Cato Institute: Ladders pose greater risk than terrorism

mentalfloss

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You realize Cato is a conservative/libertarian agency.

Rofl



At least your messiah gets the concept of what it means to be right wing.

http://spectator.org/articles/60553/bill-o’reilly’s-soldiers-fortune
 

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So let me get this straight, there are at least eighty of these bad folks out there, that have broken some law, and they're under surveillance. Why the **** aren't they in jail ? You mean the law and order govt is letting these people walk around plotting their nefarious schemes. I'm starting on a bunker, meby next week.

If they were to smoke a joint they would be in jail so fast their turbans would need a week to catch up. Just killing innocent people gets you surveillance.
 

Twila

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If they were to smoke a joint they would be in jail so fast their turbans would need a week to catch up. Just killing innocent people gets you surveillance.

How do we get'em to smoke a joint? I'll supply it...
 

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The 'unknown unknowns' of confronting ISIS in Iraq

The lack of credible military intelligence about ISIS is like what it was about the Taliban

One striking similarity between Canada's first combat mission to Iraq and our long, draining involvement in the Afghan war is the almost total lack of credible military intelligence at the outset.

We knew almost nothing about the Taliban for years, even as we began fighting them, and we know even less about ISIS now.

It was Ottawa's abysmal lack of intel in 2005 that allowed us to eagerly lobby NATO to put us in charge of Kandahar province, the Taliban's home base.

Four frustrating years later, our small contingent of under 3,000 troops was having limited success in suppressing escalating Taliban operations there, and a large U.S. Marine surge was needed to take over the combat lead.

Today, the U.S.-led coalition that we've joined seems to have a similarly blank intelligence slate on this latest enemy as it rampages through Syria and parts of Iraq.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/world/the-unknown-unknowns-of-confronting-isis-in-iraq-1.2794261
 

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What is it that's not known about them? What intel is required? (those are seriously asked questions, not meant as sarcasm)

Is it that we've been too "cautious" on how we deal with them, that they're still so pervasive and not conquered?
 

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Fiscal conservatives love the toque.
You only pretend to be a fiscal conservative on the net.

The 'unknown unknowns' of confronting ISIS in Iraq

The lack of credible military intelligence about ISIS is like what it was about the Taliban

One striking similarity between Canada's first combat mission to Iraq and our long, draining involvement in the Afghan war is the almost total lack of credible military intelligence at the outset.

We knew almost nothing about the Taliban for years, even as we began fighting them, and we know even less about ISIS now.

It was Ottawa's abysmal lack of intel in 2005 that allowed us to eagerly lobby NATO to put us in charge of Kandahar province, the Taliban's home base.

Four frustrating years later, our small contingent of under 3,000 troops was having limited success in suppressing escalating Taliban operations there, and a large U.S. Marine surge was needed to take over the combat lead.

Today, the U.S.-led coalition that we've joined seems to have a similarly blank intelligence slate on this latest enemy as it rampages through Syria and parts of Iraq.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/world/the-unknown-unknowns-of-confronting-isis-in-iraq-1.2794261
lolz...

If you were informed by more than just the CBC and the Star (Or the Sun for that matter), you'd understand just how stupid that Op/Ed nonsense really is.

What is it that's not known about them? What intel is required? (those are seriously asked questions, not meant as sarcasm)
You see Twilla, some people, usually quite dumb people, think all intel on the enemy should be public knowledge.

Is it that we've been too "cautious" on how we deal with them, that they're still so pervasive and not conquered?
No, it's because the new way we wage war is for profit margins, and keeping the wimps happy, not victories.
 

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It was Ottawa's abysmal lack of intel in 2005 that allowed us to eagerly lobby NATO to put us in charge of Kandahar province, the Taliban's home base. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/world/the-unknown-unknowns-of-confronting-isis-in-iraq-1.2794261

Jesus Christ.


I've heard and read a lot of nonsense about the 'stan but nothing that ridiculous. And civvies using the word "intel" sends a shiver up my spine probably like a doctor does hearing the mechanic fix his car ask for a wrench and 6ccs of lube stat.

But if I really have to debate that five is a number, a duck is a bird and the Canadian flag is red & white let me know and I'll clear things up for you.
 

CDNBear

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Interesting, although it doesn't make a strong case for declaring war on ladders.

Hey Flossy, if I raised enough to get you over to the Caliphate and put you up for a few hours (I'm sure that's as long as you'll need/have), would you go and try and negotiate with the leaders of ISIS/ISIL?

I'll even get you a nice virgin donkey to take with you. I'm sure that might buy you a couple extra minutes.

Serious question and offer though.
 

Kathie Bondar

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There is so much hand wringing when it comes to going after terrorists
No one does anything about killer ladders distracted drivers yes ladders
no they just stand there waiting to kill apparently.
As for terrorists these people are not only going back to the stone age
they are actively engaged in selling young women and girls into slavery.
We have some 80 of these creeps who fought for terrorism coming back
home to live amongst us. These people have committed a criminal act
by supporting the enemy and should be rounded up and imprisoned.
Actually military law could see them shot, I pay to see these guys executed
and I am not known to support violence. Time to round them up and anyone
who supports them Oh and put your ladder away before you fall
I just cleaned the gutter from autumn leaves, perched on top of a ladder, totally unsuspecting it could be a terrorist. Silly me
 

CDNBear

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Considering my offer, Flossy?

I mean Pinky here says we're living in the most peaceful time in human history. Maybe you should go tell the leaders of ISIS that.
 
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Considering my offer, Flossy?

I mean Pinky here says we're living in the most peaceful time in human history. Maybe you should go tell the leaders of ISIS that.

The real question is whether or not the actions of ISIS truly destabilize the trend in declining violence and if so, whether or not military action is the right approach to address the problem.

It might be more productive to actually emigrate peaceful civilians to democratic states.
 

CDNBear

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The real question is whether or not the actions of ISIS truly destabilize the trend in declining violence and if so, whether or not military action is the right approach to address the problem.

It might be more productive to actually emigrate peaceful civilians to democratic states.
If you don't believe in what you're selling, just say so. Your attempts to say we should negotiate because ISIS really ain't that bad in the grand scheme of things and maybe we should just take up refugees in the west. In political BS speak, all the while avoiding a straight forward answer, just makes you look like a wannabe elitist douche, with no spine.