Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol
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Isn't the box in SWHFTM wooden? I watched the video again in my iTunes, full screen, and the front panel is definitely wooden.
Wow, that Star reporter is seriously passive-aggressive.
Wow, that Star reporter is seriously passive-aggressive.
What's Adam doing at the SAG awards? With that and the Grammy "reporting from the red carpet" gig, I'll never believe anymore anyone who tells me that Adam is all about the music. At least, he's not performing on the Grammy's... but he seems more interested in parading on red carpets than performing.
I don't know. Is that on TV tonight? Is he just attending, or what?
To be on AI, the Idols must have had to join AFTRA (American Federation of Television and Radio Artists), but not SAG. But Adam was in the TFM video and it played as a short subject in a theatre prior to the MJ movie. So in order to be in a theatrical movie he would have to join SAG, I'm guessing. (That's a lot of abbreviations, there.) But that doesn't mean he gets to be at the show.
Are you saying he's on the red carpet for those awards too? Sheesh, what a fame *****. They don't let you say ***** on this forum.
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Isn't it a double-edged sword though? The guy is everywhere, but it's never (or rarely) about his music, his album, etc. Wasn't he supposed to be the best musical artist to come out of AI, evah? I don't know. I guess he comes off for me as having fame-***** tendencies, and that's turning me off even more than everything else. I wouldn't want to be a fan of that kind of "musician".
ETA: The show is playing on Global in Canada, so I guess it's also airing in the US.
ETA: The show is playing on Global in Canada, so I guess it's also airing in the US.
It is I think. Overexposure and media saturation could be a problem for him. And he should be really careful. Kris has the opposite problem as he tends to go to ground and never surface. A happy medium would be good guys.
I think Adam's just having fun and going to everything he can, since he's probably been trying to get into the in crowd in LA for years. But yeah, it's a fine line between love and hate with the media. Look how they turned on Clay.
No, it's not on. Unless it's on some ... oh, yeah, I found it. It's on TBS. I don't usually watch TBS. Is Adam on it or just attending?
BTW...Have you guys ever heard why Adam's short didn't end up running prior to the MJ movie? That was really odd. And I never heard why. I read his movie was replaced by two cartoons.
You're talking about the TFM video? I have no clue. I just heard that it was not airing before the MJ movie.
Adam must only be attending. Or maybe he'll present an award, I don't think anyone knows for sure.
The thing is, I know Adam must have wanted to go to that type of stuff for years. My problem is, doesn't he have to establish himself as a musician beforehand? Otherwise, doesn't he look like a Paris Hilton type who goes to all kinds of things, but doesn't really have a reason to be there. Okay, I may be harsh a bit with the Paris Hilton comparision, but I hope you get what I mean.
Adam must only be attending. Or maybe he'll present an award, I don't think anyone knows for sure.
The thing is, I know Adam must have wanted to go to that type of stuff for years. My problem is, doesn't he have to establish himself as a musician beforehand? Otherwise, doesn't he look like a Paris Hilton type who goes to all kinds of things, but doesn't really have a reason to be there. Okay, I may be harsh a bit with the Paris Hilton comparision, but I hope you get what I mean.
I didn't hear anything official. Just rumours (and you know how reliable those are) that they didn't want the musical focus to not be on MJ at the movie. Truth? rumour? No idea. Maybe it was just because the movie (2012) sucked big time and they didn't want to have to pay a ton of cash to promote it like that.
I do get your point. And yes, when you look at the most recent pictures Lindsey Lohan is usually in there with him - that's called a bad sign kids - (Lindsey is a big idol fan and has been supportive of Matt too.. so don't really want to pick on her completely) but, yeah, I'd cut down on the red carpets. Adam loves that fashion stuff though, so I'm sure he's dying to go and he's bringing a giant crazy fanbase with him so they all probably want him there. It's just a fine line. Kris and Adam need to get their tour dates settled.
Yes! I was starting to worry, but Cale's tweet today was reassuring.
LOL. That was almost what I wanted to write at first. The movie was almost a flop, considering what it probably cost to make it.
Well, they already made the short, so I don't know what it would have cost them to play the short before the movie. Unless they hadn't ordered a lot of prints made yet. I guess that's possible. As to the other theory ("they didn't want the musical focus to not be on MJ at the movie")...I don't think Adam could steal focus from Michael Jackson. If anyone was worried about that, well, it kind of makes me laugh.
Whatever criticism you have of Adam does my heart good, of course..
But I guess I'm going to disagree with both of you, even though I understand where you're coming from. Have you ever thought about this? -- he has nothing to fall back on. He's had almost ten years of trying to get somewhere in show business, not really as a musician but as a performer, in musicals and revues. And he didn't get far. So if his alternative is to go back to living in roach-infested studio apartments, he's going to try to do whatever he can do in show business to get some success. Hopefully, long-term success, and some security. I think that's his goal. He used to have stars in his eyes, but after being in show business a while, I think he's become pragmatic.
You guys heard he's going to be interviewing people on the red carpet at the Grammys, right? -- for Entertainment Tonight. That doesn't have much to do with being a serious musician, but it's a good gig that might get him more good gigs with ET. I think if they offered him a job, he'd probably take it. The guy wants to buy a house, he said so. I don't blame him.
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I guess I don't really blame him either (I posted about that Grammy thing in a post earlier. BTW!). I guess it just doesn't impress me if I judge him as a musician (or a performer), which is what I would like to do. It's the way I judge other Idol alums like Kelly, Daughtry, Carrie, J-Hud, etc, who you don't see parade on red carpets unless they have a reason to do so. I have respect for that. Concentrate on you art first, then the red carpets. It's also the way I judge my two favs. David and Kris are establishing themselves as musicians who write their music, perform whenever they can, wherever will have them and are hard-workers. It's a bonus that they also do good things like visit hospitals and build houses for other people.
Adam comes across as a spoiled child amidst all that. Work on you music, get off the red carpet, perform your music and then I'll respect you. Until then, you're just another "celebrity" who doesn't really have any reason to be famous.
ETA: Of course, I know all that is my opinion. The media obviously don't think like me.
Adam comes across as a spoiled child amidst all that. Work on you music, get off the red carpet, perform your music and then I'll respect you. Until then, you're just another "celebrity" who doesn't really have any reason to be famous.
ETA: Of course, I know all that is my opinion. The media obviously don't think like me.
Yeah, you're right - working with ET can only be a good thing for someone looking to forward their entertainment career. I agree with that and I don't blame him at all for using every opportunity either. I think he's got to be careful about being everywhere without living up to the hype, but you know if Oprah's on your side.. really it's not a bad thing at all.
And I think you are right Ross. I think Adam is very appreciative and pragmatic about where he is right now in his career. He has been at this a long time waiting for his break. It's sort of amazing that he's been in the background for so long.
There's just been so many red carpets for Adam. I wonder why that is? Is it something that they are pushing for? Just a case of him wanting to attend? Or is it the award shows looking for celebrities to walk the carpet?
And I think you are right Ross. I think Adam is very appreciative and pragmatic about where he is right now in his career. He has been at this a long time waiting for his break. It's sort of amazing that he's been in the background for so long.
There's just been so many red carpets for Adam. I wonder why that is? Is it something that they are pushing for? Just a case of him wanting to attend? Or is it the award shows looking for celebrities to walk the carpet?
I see what you're saying, missaddicted. I agree the best way is to concentrate first on the work. The red carpets and the fame and all the rest of it will follow. But for some people, it also seems to work in reverse. Have you ever noticed how some celebrities who are seen almost as no-talent jokes end up being respected and successful? Cher is one I can think of who most people regarded as talentless and silly, who ended up winning an Academy Award. And Mark Walberg started out as Marky Mark, a white-boy rapper dropping his trousers, and grabbing his junk in Calvin Klein commercials. Nobody respected him or took him seriously, then. And Jacob Hoggard is another one who is getting some respect but who started out as basically a fame *****.
The people you name are good examples, ross, you're right. I bet they put in the work to be respected though. Of course, Adam could turn around and start impressing me with his work ethic, but it's just not happening right now.
And for a guy who supposedly has been waiting for so long for his break, you'd think he would want to perform for the big audience that he has now, to be proud of having an album out. His music, finally! I guess I just don't really get that from him.
And for a guy who supposedly has been waiting for so long for his break, you'd think he would want to perform for the big audience that he has now, to be proud of having an album out. His music, finally! I guess I just don't really get that from him.