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The mashup:

YouTube - Kris Allen 11/20/2010 The Way You Make Me Feel/ Everybody Want's to Rule the World

YouTube - "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" & "The Way You Make Me Feel" mashup - Kris Allen

So Adam has his live-acoustic thing dropping. Good for him. I'm sort of ignoring the whole thing.

mp3:

Download Kris Allen - Everybody Wants to Rule the World and The Way You Make Me Feel (Temecula).mp3 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way

Well, it looks like Ms. Kolsch made a post under her own article from someone named "Ross" (at least, I have to assume it's she). I didn't read her stupid article, but someone pointed out to me on Top Idol that I had made a great post. I hadn't made any post!

You can read it here. I also was forced to post a response to it. This person is so sick. You know, I never use the name "ross" if I post comments on articles. If you ever see it, it's not me.

Will Bristol Palin Be The Kris Allen of Dancing With The Stars?, Page 3 of 5 - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com

Another good review (and not from examiner.com):

Lifehouse lifts spirits with Pechanga performance
 

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So Adam has his live-acoustic thing dropping. Good for him. I'm sort of ignoring the whole thing.

I'm happy about it, but also jealous that I don't get a live version of IIO. LOL -- Although when you look at the video for AWM.. they're in a studio.. things that make you go ... hmmmmm. So I'm actually excited that they are thinking about disc 2. You know Kris is going to take his time with it this time since he didn't get that chance last time. Did you read Cale's chat yesterday at KA addicts? It was really interesting. Cale's such a sweetheart.

Well, it looks like Ms. Kolsch made a post under her own article from someone named "Ross" (at least, I have to assume it's she). I didn't read her stupid article, but someone pointed out to me on Top Idol that I had made a great post. I hadn't made any post!

You can read it here. I also was forced to post a response to it. This person is so sick. You know, I never use the name "ross" if I post comments on articles. If you ever see it, it's not me.

That's so crazy -- but I guess you only have to read anything she's ever written to get that and for the record that doesn't sound like you at all (the fake Ross)

I love the new mashup.. you can just see Kris's face.. let's do it.. and the other guys are probably.. ack! .. He's such a rebel. :)
 

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You know watching that mash-up video -- it has the same ease that the solo shows videos do if that makes sense. It's so good. Kris was having fun up there.. and that ending.. *dies* Love that.
 

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I'm happy about it, but also jealous that I don't get a live version of IIO. LOL -- Although when you look at the video for AWM.. they're in a studio.. things that make you go ... hmmmmm. So I'm actually excited that they are thinking about disc 2.

I was just about to write I had no idea what you meant by "they're in a studio" in the AWM video. Then I remembered. They were in a studio! Ha. I had forgeotten that - but, guess what? The studio also intrigued me when I first watched the video. Then I forgot all about it. The question I have is: why was the camera in the studio with them?

I tend to be sort of methodical so I don't really think about disc #2 at all. I just think about AWM at this point. Want to know something? I can't even listen to Mix104.1 because literally any time I turn it on I get annoyed the song I'm hearing is not AWM. I find myself thinking: AWM is not that different from this song. AWM is as good as this song. AWM is better than this song. Etc.

From what I understand about radio, after Thanksgiving there's a freeze until after New Year re new material.

That's so crazy -- but I guess you only have to read anything she's ever written to get that and for the record that doesn't sound like you at all (the fake Ross)

I don't think it sounds like me, either. It sounds just like Kerry. She's the only one who keeps harping on things like Kris never being on Oprah! Who gives a flying f*ck?? I wonder if she was also the troll on the TWoP forum? I think she's a lot of people. I suppose there must be other trolls, but it all starts to sound the same after a while - because it is the same.

Anyhow - good luck to Adam - I hope he gets on Oprah five more times. But that acoustic EP bugs me. Kris has always done acoustic performances; Adam's were mostly for radio publicity, and the like. I don't think I remember any acoustic performances of his, pre-Idol, by choice rather than necessity. I think he has a lot of nerve to present himself as an acoustic artist at this point. But then, he just has a lot of nerve, period.

Interesting that the E! True Hollywood Thingamajig is on opposite the AMAs. Wonder what will win in the ratings?

ETA: Usually, when I search Kris on twitter it's a lot of positive stuff, but since that E! True Etc. thing is on, there are a few Adam fans tweeting negative stuff. (I don't hink I need to rehash season 8 from a Glambert perspective, thanks!)





Some more like these:

Kris Allen Las Vegas pictures by occlaikens - Photobucket

A tweet I found randomly (not on krinjalists):

Suffice it to say, however, that I don't think my attitude towards a musician has EVER changed this drastically in 24 hours. OMGILOVEKRIS

From this person: http://twitter.com/junkstory
 
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They were in a studio! Ha. I had forgeotten that - but, guess what? The studio also intrigued me when I first watched the video. Then I forgot all about it. The question I have is: why was the camera in the studio with them?

And what were they singing in the studio more importantly :)

I tend to be sort of methodical so I don't really think about disc #2 at all. I just think about AWM at this point. Want to know something? I can't even listen to Mix104.1 because literally any time I turn it on I get annoyed the song I'm hearing is not AWM. I find myself thinking: AWM is not that different from this song. AWM is as good as this song. AWM is better than this song. Etc.

Ha, I'm that way about CHUM. It plays in the office and I'm like.. Carrie Underwood?? Now that's country. Why won't you play Kris? Drives me nuts. TT really killed radio momentum. I love the song, but man it didn't do Kris any favours.

I think he has a lot of nerve to present himself as an acoustic artist at this point. But then, he just has a lot of nerve, period.

Well I think it's money rather than nerve. His fans will buy it, so the record company will put it out. He could sing the phone book and people would buy 10 copies to give as Christmas gifts. LOL For the record I'll buy the acoustic EP, I wouldn't buy the phone book a la Lambert.

Interesting that the E! True Hollywood Thingamajig is on opposite the AMAs. Wonder what will win in the ratings?

Oh yeah, what is that? Is it Adam's life story? I heard some chatter about it, but truthfully I tend not to watch True Hollywood stories of anyone. They're just so over dramatic. OMG Adam kissed a boy!

ETA: Usually, when I search Kris on twiiter it's a lot of positive stuff, but since that E! True Etc. thing is on, there are a few Adam fans tweeting negative stuff

That's shocking. Negative Adam fans? I don't believe it. ;)

Those pictures are awesome. I've been non-stop watching that EWTRTW video, those last 30 seconds.. man. I love it.
 

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Ha, I'm that way about CHUM. It plays in the office and I'm like.. Carrie Underwood?? Now that's country. Why won't you play Kris? Drives me nuts. TT really killed radio momentum. I love the song, but man it didn't do Kris any favours.

I actually think Mix104.1 will play AWM. Some of its sister stations are playing it. They didn't play LLWD until something like three months after it was released. Well- who knows? I hope so.

Enjoy.

YouTube - AL THS PART 1 11-21-2010

YouTube - AL THS 11-21-2010 PART 2

There are seven parts. They're on MJ's if you want the full torture. Be forewarned, you may not like some of the things said about Kris.

Pat Monahan at the AMAs. Someone should tell him he's 41. I'm known for not dressing my age but even I would not wear glitterpants. Stop ignoring that our hearts are warring...



Have you been following Jim Cantiello's comments?

I can't watch the AMAs any more. Everyone sucks. Even your boy Adam could not master the AMAs. It's like the radio station thing. I keep saying, "Kris would not suck. Kris would kill. Why is Kris not there?"


Yikes - kind of a tough crowd tonight. Comments for Alyssa Bernal are very snarky. Some are from Kris fans.

Krinjalists:

Twitter / @krinjalists2/nov21sanfranciscowlh

HELP!!! I will get banned at MJ's if someone doesn't talk me down!! That E! True Whatchmacallit has brought out the worst Glambert cliches! I just responded to a post that said "Kris fans don't like to hear it" but Kris is a coffeehouse/competent singer as compared to the "towering talent" that is Adam Lambert.

I want to scream.

Torres has his hair tied back. This is funny because I was just looking at pictures tonight and thinking: his hair is getting really long, wonder what it would look like if it was tied back or cut? No fooling.

 
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There are seven parts. They're on MJ's if you want the full torture. Be forewarned, you may not like some of the things said about Kris.

Pat Monahan at the AMAs. Someone should tell him he's 41. I'm known for not dressing my age but even I would not wear glitterpants. Stop ignoring that our hearts are warring...

I can't do the E True Hollywood thing. I really can't - even for people I like. I just hate E true Hollywood. Maybe for Kris I would attempt it, but if I manage to catch that show it makes me want to poke my own eyes out. LOL - so thanks, but no thanks.

I can't watch the AMAs any more. Everyone sucks. Even your boy Adam could not master the AMAs. It's like the radio station thing. I keep saying, "Kris would not suck. Kris would kill. Why is Kris not there?"

I didn't even watch. I saw a minute of Katy Perry.. and went.. Okay no. and then I saw Gavin Rossdale.. and Santana sounded good. Gavin looked and sounded horrible. That's all I watched .. Oh and I saw Justin win artist of the year. Ha! I was happy for him.

Pat should not wear glitter pants. EVER. No one should. Maybe Lady Gaga if they could get her into some pants. No boys though. Not Adam. No one.

I am ready for some normal clothing on people. Like what they hell are they wearing these days? It makes me feel old. LOL - And grumpy.

HELP!!! I will get banned at MJ's if someone doesn't talk me down!! That E! True Whatchmacallit has brought out the worst Glambert cliches! I just responded to a post that said "Kris fans don't like to hear it" but Kris is a coffeehouse/competent singer as compared to the "towering talent" that is Adam Lambert.

LOL - just let it go, they can't get past Kris beating the towering talent. Little tiny Kris kicked butt. Imagine that.
 

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LOL - just let it go, they can't get past Kris beating the towering talent. Little tiny Kris kicked butt. Imagine that.

Yeah. Unfortunately I don't see Adam as a towering talent so Kris beating him was not that big a surprise. What was a surprise was that he beat anyone who was so pimped by the show.

Eh, I just don't want these people to dredge up all the stupid things they already said in May 2009. I need to move on. I've seen Kris perform and I don't need to be told anything that doesn't jibe with what I've seen. I've also seen Adam perform, and - ditto.

I didn't even watch. I saw a minute of Katy Perry.. and went.. Okay no. and then I saw Gavin Rossdale.. and Santana sounded good. Gavin looked and sounded horrible. That's all I watched .. Oh and I saw Justin win artist of the year. Ha! I was happy for him.

Pat should not wear glitter pants. EVER. No one should. Maybe Lady Gaga if they could get her into some pants. No boys though. Not Adam. No one.

It's so weird Justin Bieber would get Artist if the Year. I mean, he's on the covers of teen magazines. Is that all pop music is, now? Dictated by the tastes and buying habits of 12 to 15 year olds? Are any adults really fans of Bieber? Does he really deserve Artist of the Year? I think it's sad.
 

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Kerry and Melinda (TopIdol blogger) are both pathetic in my eyes. They are both adult women who are over-invested in a reality TV show and spend their time writing length articles about the triumphs and failures of Idol contestants :roll:.
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LOL - just let it go, they can't get past Kris beating the towering talent. Little tiny Kris kicked butt. Imagine that.
Well, I don't see they are different from Idol fans who say Crystal should have won over Lee. Lee is already getting comments like "Lee is not a worthy winner" because his album is not selling well. If Crystal's album outsells Lee's, it would get worse.
 

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It's so weird Justin Bieber would get Artist if the Year. I mean, he's on the covers of teen magazines. Is that all pop music is, now? Dictated by the tastes and buying habits of 12 to 15 year olds? Are any adults really fans of Bieber? Does he really deserve Artist of the Year? I think it's sad.

Well, the AMA nominations are based on radio airplay and the winner is determined by public vote. If Gaga or Beiber hadn't of won it would have been wrong IMHO. They really saturated the airwaves this year. No one came close. Plus he's like 16 in 20 years he'll be back like the NKOTBSB and can have a feel good reunion tour with himself. Win Win.

I wouldn't put Melinda anywhere near Kerry either. Melinda has a grasp on reality for one thing. Kerry's out to lunch completely. There comes a time when you just have to accept the results of an Idol vote, and move on. Melinda's blog is a business really, she's selling content and advertising and what she writes is driven by what brings people to her site. Top Idol's snarky and may be meaner than I'd be at times, but she's certainly not crazy.

Lee is already getting comments like Lee is not a worthy winner" because his album is not selling well. If Crystal's album outsells Lee's, it would get worse.

That's always going to happen, and yes it would irritate me too. I've spent a year in irritation - LOL - so I know, but really, honestly sales aren't the be and end all to me as a listener of music. At the end of the day the only reason I buy music is if I like to listen to it. It's only the snarky comments re: sales that piss me off it isn't the actual sales totals. Because I really could care less how many Cd's they sell I just want to like the music.

Don't get me wrong I'd be happy about good sales, but it's not a determining factor of success for me. Although it may be to the music industry.

YouTube - KA interview mix.wmv

Plus, look! Michael watched the E True Hollywood story thing so I don't have to. Sweet!

Adam Lambert's 'E! True Hollywood Story': The 10 best quotes/moments | PopWatch | EW.com

Also Cale!
YouTube - Cale Mills with Kris Allen on NORD
 

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Well, the AMA nominations are based on radio airplay and the winner is determined by public vote. If Gaga or Beiber hadn't of won it would have been wrong IMHO. They really saturated the airwaves this year. No one came close.

I guess it depends on where you are, or something, but I don't hear Bieber a lot on the radio. They don't play him (usually) on the main HAC station, and they don't seem to play him all that much on the pop station. Lady Gaga, on the other hand - yes.


Plus he's like 16 in 20 years he'll be back like the NKOTBSB and can have a feel good reunion tour with himself. Win Win.

haha!

I don't know what else to say. It is what it is. But I don't have to like it. :p

That Kris interview: I'm extremely disappointed at that "no" re the AWM video becoming the official video. Even though he left the door open. Obviously, nothing could top that video for getting attention, selling the song, and selling Kris and his band.

So let's not use it.

Here's a tweet I just read: Isn't Kris Allen an American Idol guy? Pandora thinks I'd like him, and it's right. Hmmm, I'm questioning my anti-Idol stance.
 
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I guess it depends on where you are, or something, but I don't hear Bieber a lot on the radio. They don't play him (usually) on the main HAC station, and they don't seem to play him all that much on the pop station. Lady Gaga, on the other hand - yes.

Well it's not radio but people have watched his videos on youtube a billion times. Someone is listening to his music.

Here's a tweet I just read: Isn't Kris Allen an American Idol guy? Pandora thinks I'd like him, and it's right. Hmmm, I'm questioning my anti-Idol stance.

Hee! That's awesome. The whole anti-idol bias is so stupid anyway.

I'm disappointed that AWM video isn't official too, but really it's doing it's job out there on youtube. It would be good to see it on tv, and other video sites but I saw a Dj tweet it this morning and then they played the song so it is helping and just coming from Kris himself it also publicizes Kris's youtube channel. I love it though I really do. Kris should get his friends to make the next video he does. Pay them big bucks.
 

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I don't know what to say about this but do you think it will be Hedley, the full band, or just Jacob and Dave? I'm hoping just Jacob and Dave, since it will probably only be Kris and Cale. I would hate for Kris and Cale to be on the same bill as the full Hedley band, because that would be unfair competition.

Anyhow - I love Sonoma County, Kris, and Jacob - wish I was going. But - the "worlds colliding" thing is really weird, to me. Jacob meeting Kris. God knows what will come of that.

Today's Mix...Mix 104.9 5th Annual Chris-Mix

Hee! That's awesome. The whole anti-idol bias is so stupid anyway.

Yeah, of course it is - though maybe it's justifed, sometimes. Kris is really different from the sometimes cheesy, talent-pageant idol contestants of the past. I had an anti-Idol bias, before, myself. Before Season 7, anyhow.

I'm disappointed that AWM video isn't official too, but really it's doing it's job out there on youtube. It would be good to see it on tv, and other video sites but I saw a Dj tweet it this morning and then they played the song so it is helping and just coming from Kris himself it also publicizes Kris's youtube channel.

Well, I agree, but I don't think I was saying that, quite. I'm not disappointed it isn't official, exactly. I'm disappointed he said "no" to it becoming the official video - which I assume means there will be a different official video. That would be heartbreaking because this one is it. It's just what Kris needs. (Though it was a tentative rather than a definite "no.")

On the other hand there may be no official video coming at all, but I don't think anything he has said indicates that.

[Wow, that Lambert bio on TV really seems to have brought the anti-Kris Glamberts out of the woodwork on twitter. Not that many, but still - way more than usual.]


Here are a few pictures.

http://www.pe.com/multimedia/slideshow/2010/20101121_lifehouse/index.html#16

Since you're interested in radio promo I think this is really interesting. I don't know why but I seem to remember this guy working on promo for LLWD (could be wrong about that, though). Anyhow, as you can see, Hedley's Perfect is being promoted to HAC, and there is Lee DeWyze and Sweet Serendipity - but under the Jive label, Kris and AWM are not being promoted by this guy.

ricksalvador

So this is somewhere a record label cound spend money to promote an artist, should they choose to spend it.

about rick

Aaaand...some more great pictures:

KA SF 11-21-10 - a set on Flickr

I feel lonely.

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I feel lonely.

LOL - I was following the bus in a snowstorm meltdown on twitter. Cale was making me laugh.

I don't know what to say about this but do you think it will be Hedley, the full band, or just Jacob and Dave? I'm hoping just Jacob and Dave, since it will probably only be Kris and Cale. I would hate for Kris and Cale to be on the same bill as the full Hedley band, because that would be unfair competition.

Anyhow - I love Sonoma County, Kris, and Jacob - wish I was going. But - the "worlds colliding" thing is really weird, to me. Jacob meeting Kris. God knows what will come of that.

Today's Mix...Mix 104.9 5th Annual Chris-Mix

It is weird isn't it? 8O It's an acoustic night so I'd imagine just Jake and Dave, Kris and Cale. Hee. That station has the AWM video up too - big, with a little Hedley video underneath. :)

What else were you saying? I went advanced and now I can't see what you said.. hmm.. something about bitterberts coming out of the woodwork. It seriously never fails. I don't understand why they can't just be happy with Adam's success. He's fine. The world is still turning. It's all good people.

The label must not be pushing promotion for AWM. I guess they decided to release it to radio and see if it will sink or swim on it's own. It's keeping it's little head above water though, and seems to be picking up steam. Kris is always slow out of the gate, it's always worked out okay for him though.
 

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I now have gone advanced, myself. Had to, as it wouldn't let me post a "quick reply," for some reason. So now I can't see your post.

All this stuff about AWM has me on tenterhooks. I only waited a year for this song to be released, after all. And now it has all this fan support, plus the video is so good, and the tour is creating its own kind of buzz, on twitter and elsewhere - and yet the label is just putting it out there? - to sink or swim, on its own? I'm not really sure what is going on, and if it was just clearer what was going on, that would help. For example, if the label let us know they are definitely not going to support the song, we would know what steps we have to take. Or if they let us know the opposite, we would also know what to do. When people ask Kris, "Is the song going for adds?" does he know, or doesn't he? Is he allowed to say? If the answer is "no," why can't he be advised to say so? Are we waiting for nothing? At this point, I almost don't care what Jive is going to do, as long as we find out what it is. I'm getting tired of being kept guessing. It's not a great way for the label to treat fans.

Thanks for the info about the concert being acoustic. I wish it was the full KAB. They are so good acoustic.

PS. Now we know why Torres wears his hair long. lol
 
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All this stuff about AWM has me on tenterhooks. I only waited a year for this song to be released, after all. And now it has all this fan support, plus the video that is so good, and the tour which is creating its own kind of buzz, on twitter and elsewhere - and yet the label is just putting it out there, to sink or swim on its own? I'm not really sure what is going on and if it was just clearer what was going on, that would help.

I'm thinking they don't want to spend too much money on promotion at this point. I'm not holding my breath for an official video. I don't want another one anyway since that one is so perfect.

Take Hedley for example. They never made an official video for Old School and yet that song was everywhere. Sometimes the returns aren't enough to justify the costs.

What did you think about the Examiner article that mentioned a video for an acoustic BWCU? Want.