Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol

[missaddicted]

Yeah, numbers. I find them somewhat interesting, but when it vears (that's a word right?) into over-analysis, they're useless. David and Kris's situations are different anyway, and while I don't mind the simple comparisions, most often it doesn't bring anything else than fanwars to go too deep in the analysis.

I don't think the wall in the audition room changes anything to anything. Most people are definitely not focusing on that. (And half of David's face was covered with the map anyway!)

They played MIKA during the "Kara and Kristen are BFFs" montage. I almost fell out of my chair. MIKA on AI! They should invite him to perform, that'd be great.

The episode was way better than yesterday. Lots of pretty good people, but I can't say that any of them really left an impression. We didn't see a lot of people that are on the top 24 list either, which I found surprising.

The Jermaine guy (another one!) was pretty good, but I think I liked the beat-boxer the best. He has no chance on Idol, but I find that sort of thing very impressive! That guy at the end (Matt) was okay, but a bit rough. And honestly, maybe I have a cold heart, but I find it hard to feel sympathy for a guy who spent 4 years behind bars because he robbed a bank. Yes, you were "only" 15, but dude, you robbed a bank. Is it just me?

 

[missaddicted]

I know Randy's completely useless, but I'm still curious about his interview with Jim:

'Idol' Season Nine Is A 'Very, Very Different Season' | News Video | MTV

Mustering some courage to watch...

 

[SleepinIn]

I'm not sure what you mean, but I think I agree with you.

You should always agree with me. I am always right afterall. lol

Percentages, charts, graphs.... head hurting.. might explode.

The ex-convict guy was pretty good. Matt I think he said his name was. I was actually more impressed by the song choice. He picked the right song for himself for sure. Trouble is the right word.

So, like I was saying yesterday Adam is coming to MOD, and the Aftershow's Jessi said she would be interviewing Adam next week for MTV so they talked about Adam on Oprah. Now, Jessi likes Adam - but she was a bit snarky about the Oprah audience, said they were looking very "mature". She was excited about the interview though.

Randy interview? Off to watch...

 

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And honestly, maybe I have a cold heart, but I find it hard to feel sympathy for a guy who spent 4 years behind bars because he robbed a bank. Yes, you were "only" 15, but dude, you robbed a bank. Is it just me?

"Four birthdays," you mean. The way this guys puts stuff (also, he was "looking for adventure") strikes me as self-dramatizing. You do a crummy thing, don't try to make it seem colorful and romantic. And don't expect missaddicted and me to give you sympathy, you crook.

When I said I wanted to see Kris on the backdrop, it wasn't because I thought it changes anything. I just wanted to see it, for the hell of it. Fan stuff, I guess.

 

[missaddicted]

When I said I wanted to see Kris on the backdrop, it wasn't because I thought it changes anything. I just wanted to see it, for the hell of it. Fan stuff, I guess.

Oh, okay, I understand! Yeah, some Cook fans on twitter were also complaining that Cook's face was half-hidden!

We could see Jordin though, let's be happy about that!

 

[ross 1]

I really can't listen to this Randy stuff. I mean, he's not my favorite. I skipped ahead to his criticizing Kris/Adam.

It was actually more referring to Adam (I thought.) Referring to Gaga/Justin Hawkins.
And the lack of musical identity. I don't know why he put Kris in the same category.

I don't think you can call Kris someone who doesn't know who he is musically. Though I will say: he probably knows more, now, than he did at the time of his album. And it's still an "Idol album," but, dawg, you can't say that's exactly his fault. It's still organic.

I can't listen to the whole interview, just because he's too boring.

And I guess Randy thinks Idol is the "singing Olympics." But I don't.

We could see Jordin though, let's be happy about that!

Yayyy!! (Not really.)

 

[SleepinIn]

We could see Jordin though, let's be happy about that!

Sure, there's always that. :roll:

I don't think you can call Kris someone who doesn't know who he is musically. Though I will say he probably knows more, now, than he did at the time of his album. And it's still an "Idol album," but, dawg, you can't say that's exactly his fault.
It's still organic.

I think it's a completely different kettle of fish to compare Kelly and Carrie and Daughtry to Adam and Kris -- like the numbers thread, there are so many variables. Plus Adam and Kris's albums have been out for less than 6 months. While Randy's looking at the cumulative sales totals for artists that have been out for years. Even if he only looked at opening numbers.. still so many factors come into play.

Musical Olympics. Well, great they can sing disco and Broadway.. now try to be a consistent artist.

 

[missaddicted]

God, Randy Jackson is so stupid. I think Kris's album is right in line with how he portrayed himself on Idol. I don't see how Randy doesn't think so. And David Cook? The guy's been recording music since he was 15, he knows exactly who he is.

And Randy? Ke$ha or Lady Gaga are not the only singers who make records today. They are still plenty of people who can emote. Somebody send the Dawg some albums. When people sing the same old songs year after year after year, it stops being interesting.

ETA:

Musical Olympics. Well, great they can sing disco and Broadway.. now try to be a consistent artist.

Exactly. Randy's not making any sense. But that's nothing new.

 

[SleepinIn]

Exactly. Randy's not making any sense. But that's nothing new.

Ellen. Please be good. You are my last hope.

 

[ross 1]

I always dislike the way everyone gets compared to Daughtry and Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson, because they're the three most "successful." My feeling is that these days, the broader the appeal, the less creative/original the performer.

With due respect to Adam, I think Kris was the most versatile and by far the most musically interesting and mature contestant last year, and he won due to that. Not because he narrowly fit a certain genre. Yet he remained true to who he is.

So basically what Randy says usually works is the opposite of what works for Kris.

I think he has a point, in his way. The most successful post-Idol recording stars are easy to pigeonhole. And that does bring success, especially in this era of marketing over artistry. I mean, yes, if Kris was a country singer, or an r & b singer, and won, and put out a country or r & b album, it would be simple to pigeonhole him, and, likely, to market him.

But there's usually room in the marketplace for more original and creative musicians, too. So I guess I think Randy is only seeing part of the picture.

 

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Ellen. Please be good. You are my last hope.

LOL! I don't know why I'm laughing.

Does anyone else think this is going to be a weird season? Last year they had a very friendly, likeable, down to earth group, and they're probably trying to recreate that. Which won't work.

As for the emphasis on girls. Does anyone else think there seem to be just as many (if not more) good guys as there are girls? Yet it seems they want a girl and are spinning it so we're supposed to think the girls are better.

 

[missaddicted]

Does anyone else think this is going to be a weird season? Last year they had a very friendly, likeable, down to earth group, and they're probably trying to recreate that. Which won't work.

You know, I hate the judges and all that stuff, but the stuff I've seen from the people in the top 24 is my glimmer of hope right now. A lot of girl musicians too, which I'm totally down with. I'm not saying that all of them seem interesting, but there are at least a couple of guys and a couple of girls who've caught my attention. About the girls being better, who knows. They'll probably push for a girl all season, but we all know that what they want is not always what America wants. I think they should know that by now, but they don't seem to.

ETA: Also, the top 12 will be 6 guys and 6 girls, so it's not like they can put 12 girls there. I sure hope some good guys will make it. Of course, all the guys could suck because they didn't choose the right ones, hoping that they girls would just look better in comparision. They're twisted. Still, I'd tell them: be aware of the fangirls!

 

[SleepinIn]

But there's usualy room in the marketplace for more original and creative musicians, too. So I guess I think Randy is only seeing part of the picture.

And, Kris and Adam could put out the music that Randy wants or they could put out the music that they want. Success is more than records sold. It's the ability to put out something that speaks to your own musical evolution, and soul. For me for you Dawg, anyone that doesn't recognize the beauty of Falling Slowly isn't going to be someone who's opinion I'm going to hold to a gold standard.

They'll probably push for a girl all season, but we all know that what they want is not always what America wants. I think they should know that by now, but they don't seem to.

No, they don't do they? It will be interesting. I haven't really seen anyone I'm really excited about but, it's still too early for me. I usually don't really pay too much attention until we get out of the audition stage.

 

[missaddicted]

For me for you Dawg, anyone that doesn't recognize the beauty of Falling Slowly isn't going to be someone who's opinion I'm going to hold to a gold standard.

Amen, sister. Amen!

 

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And, Kris and Adam could put out the music that Randy wants or they could put out the music that they want. Success is more than records sold. It's the ability to put out something that speaks to your own musical evolution, and soul.

Really well put.

You should always agree with me. I am always right afterall.

You are! You are!

For me for you Dawg, anyone that doesn't recognize the beauty of Falling Slowly isn't going to be someone who's opinion I'm going to hold to a gold standard.

I know. Pathetic.

 

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calevis24 If we ever send a cd into space with one song on it, it should be "faithfully" by journey, just so the aliens know what they're in for

LOL!!

This was on the AI website today, so I guess they aren't complaining (I'm surprised the numbers arent't a bit more up to date):

Idols in the News:
Season 8’s Top 2 finalists are continuing to perform well with music sales. Kris Allen’s single, “Live Like We’re Dying,” has sold approximately 500,000 downloads, charting at #27 on the Soundscan singles charts. Adam Lambert’s debut single, “For Your Entertainment,” has sold just over 200,000 downloads. Kris Allen’s album has sold about 240,000 copies, and Adam’s has sold about 460,000.

 

[ross 1]

Guys, help me out. How many actual acoustic perfomances did Kris do on Idol?
On Top 2 night he did What's Goin' On acoustic (he did ANS with just piano the first few bars, then the band joined him). SWHFTM was acoustic. And Heartless. Were there any others? Was the first version of ANS acoustic? (TIA)

 

[missaddicted]

The band joined him as well the first time he did ANS. Just checked in my iTunes and I think you pretty much have them all. He was only accompanied by a piano and a bass guitar in TMYFML, does that count as acoustic? I guess no with the bass guitar plugged in, but then there was also a bass guitar in SWHFTM.

ETA: Oh, there were strings also in TMYFML.

 

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The band joined him as well the first time he did ANS. Just checked in my iTunes and I think you pretty much have them all. He was only accompanied by a piano and a bass guitar in TMYFML, does that count as acoustic? I guess no with the bass guitar plugged in, but then there was also a bass guitar in SWHFTM.

Wow, thanks, you're good! I wanted to know, in case I feel like answering some of the many people online who always say, "he was an acoustic performer on Idol." Because, on the show, and in his Idol iTunes stuff, he usually didn't go acoustic. Sometimes he did stripped down arrangements that I think people are confusing with acoustic. Or he played acoustic guitar sometimes on band arrangements. Of course Heartless was surprising precisely because it was solo acoustic, so it wasn't like he was always doing that.

 

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Opening for Kris in the Philippines:

Boyce Avenue:

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JabbaWockeeZ:

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