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Anoop. Kicking off the show, plus negative judges' comments: not a good thing.
I actually thought he was a bit better than usual, more relaxed. It was fun to see him working the crowd. Vocal was weak, though; he wasn't really hitting the high notes; it reminded me of My Prerogative. He could use some vocal training. Unfortunately, I think without that, this is as good as he gets, right now.

Megan has such an odd voice. I try but I can't get totally used to the sound. I thought for once she wasn't bad. Not great but not as bad as usual. The judges' comments bothered me. Not because of anything I disagreed with, but because they just aren't very good judges, and they really prove it every once in a while, in their inarticulate rambling.

Danny. I think I say something like this every week: he has a pretty amazing voice.
I don't especially love his taste in songs, but they do show who he is as an artist and what he wants to do as a recording artist (I think). He usually sounds very professional and polished, and this is maybe his best feature, to me. I really do like listening to him. His worst is that he's not a very interesting singer, sometimes. I don't especially find myself looking forward to his performances. He doesn't touch me a lot, even if Kara (I think it was) said he moved everyone in the audience tonight. Maybe you had to be there.

Allison was supposed to look (as Simon says) "current," I guess, but she looked like Pebbles, from the Flintstones, to me. All that was missing was a bone in her hair. I think her "look" did detract/distract a bit from her performance. But, hey, was it necessary for the camera to start at her feet and pan up her body to her head, three times (I think) ? No need to embarrass the poor kid.

Her performance was okay. I don't really get the love. I don't think she's so original, and I don't think her tone is all that nice to hear. I wrote in my notes, "She just always seems to be copying a rockstar style." Sort of similar to Simon's comments.

Scott definitely did give his best performance so far. I didn't love his actual singing but he was much better than usual, more connected, sincere, and mature. He needs to learn how to use what he's got a little better. For instance, he needs to stop sustaining notes, because he can't. He goes flat/sharp and strident when he tries to. He doesn't really know how to play his strengths and weaknesses.

I really didn't get Matt at all; the staging was a little unfortunate because he was presented as an idol and you have to be an idol to pull that off. I don't dislike him. I just don't get the love for his voice. He just seems to be off key all the time, to me. And kind of bleating.

Lil gave a pretty good performance (in yet another hairstyle); it was a good vocal, she has a good voice, but no magnetism, or something. She's really just not an artist, as far as I can tell. She would have been proving it week after week, by now, if she was. Part of it seems to be she has this killer diva voice but she just isn't a diva and can't really either get down and dirty, or else spiritual and uplifting. Or emotional. She's nice. Too nice for show business, probably.

Adam is awesomely talented, in terms of what he can do with his voice. And he seems to get those incredible effects without a whole lot of effort. In a way it's almost like he's too talented. In other words, how much do you like a display of talent, vs. a display of artistry? (Okay, Kara used this word to describe Kris, but I'm not using it for that reason or trying to compare them. It's something I've thought about a lot, re Adam.) Tonight was mostly a display of talent, and his talent amazes me. I would definitely go to one of his concerts. He even makes me like the kind of singing ("scream" singing, I call it) I usually can't stand.

Some time around boring performance number five or six, tonight, it occurred to me that Kris might get the pimp spot, or at least the next-to-last spot, and I thought, "Great, just as long as he doesn't have to follow Adam." Because I thought that would be the most jinxed pimp spot of all time. But he was absolutely awesome. In my not very humble opinion. He gets great effects and connects to the song without the overdone shouting, showing off, whatever, of a lot of performances, yet he really kills it. I love that. Plus, I get almost a lump in my throat listening to him sing, and I get that with very few singers. Great song choice, also (great song, period). Unfortunately, whoever gets the pimp spot gets truncated judges' comments, because of time restraints (because the frikkin' Osbornes Reloaded has to be seen by the world). Btw, Simon apparently is never going to give Kris a true rave, which I think costs him votes every time.
 
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I really liked Kris the best tonight -- aside from the fact that he picked a great song. He sang it really, really well. And I put him miles ahead of the others tonight.

I liked Allison next - I didn't even hate her clothes like the judges did. I thought she looked kinda cute - it's not an everyday look but I could see a singer wearing that for a show.. didn't have a problem with it at all.

Lil Rounds was next for me although I agreed with the judges that it didn't seem particularly current. She sang it well though.

Adam who I love -- I hated the song choice.. like really hated it. He can hit the notes though. I just didn't like the song he hit them in.. or the arrangement.. but mainly the song. blech.

Danny was next, he sounded good. I'm just not excited by it. Nothing offensive, nothing extraordinary.

Scott - He did well, but he just didn't do it for me. Sounded okay though.

Megan, and Anoop. Oh. Dear. Megan sounded awful and Anoop was a bit of a trainwreck for me.
 

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ross, we agree on several points, except for Lil, I guess, I thought she sounded horrible. Here's the review I had written before reading yours:

I hate the judges. Seriously. They're ruining my enjoyment of the show so much. Tonight, I felt bad for some of the contestants even if I don't even like them. I especially hate the "this isn't you" critique that they like so much.

Anyway, recap:

Anoop: Was he run over by a bus tonight, or what? I thought he was pretty good, not outstanding, but I think it was my favorite performance by him. I'm not a fan at all, but I felt that he had the right to be angry at the judges. Seriously, what do they want him to do? "This isn't you." Well, what is? I thought he represented himself well with the performance, but it's not something that I would ever buy. He seems to have a pretty rabid fanbase though, maybe TPTB don't want him going further than they want.

Megan: Again, "this isn't you". Personally, I didn't have a problem with the song choice. The girl just can't sing and has no rythym. I don't think the judges should've put her there in the first place and I hate that they're slamming her when she's not doing any worse than what she was doing in the semis.

Danny: Why did Ryan and him talk about his song choice from last week? "Poor Danny, he didn't get his first choice?" I thought he the emotion connection was good (of course), but I also thought his voice sounded shot and very forced. I'm totally over Danny right now, I'm just done with him.

Allison: Who cares about the outfit, judges? She's 16, as you like repeating, let her have some fun. I thought it was kinda good (except the guitar, it didn't add anything), but my problem is that she kind of always does the same thing and it's not something that I really enjoy. She's not really memorable to me because I tend to forget her voice and her performance really fast after she's done. She's the best of the girls though.

Scott: Probably his best yet. Not that that's saying a lot. I felt my mind wandering during his performance, I couldn't focus on him. His vocals were better than usual though, but again, his vocals are nothing impressive either.

Matt: I liked his passion and his delivery, but the vocals were really rough for me. Definitely not something I would want to listen to again. "This isn't you" again. I can't say that I really like him either he's in his "box" or not, but I applaud him for not wanting to be seen only as a JT clone.

Lil: Yuck. Good vocals, Randy, seriously? She sounded like a hot mess. It sounded shouty, forced and not enjoyable at all. MJ wrote that she came off as desperate and I totally agree. Being from Québec, Céline is pretty much an untouchable for me. I mean, I'm not a fan of her music, but she's always flawless when she sings. And Lil definitely wasn't. "This isn't you", Lil. Well, they've been telling her that since the beginning of the finals, and right now, it's not even a question of showing who she is, it's a question of proving that she's "something". I don't think she is really, she's just an ok singer and not much more than that.

Then, my Fox affliliate decided to drop the HD signal for my favorite two contestants. Ugh. I hate you, FOX44.

Adam: I had to watch it again, because at first, I was too distraught by the lack of HD image and sound and I was a bit WTF? on the song choice. Second time around, I was definitely entertained, but I'm not sure it sounded current at all. If that's the kind of stuff he wants to put on a pop album, I don't think I'll be onboard. He's unexpected though, I have to give him that! And I really love that on a show like AI. I still prefered his last two performances. The theme was so broad, why the hell would he want to choose that? It was probably awesome live, though, the crowd seemed to be on fire after his performance.

Kris: Yay for the pimp spot! I LOVED his performance, it was amazing! You go, my little musician! I would definitely buy his CD in a heartbeat because I can't get enough of his voice!

I like your assessment of talent vs. artistry in the case of Adam. I admire the talent a great deal, but I just wish there had been a little more artistry from him tonight. Without it, he loses me a bit, just like when he did Black and White. But yeah, I hate the screaming with a passion and Adam does make it somewhat enjoyable. And he comes off as so likeable too, I can't help but love him.

But so does Kris! I don't get a lump in my throat when he sings, but I adore his voice. At least, Simon told him that he showed more confidence, even though I think he showed the same quiet confidence tonight as he was doing previously. I hope since Matt let them down (and Anoop too I guess), that they will start pushing him more now. I mean, the guy does everything right. And he's so much more interesting than Danny for example, so much more artistic/likeable/genuine/original, name it.

OK, I'm done now!

ETA: Well, I'm not. I just read SleepinIn's review and I guess I'm the only one who thought Lil sounded horrible. She did to my ears anyway, almost worst than Megan!
 
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oh poor Matt. I forgot him.. that can't be good.

He seemed like he was trying too hard up there to be cool, which is always the kiss of death. He was lost in the shuffle neither good nor bad enough to be remembered.
 

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ross, we agree on several points, except for Lil, I guess, I thought she sounded horrible. Here's the review I had written before reading yours:

I hate the judges. Seriously. They're ruining my enjoyment of the show so much. Tonight, I felt bad for some of the contestants even if I don't even like them. I especially hate the "this isn't you" critique that they like so much.

missaddicted, I didn't love Lil, and you thought she sounded horrible, so I'd say that's not really disagreeing. It's just a difference in degree. I did say "good vocal," guilty of that, but I didn't especially mean it as great praise. When I watch/listen to Lil, I'm at a loss, lately. When I listen to her mediocre performances I hear a powerful voice that would probably sound fine singing gospel but sounds awful singing pop.

Judges: I never liked them, and that's why I never made it through a season before. Believe it or not I think I can stand them more this year because there are four of them. I don't think Kara's great, but she's plain-spoken, to the point, fairly serious; in a way she's like Jake Gold, a type that was missing on the show before. (Then she gets up and grooves to the music, and she's nothing like Jake Gold.)

I also hate the overuse of the criticism of wrong song choices. The song choices weren't actually all that wrong, the performances were just not good.

Danny: Why did Ryan and him talk about his song choice from last week?

His vote count fell off last week. So I think they wanted to put a spin on last week's performance, blame it on the song choice, anything. Maybe?

ETA: I tried to vote for Kris tonight; I got about three votes in; the rest of the time it was busy.
 
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Weird show tonight, LOL. The mixed up Ford music video, the impressions (funny), Scott "singing" completely to the left of his microphone during the group song, Megan's caw caw's. Well, Megan was just weird during all the show. She appeared to know that she was going home and it seems that it was what she wanted. I don't blame her, she must have known that she was not winning this thing. And she seemed to miss her son so much, so good for her that she's going back to him. I won't miss her horrible singing and her affected faces.

Ah, David, it seems like ages ago since you were a contestant on that Idol stage! It was good to see him back there, even though he's sounded better in the past. I still don't think they should've chosen that song as his new single, but at least, he has a new song out.

Lady GaGa left me a bit confused. She was better than she was last sunday on Star Académie, where she performed with a hat covering half of her face, but it's all a bit weird for me though. I give her credit though, she has artistry as Kara would say and she can sing, unlike Britney for example. I'm happy that Ryan didn't interview her though, she came off a bit stupid in the interviews she gave over the weekend in Montréal.

So, next week, songs from the year they were born. Theme which gave us the amazing Billie Jean last year. I just took a look at their birth dates and pretty much just realized that only Danny and Adam are older than me. Scott and Kris were born a day apart (June 21 and 22 1985) and Danny and Allison are also very close (with a 12 year difference though!) April 24 and 27.

It's funny I wanted to see if new videos had surfaced of the Pigotts' show this weekend and I found Oliver and his guest Sara Kamin singing To Make You Feel My Love: To Make You Feel My Love I think I prefered Kris' version though!

ETA: Is the video even appearing, I can't see it?
 

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Results show reactions.

Something happened this week and I suppose it's all hype, or whatever, but at last most of them seemed like people, to me. They cried, they hugged, they imitated each other, and I liked them all a whole lot more.

Megan. It was time to go. I don't hate her, I felt bad for her when she cried, even got a little misty eyed, myself, but I didn't think she was much of a class act overall. Thing is, you either got it or not, as a performer, and I figure you do your bit and then you wait for your judgement, and you try to show a little poise, or something. It seemed like whenever she got a bad opinion or whatever, it was smiley-face, vote-for-me-anyway, my-fans-liked-it, and all those goofy faces and moves. Be the cutest one, if you can't be the most talented. I found it sort of tacky. I don't know why. Probably she's a really sweet person. The other idols seem to like her, anyhow.

Cook is great. The song was nice, a little mild for him? Lady Gaga: I'm not a big fan of this campy shiz. Performance art. Wot-evah. Wikipedia says: Gaga states that she is "very in to fashion" and that it is "everything". "When I'm writing music, I'm thinking about the clothes I want to wear on stage. It's all about everything altogether — performance art, pop performance art, fashion. For me, it's everything coming together and being a real story that will bring back the super-fan. I want to bring that back. I want the imagery to be so strong that fans will want to eat and taste and lick every part of us."

Uh, thanks, anyway, Gaga. I'm good. Really.

By the way, missaddicted, I'm now hooked on Slezak's Idolatry videos and his recaps. Humor's my style, and I agree with a lot of his opinions. I never read this other guy before, but I liked his review of Kris.

Funny about Kris, man. I kind of just picked him as a possible favorite, originally, based on his interview on the AI site with Jesse. He seemed like a cool guy, and a good musician. I just played a hunch, then you directed me to his Over The Rainbow performance, and I liked his voice a lot. But his past couple of performances have totally surpassed my expectations, I mean, the guy is great.

Now I'm signing off to go watch the last episode of The Real World, a show I haven't watched the past few years but that I got into again recently. Basically because a band I like, Danger Radio, appeared on the show and I wanted to see them.

ETA: You're right, I don't see anything except blank space in your post where Oliver ought to be.

Megan's caw caw's. Well, Megan was just weird during all the show.

She was weird as hell. It made it easier for me to say bye-bye to her.

I meant to say this earlier: the whole "judges' save" is awful. I watched a video of somebody's elimination from a couple of seasons ago (I think it was Chris Richarson, who was onstage with Blake Lewis at the time). It was nice, there was none of the creepiness of Simon's cold judgements intruding on the sendoff. What the hell was that tonight? "Since she doesn't care about us, we feel the same way about her," or whatever he said. Woa. Glad they didn't go through the pretense, but it was pretty insulting to her. I don't like Simon and the judges intruding on this part of the show; let the person exit with a bit of dignity, that's all.

Two of the Wild Card picks were the bottom two vote getters. Way to pick 'em, judges.
 
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Recap time!

Danny: I'm trying so hard to get past my hate, just to be able to judge him with more objectivity, and my conclusion for tonight was that he was ok. His voice sounded very whiny and unpleasant in the slower part of the song, but I thought he was very good when he stepped out from behind the mic stand. I still can't believe this guy was my early favorite. Heh. And by the way, judges, he wasn't doing his original arrangement, it was somebody else's arrangement (I don't remember the name that Ryan said right now).

Kris: Wow, so the bus came for him tonight. I'm really scared of the shock boot now. Yes, the song choice was weird, but he wasn't THAT bad, judges. I really really liked his vocals as always and I thought he made the most out of this song, but I admit that after he had performed, I knew that it wouldn't be enough to maintain his momentum from last week. But I didn't except him to be panned like that by the judges. Come on, Kris can't leave, he's been so consistent until now! I'm very nervous for tomorrow.

Lil: I thought it was her best vocals in a long long while, but I agreed with the judges that she was extremely copycat. At least, the judges seem to be done with her as much as I am done with her, but still, I felt for her at the end. She's trying so hard to please them, but nothing is working. In that moment, she reminded of Carly from last year, who was never able to please Simon, even if she tried as hard as she could.

Anoop: Nice vocals, but for me he's the boring and forgettable one. But I didn't think he had to apologize for last week, I don't even like him but I thought he was right to be angry. I guess he had to do damage control.

Scott: Ugh. Punk, Scott? Really? No chance in hell. The song was all kinds of horrible and the vocals were not good at all. The falsetto was scary. Please leave.

By the way, Paula had lipstick on her teeth during Scott's critique, that made me chuckle a bit.

Allison: I thought she was awesome! Well done Allison!

Matt: I liked him tonight, but I think it has to do more with the energy he brought to the song. It could have been an incredibly cheesy performance, but it wasn't. I'm still not a fan of all his vocal stylings. It's also exactly the same reason I couldn't really get behing Theo last summer. Too many runs and riffs.

Adam: Wow, he's really Mr. Chameleon, isn't he? Loved loved it. I loved the hauting vocals and it was a truly inspired song choice. Simon gives standing ovations? I would've never have guessed...

Going home? Well, if Kris leaves before Scott, I think I'll throw my TV outside the window.
 

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Danny Gokey - “Stand By Me”
I think the Danny train has passed me by. I like him, I think he's a good singer, but there isn't a hope that I'll ever buy his CD. I hated the arrangement of this song and it kinda bored me.

Kris Allen - “All She Wants To do is Dance”
I like Kris a lot but I think he was really lost with this one. Plus standing in the audience wasn't the best choice for me, as not only was he lost vocally but it was hard to pick him out of the crowd. I think he would have been better served by just standing on the stage and singing.

Lil Rounds - “What’s Love Got to Do with It”
Yikes this was the ultimate copycat performance right down to the Tina Turner moves. IMHO this was a big misstep for her.

Anoop Desai - “True Colors”
Annop sounded good doing this song, but for me this song always brings Kalan and Theresa to mind. That was such a moment in CI. They still own it for me even though Anoop sang really well.

Scott MacIntrye - “The Search is Over”
This was just painful for me. He didn't sound in tune, and I don't know why the guitar was there. It was odd.

Allison Iraheta - “I Can’t Make You Love Me”
Allison has such a voice - I think she's amazing. This was really, really good. She didn't deviate much from the original song but somehow it was Allison.

Matt Giraud - “Part Time Lover”
I thought he was pretty good, especially after last week's performance. Shades of Buble - kinda groovy.

Adam Lambert - "Mad World"
This is the only song that we heard tonight that is currently on my ipod. Adam sang it beautifully and it was uniquely Adam, and really outstanding. I absolutely loved it. I'm with Simon - Standing O from me too.

ETA: Taking out the weird spacing.... Going home? Hope it's Scott, maybe Lil..
 

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Danny. You're beginning to piss me off. You can sing, but the choices are so safe. You don't seem to care about being interesting, and why should you? The judges love you, the public loves you.

"Kris performing second again?? WTF??" was my first real reaction to tonight's show. (Gokey went by in a blur, I didn't care about it one way or another.) I guess it wasn't Kris's most killer performance, but I'm pretty much a fan of his skills by now. His vocal control, and his musicianship...see,this is important, to me; I can't really call too many of the others musicians, and I don't think a lot of them rock. He rocks. So, the man-crush continues!! Get used to it, people!! Okay.

Judges' comments: the "self-indulgent" stuff baffled me. Other than that, I can't remember anything, but they were strangely negative about something the audience seemed to love and that I thought was fun and really well sung.

(BTW I dislike that staging. Surrounding the performer with people. I want to see the person onstage, alone.)

Lil: I disagreed with some of the judges' comments; I thought the song suited her better than a couple of the other things she's done lately, and I thought she was better than last week. Still, I agreed that she didn't bring anything special to it, nor does she ever seem to do that. She's really very boring and I wouldn't miss her if she left.

Anoop. I don't know. He was okay. He has stage presence, but his actual singing is always no better than good; his upper register (?) is very weak and he probably shouldn't go there. Every ballad he sings I can hear Kris singing it better. He was totally overpraised, I thought.

Scott. Well, that was embarrassing. The vocal was awful and the guitar playing was worse.

Allison. Nice but kinda same ol'. I don't know why but while I like her I don't see the greatness some people apprently do (Michael Slezak). Always good, but that's all.
She seems like a great kid, anyhow.

Matt. His reach exceeds his grasp. I don't know what Kara hears in him that I don't. I can't stand it when a singer can't hit the notes he tries for. I like the guy and keep hoping he'll kill it one time, but imho he never has. Don't know what the judges were all over him for, I think he did a good job but that's it.

Adam. I wish I liked this guy's performances more, I feel I should, somehow. I can't really put my finger on it. Partly because his tone isn't beautiful, to me, when he sings what should be a song that showcases his beautiful tone. Partly because he needs to show an awkwardness or rawness, something that makes him like a real person. He's slightly like a wind-me-up-and-I-perform doll. But he's still my No. 2 guy, the only other one I really like in this thing. I haven't loved either of his ballad attempts, though.

And I guess that's it. I haven't seen DialIdol, I'm curious. I'd guess Danny, Adam, and Anoop are safe, and I'd say bottom three may include my guy tomorrow night.

Kris: Wow, so the bus came for him tonight. I'm really scared of the shock boot now. Yes, the song choice was weird, but he wasn't THAT bad, judges. I really really liked his vocals as always and I thought he made the most out of this song, but I admit that after he had performed, I knew that it wouldn't be enough to maintain his momentum from last week. But I didn't except him to be panned like that by the judges. Come on, Kris can't leave, he's been so consistent until now! I'm very nervous for tomorrow.

Good point about knowing that it "wouldn't be enough to maintain his momentum from last week." I felt that also. Thing is, I have always kind of thought the judges' save might be used for him if it's used at all (because I can never see it being needed for Adam or Danny). Though there is Lil, also.
 
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Go check DialIdol, ross, it's scary. I don't think Lil is in any immediate danger. Maybe in two weeks.
 
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It's weird because there's an apparent "fanwar" going on between Matt/Kris/Anoop fans. People are a fan of either one of the three and absolutely don't get the other two (boring/not that good a singer/forgettable/uncomfortable to watch). Like we both adore Kris, ross, but we don't really get the other two. Anyway, it seems it won't matter anyway since the "show" obviously wants Danny and Adam. I just think Anoop and Matt both deserve to go before Kris.

I'm so done with AI after this year and I really mean it. I hope I won't change my mind next year. Aside from my two favorites, I just think that the rest of the talent is pretty mediocre. The most important thing though is that I'm so done with the judges and the manipulation. Maybe I should just stop reading the Grassy Knoll on TWoP (I won't, way too interesting), but the manipulation is so heavy-handed that it makes me sick for the contestants who have the courage to face America's judgement and the horrible judges every week. I have a lot of respect for them as people, if not for their talent!

ross and SleepinIn, you're both right about Kris' placement in the mosh pit. Not the best idea. Somehow, I don't think it was his idea. It didn't work for Matt last week, the odds that it would work for him this week were very low. I don't really see Kris deliberately choosing to perform in the mosh pit. Or maybe he did.
 
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I know right! I'm thrilled/surprised that Kris wasn't even in the bottom three! Yay! And all is good since Scott left. Still, I guess they had time to kill at the end of the show, because once again, the way they handled the reveal of the verdict was embarassing. Scott handled it with class.

I didn't think that Lil would end up in the bottom 3. Not that I didn't think it was deserved, but I didn't expect it. Anoop sure thought he was done by the look on his face when he was standing besides Scott.

The group song was live, nice surprise! It didn't sound amazing but I'm glad that they're finally doing them live.
 

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So the group sing was live? I thought so. Good. I'm all for live performances.
It was bad, but that's what live TV is about and (bizarrely) what makes it so good.

I felt bad for Scott, but the ovation he got should make him feel somewhat better. Idol is obviously difficult, crazy, and hectic for all the contestants, and he had to do it all with a major handicap. He seemed to do it with a lot of grace. I think he's amazing. It must be incredibly hard for a blind guy to do a live show like that week after week. Bravo, man.

My favorite moments were Frankie Avalon showing up to sing Venus to Simon, and Scott and Adam's Simon impression during the Ford shoot. lol

I'm thrilled/surprised that Kris wasn't even in the bottom three! Yay!

I was stunned. I guess DialIdol is not to be trusted. Glad to say.

And all is good since Scott left. Still, I guess they had time to kill at the end of the show, because once again, the way they handled the reveal of the verdict was embarassing. Scott handled it with class.

Really. Simon said two of the judges thought he should stay and two of them thought he should go, so...that's a no, isn't it? Yet they dragged it out so long, after that. They even had Scott begging, a bit. "I can please you another week, Simon." Painful.

They felt bad saying no to this guy and they didn't want the audience to hate them, either, I suppose, but imho they really needed to be cruel to be kind and just cut it short. I'm glad Scott had his 'Idol journey' but it was time to go.

Just watched Simon interviewed on the Fox news. He said, "I thought it was going to be an easy decision. To be fair to him, he was a bit better, and obviously the audience were going with him. And when you've got to say 'no,' in that situation, it's very intimidating. The easy thing to do is just to do the popular thing, you think, which is to say, 'yes,' but like I said to him in the end, I said, 'You know what? I made the decision not on you, but based on the other seven."

(Ha. I just played it back and wrote it down. Somehow it sounded like more when he said it. He came across better/nicer than he usually does on the show.)
 
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I feel the same.. *whew* It was the right decision.

It was bad, but that's what live TV is about and (bizarrely) what makes it so good.

This was such a good statement I have to repeat it. :) Live is so much better even when it's absolutely drecky (and there have been some really horrific group sings - I'm looking at you Canadian Idol) But it's always better to see something performed live in the moment (even if it's live to tape) than played back on tape and edited with the live pretense. You lose some of the magic that way.
 

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Live is so much better even when it's absolutely drecky (and there have been some really horrific group sings - I'm looking at you Canadian Idol) But it's always better to see something performed live in the moment (even if it's live to tape) than played back on tape and edited with the live pretense. You lose some of the magic that way.
I totally agree, and since you were agreeing with my original post, I guess I'm just agreeing with myself. And thrilled to be doing it. lol

But, yeah, you're right, SleepinIn, even live to tape beats all the editing.

Plus, as somebody on "another forum that shall remain nameless" has said a couple of times, about CI, the group sing gives you another chance to hear the contestants sing (this is assuming there are solos). Michael Slezak said basically the same thing on the EW website. (Do you read him or watch his Idolotry videos, SleepinIn? missaddicted has gotten me hooked on them! The videos, in particular, are great.) Myself, I don't ever think the group sing is much of an opportunity to judge any of the singers, but it's true we don't actually get to hear them sing all that much. In my case I tend to make my mind up who I like or not fairly soon, and usually don't change much. I'd be very surprised if I suddenly became a Lil Rounds fan, for instance...

Speaking of Lil, I have a feeling she will pull off a halfway decent or even perhaps stellar performance this week and the judges will fall all over themselves praising her, which will "justify" her having been in the competition all along, somehow. Of course, it really won't justify anything. On the other hand, she may just suck again and get voted out and then saved. Or not saved. I hope it's her turn, but I doubt it.
She's the new VFTW pick, also.

On another board, someone speculated that the reason Kris' original, full Over The Rainbow performance has been removed from YouTube (due to violation of terms of licensing agreement, or however YouTube puts it) is because he's going to sing the song this week. I thought the YouTube performance (audio only) was great, but that kind of performance is probably not strong enough to follow last week's misstep. Castro did it just last year, besides.

Only two more weeks to use judges' save.
 

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Speaking of Lil, I have a feeling she will pull off a halfway decent or even perhaps stellar performance this week and the judges will fall all over themselves praising her, which will "justify" her having been in the competition all along, somehow. Of course, it really won't justify anything. On the other hand, she may just suck again and get voted out and then saved. Or not saved. I hope it's her turn, but I doubt it.
She's the new VFTW pick, also.

Well, she sucked, Simon told her that she wasn't good and she had to justify herself once again (shut up Lil!), all good reasons for her to leave, but she won't since she had the pimp spot. Seriously, worst of the night, so not worthy of the pimp spot.

The judging was weird. And the worst thing is, they didn't even finish on time!

Well, here's the rest of my recap:

Allison: Well, David Cook did that song last year (as his "producers' choice" during the top 3, not his own choice), so it's hard not to compare. Anyway, I thought Allison did ok, I guess I won't ever be a big fan of her. Maybe in a few years, as she gets more mature. I still like her though, her performances just don't move me or really entertain me. The song sucks though, I could live my life without hearing it again and I would be just fine.`

Anoop: Zzzzz. The vocals were pretty, I have to give him that. He's just so boring though.

Adam: The song started and I thought that I was so going to hate it. But it was so entertaining and over the top that I just ended up loving it! I had a big ol' smile on my face throughout his performance. Screamy, screechy, whatever, I enjoyed most of it, especially the last part! Anyway, I want to see him live, the crowd was on fire again after his performance. Right now though, I'd like him to try to not be at such extremes (OTT "screamy" performance vs. head voice/falsetto balad) and do something more in the middle.

Matt: I hate when the judges say that he shouldn't perform out of his "box", but tonight was not good for me. His vocals were just not enjoyable and it felt like he totally lost the melody of the song in favor of all his runs or whatever you call them. Also, he had a great energy that I liked last week, but it wasn't there tonight.

Danny: I'm torn: was it really cheesy or really heartfelt. Hard to tell. Cheesy and heartfelt, I guess both can coexist. The thing is, I disagreed with Simon, it totally seems like he's losing his voice, it sounded rougher than ever tonight. But I agreed with Simon that Danny is very much unoriginal.

Kris: Whatever Randy. Yes, the lower register wasn't perfect, but he wasn't pitchy all the way through at all. He totally got to me with that performance. I don't know if it was the song of what, but I had chills and I was nearly moved to tears. THAT was heartfelt and not cheesy. I also have to give him props for choosing something original. I loved it, so beautiful and moving.

Lil: Well, see above. Actually, it bears repeating: she sucked.

Who's going home? I have no idea. Will the judges use the save? Maybe the best week to do it and than we can get rid of Lil next week.
 

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LOL - it's always good to agree with yourself. hee-hee. I'll agree with both of us - um, what were we talking about again? Oh, yes. Live is best.

I've watched some of the Idolotry videos but I always seem to forget or run out of time or something. I'll have to make a point of going over and checking them out. I've had such a hard time focusing on even the results shows this year. I don't know what the issue is for me.

Tonight's show....

I HATE the two judge tag team commenting thing they did tonight and HATE might be too mild a word. I really like the four judges on CI, but for some reason on AI they just eat time or something. It doesn't seem to be working. Paula might be a space cadet but balanced with Simon and Randy it somehow worked. Kara I'd vote you out dawg. You're well spoken and have a lot of interesting things to say but you interfere with the vote flow and make Idol too long when you talk and talk. It might be better when they have fewer Idol peeps.

My favourite hands down tonight was Kris. I didn't know the song but he brought so much emotion to it and performed it with so much heart. I just loved it. I would so buy that.

Adam was so fun, but I have to say I agreed with Simon.. it was a little annoying at times. That being said he sounded great and if I was at a concert and he sang it.. it would be fun and I'd be dancing away. BUT It was just really theatrical. Which is a funny complaint for someone who likes Adam, but the scale just seemed to tip a little bit into the too theatrical side. I don't know if I'm making any sense here.

Allison - I liked it a lot but 5 minutes later I couldn't remember what she sang. So it didn't stand out as memorable.

Matt - Kinda bored me actually. He sounded fine. Nothing special about the performance.

Anoop - I thought he sounded good. But same thing - didn't stand out really.

Lil - I don't know what Simon expects from Lil - I thought she sounded really good tonight - she had her own thing happening tonight, wasn't channelling Bette for me, or Tina. I liked it a lot.

Danny - He sounded good and it was heartfelt. I just don't know if that's enough for me.

Going home.. Matt? or Lil? What do you guys think?
 

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What? Oh, sorry, I was voting for Kris. I don't usually do more than throw a few votes his way, but tonight I was a little surprised there was no busy signal at all.

Check out mj's recap, she thought he was the best of the night and that Randy was nuts. Jim Cantiello's blog on MTV -- very funny -- also cites Kris. Hate the blind jokes, though. Scott's gone. Enough!

Okay. Let's plunge.

I Don't Want To Miss A Thing brought out what I think of as Allison's big weakness; she doesn't seem to think a lot about the words she's singing. It's a love song. Steven Tyler didn't sing it particularly well, but he gave the lyrics some meaning. Jacob Hoggard's version, on CI2, was vocally rough but he got all the meaning out of the words. I got the impression he was addressing the lyrics to someone. And in David Cook's version, as usual he seemed to be thinking about what he was saying. Yeah, I know. Allison's only sixteen (no! really! she is!), and maybe those lyrics don't have a lot of meaning for her, I don't know. But no lyrics seem to have any meaning for her, that I can ever see.

Anoop did perhaps the best job he's ever done on the show. I never give him any credit, so, okay, I just gave him some. He's a very good singer with a very good voice. But he's not great, and I doubt he ever will be great. He strains whenever tries to get any power into his vocals. He wisely chose a ballad, since he can't really seem to do anything else well, and, even more wisely, he ignored Tarantino's advice on how to sing it.

Danny looked about a million times better on TV without glasses, he was dressed better than usual, his beard was different, and he had his hair cut. Oh, yeah, this is a singing competition so I guess I have to say something about that. Well, if you think someone yelling Endless Love at the top of his lungs is really enjoyable, then vote for Danny.

This guy has never shown any artistry, any subtlety, any personality, charm, grace...okay, I'll stop now.

Adam now seems to be alternating each week between the OTT rocker performance and the eloquent ballad performance (so look for the ballad next week, folks). Adam also had a haircut and he looked a lot better with it. The eyeliner made his eyes look small and ferret-like in his somewhat pudgy face, though. Style maven ross says: Adam, baby, dawg, dude, whatevah, go a little easy at the Mac counter next week, 'kay? You got it goin' on, man, but at age 27 that look walks a fine line between "scene kid" and "hung over soccer mom from Van Nuys." Yeah, I'm talking to you, Mr. Lambert, Mr. Madly Talented. So apply the liner sparingly, babe.

The thing I liked about the performance was: it was another demonstration of what he can do with his amazing voice. The thing I didn't like about it was: it was another demonstration of what he can do with his amazing voice.

Kris. That performance was awesome. I don't usually have an emotional reaction to somebody singing on the show, but I was touched by the way he sang. And, weirdly, I was really kind of proud of this guy I don't even know and never heard of a couple of months ago. I think he has great stage instincts, great musicianship. He's an artist. Man! So, so beautiful. I loved it. Yeah, it started out rough and pitchy but it ended up so amazing.

I guess I can understand some people preferring Adam, but how can people prefer Gokey to that?

Lil. Suckage. Simon even managed to get in a left-handed dig about her while critiquing Allison. If she's the lowest vote getter tomorrow it would be weird if they saved her after weeks of de-pimping her.

Going home.. Matt? or Lil? What do you guys think?

I think Lil should go. Who will go -- if anyone -- I just can't predict.
 
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