Even if they did speak out, they're certainly in no position to do anything about it.... except perhaps send out more pirates.
Captured Somali pirates 'dead' - Russia
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Even if they did speak out, they're certainly in no position to do anything about it.... except perhaps send out more pirates.
To be more accurate, people are in a flap over our military's involvement with those prisoners and how they're treated.
If it was just the Afghans fighting, capturing and torturing/beating their own prisoners, that'd be one thing... but when our troops do all the work in capturing them and then hand them over with common knowledge those prisoners are going to face harsh treatment from the afghan forces, that's another thing.... and that thing is called being an "Accessory"
In contrast, that situation where one of our troops put a couple of rounds into a Taliban fighter because he was too far gone and to put him out of his misery, I think he did the right thing.... it is war after all.
But in situations where the prisoner is not mortally wounded, is disarmed and is captured by our forces, imo, that person is out of the fight and is a POW (regardless of everybody's subjective views of what a POW is or isn't)
Torture it one thing.... killing someone in the heat of battle is another. I suspect the Russian forces most likely wiped everybody out on the ship the moment they raided it.... of course the only people who really know are the Russians who were there and the Pirates whom are now suspected as dead.
I don't see what that has to do with anything. Should I be getting out the World's Smallest Violin to play for them?
I don't see them asking our countries for help in getting things under control, they apparently have no control over their own people and they're running a'muck coming after our cargo ships in the area and holding the people on those ships as hostages for millions of dollars, whom were just trying to do their jobs.
If their own government can't control their people and quell their own problems, then any of their people who attack our ships and our people are open targets imo.
In the US as an example, people who rob banks (ie: took money and ran off) are clear targets that are allowed to be gunned down, even if they never killed or injured anybody..... yet because these pirates are hostage takers and threaten to kill innocent people for money..... suddenly we should treat them better because of their hard lives they may or may not live?
Like a dozen or so pirates take a ship.... people argue they're doing it because they don't have any other means of income.... yet are their ransoms a decently sized yearly income they're asking for?
No, they're asking for millions of dollars in return.... some of them have been paid too..... and people want me to hold sympathy for these people?
I bet those who got paid probably headed right back out to continue taking hostages and ships for ransom..... for more millions of dollars at that.
I'd personally invest in some 30 cal. machine guns for each of my ships and at anytime my ships were approached by a little dingy full of guys with AK's, I'd mow them down without a second thought and send them to Davy Jones' Locker before they got 300 metres.
They're just trying to make a living?
Well so are those people on those cargo ships.
Now what did you think the Afghan Govt was going to do - did you think that they ( some not all) would not be totured?
What involvement, you just turn them over to some country willing to try them or release them with some goodies and say don't do it again or we will fed and cloth you some more. Horrible how they are treated.
I'm not exactly the best mind reader out there, so I can't tell you what the Afghan government plans before they do something.
But at the first report or evidence of torture or abuse on the prisoners our troops caught, we should have immediately stopped transfers.
However.... this thread isn't about debating what happens in Afghanistan and that's as far as I'm trailing off the beaten path on this.
What involvement, you just turn them over to some country willing to try them or release them with some goodies and say don't do it again or we will fed and cloth you some more. Horrible how they are treated.
I'm not following your point. Our soldiers are not supposed to hand over our prisoners to anybody we suspect will abuse them.... it's like shipping off refugees to a country where they will face torture and/or death.
Still not getting how any of this relates to the above news report. Our troops are not in question, nor are afghan prisoners or anything that happens in Afghanistan.
Sure, but they could at least speak out, if they disapproved of it. I am sure you are aware of it, Islamic countries are not exactly shy about speaking out their mind, if they think they have been wronged. Counties like Iran, Syria will speak out at the slightest (or non existent) provocation.
So the fact that Somalia did not speak out tells me that they have no problem with this.
Perhaps.... or perhaps they want the other countries around the world to solve their own problems by wiping out the pirates..... or perhaps they're afraid that if they did speak out against Russia, Russia would go a step further and make their country disappear in the ocean somewhere too :lol:
Now when has that stopped a terrorist country from speaking out? And Somalia is very much a terrorist country, an outlaw country, similar to Afghanistan under Taliban.
Talban gave shelter to Osama Ben laden, they didn't care if USA drove them out of power. So even if Russia would make Somalia disappear, I doubt if Somalia would give a damn.