNY caged it from a publication they favour. Perhaps you can clear that up for us.
You never said where you found that article, ITN. That wouldn't be because it is an uncredited letter to the editor of the Ithaca Journal would it?
I was unable to ascertain whether the Ithaca Journal is the house journal of the Libertarian Party of New York, or whether the LPNY caged it from a publication they favour. Perhaps you can clear that up for us.
Yeah it was, and I forgot to post it. I thought you would be thrilled equating Venezeula to Cuba.
Here's that link.
http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050715/OPINION02/507150309/1014/OPINION
Here's that link.
http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050715/OPINION02/507150309/1014/OPINION
RE: Chavez ... Human Righ
Whoever wrote it never even bothered to sign it, ITN. Funny how you went after an official letter in response to a particular story in a major publication...a letter signed by a Venezuelan government official. Odd how you decided that instead of posting a link you would C&P and unsigned letter to a relatively minor publication, then "forget" to post where it came from.
Whoever wrote it never even bothered to sign it, ITN. Funny how you went after an official letter in response to a particular story in a major publication...a letter signed by a Venezuelan government official. Odd how you decided that instead of posting a link you would C&P and unsigned letter to a relatively minor publication, then "forget" to post where it came from.
The one difference is, Chavez doesn't have to worry about Soviet dependency. He's sitting on wealth of resources. That is what makes this guy far more dangerous than Cuba.
Jay, I'm confused. You've said several times that you think Chavez is a great danger, worse than Cuba.
I don't understand.
Leaving aside the issue of the Cuban Misslie Crisis, in what way, and to whom has Cuba been "dangerous"?
In what way, and to whom will Chavez be "dangerous"?
What, in your opinion, has been the "most dangerous" country since WWII, and by what measure?
I'm really interested because, to be honest, I'm convinced that you hate Chavez because he rejects America, focuses on the poor and you see him as an enemy of your ideology which says that rich people are better than poor people and that business profits are worth more than human lives.
Prove me wrong, give me another perspective, Jay.
Jay, I'm confused. You've said several times that you think Chavez is a great danger, worse than Cuba.
I don't understand.
Leaving aside the issue of the Cuban Misslie Crisis, in what way, and to whom has Cuba been "dangerous"?
In what way, and to whom will Chavez be "dangerous"?
What, in your opinion, has been the "most dangerous" country since WWII, and by what measure?
I'm really interested because, to be honest, I'm convinced that you hate Chavez because he rejects America, focuses on the poor and you see him as an enemy of your ideology which says that rich people are better than poor people and that business profits are worth more than human lives.
Prove me wrong, give me another perspective, Jay.
pastafarian said:
That is mighty convenient to leave out huge gaps in history...But let's remember that Castro didn't just stay put in Cuba. He supported communist revolutions in other countries.
pastafarian said:
Chavez is dangerous because of the wealth he sits on and his allegiance, proven allegiance, to places like Iran, Zimbabwe, Cuba, and China etc. I think it is obvious. Also he is a military leader who led a bloody coup and by all rights should be in jail for sedition and murder.
pastafarian said:
The Soviet Union for all the obvious reasons.
pastafarian said:
I don't know why you think that about why I don't like Chavez and why you think that about the ideology I represent.
I have made it clear my problems with this guy aren’t because he helps the poor. It is more than obvious to me, with the aging Castro, that Chavez is priming himself to take the international stage where Castro is leaving off. Who knows where it will lead exactly, but my money says it isn’t going to be good.
I might add that I like your approch to this.
And as usual, you didn't say a fecking thing, except the usual blah blah! In fact you are so blind, you cannot even see that pastaman has shown you for sheep you are. :roll:
I don't have to speak for him, try reading his posts. Its just gets a little hard to stomach how you both defend american neo-colonialism and imperialism. :roll:
If your right about his posts he will have to say so, and that will be the end if it, if not, he will now have to say that wasn't his intention....
FYI, this thread is about Chavez being a Human Rights Violator ... and Liar, not about American neo-colonialism and imperialism.
FYI, this thread is about Chavez being a Human Rights Violator ... and Liar, not about American neo-colonialism and imperialism.
So let be clear here, what part of a "democratic vote" do you not understand??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_recall_referendum,_2004
What part of american government undermining of a government that was voted by a democratic ballot, do you not understand??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_coup_attempt_of_2002#Alleged_US_involvement
I throw this in for a laugh
Our department doesn’t do that kind of thing. It’s against the law."
Donald rumsfeld
:roll: :roll: :roll: Oh! I see, the law does not matter when you want to arrange coups and murder leaders of other countries.
Liar liar pants on fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_recall_referendum,_2004
What part of american government undermining of a government that was voted by a democratic ballot, do you not understand??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_coup_attempt_of_2002#Alleged_US_involvement
I throw this in for a laugh
Our department doesn’t do that kind of thing. It’s against the law."
Donald rumsfeld
:roll: :roll: :roll: Oh! I see, the law does not matter when you want to arrange coups and murder leaders of other countries.
Liar liar pants on fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States
peapod said:
See Pea, had you not said this, I would respond to your last post and think that you mean to actually debate this rather than just call people sheep.
Remember I have to walk as if on thin ice around here, where others don't. That is the way you want it.
I call it like I see it. As for skating on thin ice, just more of your whining. I call you a sheep, because that is what you are. You defend the indefendable.