Man this whole thread is messed up. I don't like the US gov, but a conspiracy of this magnitude is completely unbelievable. Fun to think about though. Just like the Bavarian Illuminati (i think its Bavarian). Unfortunately the risks seem to outweigh the costs for the alleged perpetrators of this "hoax" . Any involvement, by anyone in the US, (or outside) as we have seen, would lead to hanus violence being perpetrated on them by the US mil. And what does it really gain anyone... Saddam gone, more oil, US bases in the middle east, etc. All of these things could have been achieved in a less provoking manner. Something this blatant can't be a conspiracy. Although i have a firm belief that the existence of the Democrats in the US is a huge conspiracy designed and built by the right to make the US seem democratic. Why else would they run such crappy candidates.
Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
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This is by far one of my favourite 9/11 conspiracy theories...that of Delmart Edward Joseph Michael Vreeland II...
Mike Vreeland was sitting in a Toronto jail, having been arrested on fraud and other charges, by the RCMP and was awaiting trial. On August 11 and 12, Vreeland demanded that he be put in contact with national security officials from both Canada and the US. He claimed that he was an officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and that he had information vital to the national security of both countries. His demands were denied, so on August 12, 2001, he scribbled a note and sealed it in an envelope, and gave it to his jailers. Three days after 9/11, the envelope was opened, and on the paper were written the words "World Trade Center", "Pentagon", "Whitehouse", "Parliament Building", "Sears Tower" and the 'Royal Bank Building in Toronto" as well as the name "Bin Laden". Also written at the bottom of the page was the phrase "Let one happen. Stop the rest".
The US government denied that he was of the Office of Naval Intelligence, and claimed that he was discharged in 1986 after two years, for dissatisfactory service. However, during a court appearance, while the prosecution were trying to portray him as a fraudulent con-man, his defense lawyers brought a speaker phone into the court room, and called the Pentagon. The operator confirmed that Mike Vreeland had an office at the Pentagon, and held the rank of Lieutenant, and even provided his direct phone number.
To this day, many people consider Mike Vreeland to be a clever con-man who manipulated people to get what he wanted...however, the RCMP have it on record that he wrote the note with the potential terrorist targets, and that it was sealed in an envelope for a month before the attacks...
http://propagandamatrix.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_vreeland1.html
http://members.freespeech.org/ltvreeland/interviews/rupport040402.html
Mike Vreeland was sitting in a Toronto jail, having been arrested on fraud and other charges, by the RCMP and was awaiting trial. On August 11 and 12, Vreeland demanded that he be put in contact with national security officials from both Canada and the US. He claimed that he was an officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and that he had information vital to the national security of both countries. His demands were denied, so on August 12, 2001, he scribbled a note and sealed it in an envelope, and gave it to his jailers. Three days after 9/11, the envelope was opened, and on the paper were written the words "World Trade Center", "Pentagon", "Whitehouse", "Parliament Building", "Sears Tower" and the 'Royal Bank Building in Toronto" as well as the name "Bin Laden". Also written at the bottom of the page was the phrase "Let one happen. Stop the rest".
The US government denied that he was of the Office of Naval Intelligence, and claimed that he was discharged in 1986 after two years, for dissatisfactory service. However, during a court appearance, while the prosecution were trying to portray him as a fraudulent con-man, his defense lawyers brought a speaker phone into the court room, and called the Pentagon. The operator confirmed that Mike Vreeland had an office at the Pentagon, and held the rank of Lieutenant, and even provided his direct phone number.
To this day, many people consider Mike Vreeland to be a clever con-man who manipulated people to get what he wanted...however, the RCMP have it on record that he wrote the note with the potential terrorist targets, and that it was sealed in an envelope for a month before the attacks...
http://propagandamatrix.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_vreeland1.html
http://members.freespeech.org/ltvreeland/interviews/rupport040402.html
This is by far one of my favourite 9/11 conspiracy theories...that of Delmart Edward Joseph Michael Vreeland II...
Mike Vreeland was sitting in a Toronto jail, having been arrested on fraud and other charges, by the RCMP and was awaiting trial. On August 11 and 12, Vreeland demanded that he be put in contact with national security officials from both Canada and the US. He claimed that he was an officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and that he had information vital to the national security of both countries. His demands were denied, so on August 12, 2001, he scribbled a note and sealed it in an envelope, and gave it to his jailers. Three days after 9/11, the envelope was opened, and on the paper were written the words "World Trade Center", "Pentagon", "Whitehouse", "Parliament Building", "Sears Tower" and the 'Royal Bank Building in Toronto" as well as the name "Bin Laden". Also written at the bottom of the page was the phrase "Let one happen. Stop the rest".
The US government denied that he was of the Office of Naval Intelligence, and claimed that he was discharged in 1986 after two years, for dissatisfactory service. However, during a court appearance, while the prosecution were trying to portray him as a fraudulent con-man, his defense lawyers brought a speaker phone into the court room, and called the Pentagon. The operator confirmed that Mike Vreeland had an office at the Pentagon, and held the rank of Lieutenant, and even provided his direct phone number.
To this day, many people consider Mike Vreeland to be a clever con-man who manipulated people to get what he wanted...however, the RCMP have it on record that he wrote the note with the potential terrorist targets, and that it was sealed in an envelope for a month before the attacks...
http://propagandamatrix.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_vreeland1.html
http://members.freespeech.org/ltvreeland/interviews/rupport040402.html
Mike Vreeland was sitting in a Toronto jail, having been arrested on fraud and other charges, by the RCMP and was awaiting trial. On August 11 and 12, Vreeland demanded that he be put in contact with national security officials from both Canada and the US. He claimed that he was an officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and that he had information vital to the national security of both countries. His demands were denied, so on August 12, 2001, he scribbled a note and sealed it in an envelope, and gave it to his jailers. Three days after 9/11, the envelope was opened, and on the paper were written the words "World Trade Center", "Pentagon", "Whitehouse", "Parliament Building", "Sears Tower" and the 'Royal Bank Building in Toronto" as well as the name "Bin Laden". Also written at the bottom of the page was the phrase "Let one happen. Stop the rest".
The US government denied that he was of the Office of Naval Intelligence, and claimed that he was discharged in 1986 after two years, for dissatisfactory service. However, during a court appearance, while the prosecution were trying to portray him as a fraudulent con-man, his defense lawyers brought a speaker phone into the court room, and called the Pentagon. The operator confirmed that Mike Vreeland had an office at the Pentagon, and held the rank of Lieutenant, and even provided his direct phone number.
To this day, many people consider Mike Vreeland to be a clever con-man who manipulated people to get what he wanted...however, the RCMP have it on record that he wrote the note with the potential terrorist targets, and that it was sealed in an envelope for a month before the attacks...
http://propagandamatrix.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_vreeland1.html
http://members.freespeech.org/ltvreeland/interviews/rupport040402.html
This is by far one of my favourite 9/11 conspiracy theories...that of Delmart Edward Joseph Michael Vreeland II...
Mike Vreeland was sitting in a Toronto jail, having been arrested on fraud and other charges, by the RCMP and was awaiting trial. On August 11 and 12, Vreeland demanded that he be put in contact with national security officials from both Canada and the US. He claimed that he was an officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and that he had information vital to the national security of both countries. His demands were denied, so on August 12, 2001, he scribbled a note and sealed it in an envelope, and gave it to his jailers. Three days after 9/11, the envelope was opened, and on the paper were written the words "World Trade Center", "Pentagon", "Whitehouse", "Parliament Building", "Sears Tower" and the 'Royal Bank Building in Toronto" as well as the name "Bin Laden". Also written at the bottom of the page was the phrase "Let one happen. Stop the rest".
The US government denied that he was of the Office of Naval Intelligence, and claimed that he was discharged in 1986 after two years, for dissatisfactory service. However, during a court appearance, while the prosecution were trying to portray him as a fraudulent con-man, his defense lawyers brought a speaker phone into the court room, and called the Pentagon. The operator confirmed that Mike Vreeland had an office at the Pentagon, and held the rank of Lieutenant, and even provided his direct phone number.
To this day, many people consider Mike Vreeland to be a clever con-man who manipulated people to get what he wanted...however, the RCMP have it on record that he wrote the note with the potential terrorist targets, and that it was sealed in an envelope for a month before the attacks...
http://propagandamatrix.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_vreeland1.html
http://members.freespeech.org/ltvreeland/interviews/rupport040402.html
Mike Vreeland was sitting in a Toronto jail, having been arrested on fraud and other charges, by the RCMP and was awaiting trial. On August 11 and 12, Vreeland demanded that he be put in contact with national security officials from both Canada and the US. He claimed that he was an officer in the Office of Naval Intelligence, and that he had information vital to the national security of both countries. His demands were denied, so on August 12, 2001, he scribbled a note and sealed it in an envelope, and gave it to his jailers. Three days after 9/11, the envelope was opened, and on the paper were written the words "World Trade Center", "Pentagon", "Whitehouse", "Parliament Building", "Sears Tower" and the 'Royal Bank Building in Toronto" as well as the name "Bin Laden". Also written at the bottom of the page was the phrase "Let one happen. Stop the rest".
The US government denied that he was of the Office of Naval Intelligence, and claimed that he was discharged in 1986 after two years, for dissatisfactory service. However, during a court appearance, while the prosecution were trying to portray him as a fraudulent con-man, his defense lawyers brought a speaker phone into the court room, and called the Pentagon. The operator confirmed that Mike Vreeland had an office at the Pentagon, and held the rank of Lieutenant, and even provided his direct phone number.
To this day, many people consider Mike Vreeland to be a clever con-man who manipulated people to get what he wanted...however, the RCMP have it on record that he wrote the note with the potential terrorist targets, and that it was sealed in an envelope for a month before the attacks...
http://propagandamatrix.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_vreeland1.html
http://members.freespeech.org/ltvreeland/interviews/rupport040402.html
Re: RE: Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
It's all part and parcel of the same "mossad did it" nonsense.
Vanni Fucci said:
It's all part and parcel of the same "mossad did it" nonsense.
Re: RE: Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
It's all part and parcel of the same "mossad did it" nonsense.
Vanni Fucci said:
It's all part and parcel of the same "mossad did it" nonsense.
Re: RE: Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
It's all part and parcel of the same "mossad did it" nonsense.
Vanni Fucci said:
It's all part and parcel of the same "mossad did it" nonsense.
Re: RE: Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
Nonsense? There are some compelling arguments that may suggest otherwise...
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/Operation911.html
...coincidence?
Perhaps, but only someone that is willingly subdued could dismiss this as nonsense...
Just the Facts said:
Nonsense? There are some compelling arguments that may suggest otherwise...
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/Operation911.html
...coincidence?
Perhaps, but only someone that is willingly subdued could dismiss this as nonsense...
Re: RE: Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
Nonsense? There are some compelling arguments that may suggest otherwise...
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/Operation911.html
...coincidence?
Perhaps, but only someone that is willingly subdued could dismiss this as nonsense...
Just the Facts said:
Nonsense? There are some compelling arguments that may suggest otherwise...
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/Operation911.html
...coincidence?
Perhaps, but only someone that is willingly subdued could dismiss this as nonsense...
Re: RE: Cash prize offered for 9/11 theory
Nonsense? There are some compelling arguments that may suggest otherwise...
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/Operation911.html
...coincidence?
Perhaps, but only someone that is willingly subdued could dismiss this as nonsense...
Just the Facts said:
Nonsense? There are some compelling arguments that may suggest otherwise...
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/Operation911.html
...coincidence?
Perhaps, but only someone that is willingly subdued could dismiss this as nonsense...
Personally I don't believe any of this stuff...its sounds just like hitlers long lost diaries...a hoax..I do not believe for one second that the united states was involved in killing its own citizens in such a way.
Personally I don't believe any of this stuff...its sounds just like hitlers long lost diaries...a hoax..I do not believe for one second that the united states was involved in killing its own citizens in such a way.
Personally I don't believe any of this stuff...its sounds just like hitlers long lost diaries...a hoax..I do not believe for one second that the united states was involved in killing its own citizens in such a way.
peapod said:
Yeah peapod, you're probably right...
After all, who in their right minds would orchestrate this tragedy to launch the US into an agenda of war that would ultimately destabilize the geo-political structure of the Middle East, and enable them to gain access to the second most abundant oil reserves on the planet?
The "official story" as presented by the US government, and backed up by the Independent 911 Commission, has left far too many questions unanswered for this issue to be ignored...
...one might start looking into history of the US and armed conflicts...consistently, the prelude to most US armed conflicts in the last 100 years have involved an event that the US claims that it was powerless to prevent...points of interest would be Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, and the sinking of the Lusitania, which was meant to be the catalyst that would launch the US into WWI...
It's sad that there are a war profiteers in this world that are willing to sacrifice their countrymen to gain wealth and power...but that these people exist is undeniable...and yet they could not possibly have had anything to do with the 911 tragedies...
peapod said:
Yeah peapod, you're probably right...
After all, who in their right minds would orchestrate this tragedy to launch the US into an agenda of war that would ultimately destabilize the geo-political structure of the Middle East, and enable them to gain access to the second most abundant oil reserves on the planet?
The "official story" as presented by the US government, and backed up by the Independent 911 Commission, has left far too many questions unanswered for this issue to be ignored...
...one might start looking into history of the US and armed conflicts...consistently, the prelude to most US armed conflicts in the last 100 years have involved an event that the US claims that it was powerless to prevent...points of interest would be Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, and the sinking of the Lusitania, which was meant to be the catalyst that would launch the US into WWI...
It's sad that there are a war profiteers in this world that are willing to sacrifice their countrymen to gain wealth and power...but that these people exist is undeniable...and yet they could not possibly have had anything to do with the 911 tragedies...
peapod said:
Yeah peapod, you're probably right...
After all, who in their right minds would orchestrate this tragedy to launch the US into an agenda of war that would ultimately destabilize the geo-political structure of the Middle East, and enable them to gain access to the second most abundant oil reserves on the planet?
The "official story" as presented by the US government, and backed up by the Independent 911 Commission, has left far too many questions unanswered for this issue to be ignored...
...one might start looking into history of the US and armed conflicts...consistently, the prelude to most US armed conflicts in the last 100 years have involved an event that the US claims that it was powerless to prevent...points of interest would be Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, and the sinking of the Lusitania, which was meant to be the catalyst that would launch the US into WWI...
It's sad that there are a war profiteers in this world that are willing to sacrifice their countrymen to gain wealth and power...but that these people exist is undeniable...and yet they could not possibly have had anything to do with the 911 tragedies...
Look I am not a fan of the united states government, but for something like this you better darn well have absolute proof, as in actual evidence.