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Someone on MJ's listed this site that has Aaron Platt as the director on TT.
Video Static: Music Video News: BOOKED: Kris Allen f/ Pat Monahan - Aaron Platt, dir.
There was some commenting re the director being Marco Puigg, but the guy from the site just re-posted that it was in fact Aaron Platt who was directing. (I guess he should know since he also states that their production company is one of the sponsors of the website)
production co: HELLO!
note: Hello! is a sponsor of VideoStatic.com
Now Kris said that the director was the same one that did LLWD.. but did he ever mention him by name? I think Aaron worked on LLWD too.
Aaron directed Strawberry Swing!! This could be a very interesting video even without Marco Puig.
Aaron Platt / Director of Photography
Goo goo dolls also have a robot tweeter. Interesting..
Video Static: Music Video News: BOOKED: Kris Allen f/ Pat Monahan - Aaron Platt, dir.
There was some commenting re the director being Marco Puigg, but the guy from the site just re-posted that it was in fact Aaron Platt who was directing. (I guess he should know since he also states that their production company is one of the sponsors of the website)
production co: HELLO!
note: Hello! is a sponsor of VideoStatic.com
Now Kris said that the director was the same one that did LLWD.. but did he ever mention him by name? I think Aaron worked on LLWD too.
Aaron directed Strawberry Swing!! This could be a very interesting video even without Marco Puig.
Aaron Platt / Director of Photography
Goo goo dolls also have a robot tweeter. Interesting..
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Yes, he did. Interviewed by Brian Mansfield, June 14th:
Mansfield: When will you shoot the video for The Truth?
Kris: I think the video's going to be filmed July 15, probably in L.A. I think we have the director: Marco Puig, the same guy that directed the first video is going to do the second, so we're pretty excited about that.
Also, on July 1st, on MTV with Cantiello, it seemed like he was talking about Puig.
There is a concept, kind of. I got sent a video treatment by the same guy who did 'Live Like We're Dying' [director Marco Puig] and it sounded interesting," Allen recently told MTV News. "So I think it's gonna happen. He's really creative. I really like him [and] it's a really weird treatment. In some way [Pat will be in the video], yes. The way that he was gonna be involved was not [romantic]. It kind of made sense.
He was the cinematographer on LLWD.
Kansas City Star reviews Adam and gets in two digs at Kris.
I tell you, I'm getting so mad at this stuff, I just hope some day Kris whups Adam's ass again at something. Just need these people to shut up.
Review | Adam Lambert at the Midland - KansasCity.com
Kris has actually done some things Adam hasn't. But that doesn't fit in with this scenario. Sold more post-Idol downloads, I think. His first single sold more than Adam's, which flopped. And it has sold more than WWFM, hasn't it?
And that dig about Barenaked Ladies and Counting Crows. First of all, they're well-known acts and there's no shame in opening for them. But Kris has also opened for Lady Antebellum and Keith Urban, both huge. And is opening for Maroon V, and Daughtry. All of which the guy conveniently forgot to mention. Kris also headlined concerts in the Phillipines that drew tens of thousands. People never mention this.(And headlined the Kiss concert and other radio concerts. The Jersey Shore thing, etc.) He's also headlining many dates on his tour, and that, also, has been conveniently ignored.
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ah, okay maybe it's still Marco then. I couldn't remember if he'd mentioned him by name.
Those reporters only see what they want to. From MJ's today I was a little surprised that LLWD had sold so much in comparison to the other AI singles released. especially in comparision to Carrie's singles I guess. I knew it was 1.5 million but I kinda forgot how much that was.
Those reporters only see what they want to. From MJ's today I was a little surprised that LLWD had sold so much in comparison to the other AI singles released. especially in comparision to Carrie's singles I guess. I knew it was 1.5 million but I kinda forgot how much that was.
Maybe Kris doesn't know what he's talking about, or they changed directors and/or concepts. I was kind of hoping for a creative Marco Puig video, so if it isn't him, I'm disappointed. Here are videos directed by Aaron Platt.
HELLO! • Music-videos
Also, Marco Puig doesn't seem affiliated with the "HELLO" production company.
The production company for LLWD was "Mighty 8", which Puig is affiliated with. So you may be right.
Video Static: Music Video News: BOOKED: Kris Allen - Marco Puig, director
(If you're not able to view the Aaron Platt videos try opening them up to full screen.)
Actually I don't know anything about that. How does it stack up against the other singles?
HELLO! • Music-videos
Also, Marco Puig doesn't seem affiliated with the "HELLO" production company.
The production company for LLWD was "Mighty 8", which Puig is affiliated with. So you may be right.
Video Static: Music Video News: BOOKED: Kris Allen - Marco Puig, director
(If you're not able to view the Aaron Platt videos try opening them up to full screen.)
Actually I don't know anything about that. How does it stack up against the other singles?
You'd probably do a great job! But hold out for a lot of money, you're worth it!
I think Aaron what's his name is probably the director. But it makes me wonder why things didn't work out with Marco Puig, since Kris was pretty definite about him being the director.
Maybe he doesn't direct saccharine abominations. I think that's it, don't you?
By the way, if you also cut hair as well as direct music videos, could you do something about this? (Jesse Cottam) I'm sure you're good at multi-tasking.
JesseBlueEyes | TweetPhoto
Oh, and I guess I have seen that #10 ranking for LLWD. Yeah, that's impressive for a song that's still on the radio. And has only been out for ten months.
By the way, I thought it was starting to be played a lot up there in Canada. What happened? Did it do anything?
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CindyVela (2/2) I can say that I’m not shooting Monday as I’ve been rescheduled for a later shoot date. Sorry, wish I could say more
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I feel kind of bad for her! She already said she can't reveal stuff about the video. The fans can drive people crazy, I think.
This video is getting dragged out, huh? I wonder why they needed her for the shoot yesterday, but Monday, they don't? Do you think they needed to change the concept?
I think Aaron what's his name is probably the director. But it makes me wonder why things didn't work out with Marco Puig, since Kris was pretty definite about him being the director.
Maybe he doesn't direct saccharine abominations. I think that's it, don't you?
By the way, if you also cut hair as well as direct music videos, could you do something about this? (Jesse Cottam) I'm sure you're good at multi-tasking.
JesseBlueEyes | TweetPhoto
Oh, and I guess I have seen that #10 ranking for LLWD. Yeah, that's impressive for a song that's still on the radio. And has only been out for ten months.
By the way, I thought it was starting to be played a lot up there in Canada. What happened? Did it do anything?
CindyVela (1/2) To the KA fans, thank you so much for the follow and for all the questions! Please know that I am not able to say much about the shoot
9 minutes ago via TweetDeck
CindyVela (2/2) I can say that I’m not shooting Monday as I’ve been rescheduled for a later shoot date. Sorry, wish I could say more
6 minutes ago via TweetDeck
I feel kind of bad for her! She already said she can't reveal stuff about the video. The fans can drive people crazy, I think.
This video is getting dragged out, huh? I wonder why they needed her for the shoot yesterday, but Monday, they don't? Do you think they needed to change the concept?
Oh Jesse Blue eyes. That is some bad looking hair.
Wonder why Orianthi cancelled ? Maybe she figured she could get more money elsewhere and bigger billing. The tour won't really miss her though, it's truly the Adam show at this point. I'm glad that Allison is touring with Adam though..hopefully they'll send her along when he goes overseas.
and maybe someday Kris can cross the border into Canada (fingers crossed) We're so far away afterall. Maye give an interview to a Canadian station...????
CHUM pretty much pulled LLWD. It was #17 or something on their chart and then disappeared never to be seen or heard from again. Hedley though we get years of songs on CHUM all in the same day.
Did you guys see the photos from the video -- not exactly a lot of props to carry around. A bed, a trunk and a piano and lots of sand.
Wonder why Orianthi cancelled ? Maybe she figured she could get more money elsewhere and bigger billing. The tour won't really miss her though, it's truly the Adam show at this point. I'm glad that Allison is touring with Adam though..hopefully they'll send her along when he goes overseas.
and maybe someday Kris can cross the border into Canada (fingers crossed) We're so far away afterall. Maye give an interview to a Canadian station...????
CHUM pretty much pulled LLWD. It was #17 or something on their chart and then disappeared never to be seen or heard from again. Hedley though we get years of songs on CHUM all in the same day.
Did you guys see the photos from the video -- not exactly a lot of props to carry around. A bed, a trunk and a piano and lots of sand.
Yes, I saw the photos! Just now. They even included the raindrops that ruined the shoot - did you notice? Geez, I hate that jacket/sweater. That should be burned. The location looked awesome.
What? When it was #17? I don't get it. Any theories? Let me ask you something. That song was/is a very big hit here. Is Canadian taste so different from ours, or do you think it has more to do with lack of exposure to the song?
Hm. How do you know the tour won't miss her? Is that based on reviews? I mean, I'm inclined to agree with you, but let's not automatically believe all the hype. I actually think she lent some cred to that tour. I'm not sure why, I guess because she had a hit single. Also, she plays an instrument. If I went to that show I'd look forward to seeing her. Some people commented on the article about her cancelling, to the effect that she was the only one they were looking forward to seeing.
To me, she doesn't belong on that tour, though. I don't think the Glamberts appreciate her talent, and I think she can do better than opening for Adam. Not that it's not a good gig, it's just that she should open for someone that suits her better.
What? When it was #17? I don't get it. Any theories? Let me ask you something. That song was/is a very big hit here. Is Canadian taste so different from ours, or do you think it has more to do with lack of exposure to the song?
Hm. How do you know the tour won't miss her? Is that based on reviews? I mean, I'm inclined to agree with you, but let's not automatically believe all the hype. I actually think she lent some cred to that tour. I'm not sure why, I guess because she had a hit single. Also, she plays an instrument. If I went to that show I'd look forward to seeing her. Some people commented on the article about her cancelling, to the effect that she was the only one they were looking forward to seeing.
To me, she doesn't belong on that tour, though. I don't think the Glamberts appreciate her talent, and I think she can do better than opening for Adam. Not that it's not a good gig, it's just that she should open for someone that suits her better.
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I haven't seen the photos yet, but I just got home... will find them later.
I had to share a story first! In Montréal, every summer, there's a firework competition (stay with me, this is on topic!). Each Saturday, a different country is represented, meaning a firm from that country presents fireworks. It's 30 minutes long and it has to be accompanied by music. Tonight, the U.S. firm was presenting their firework. I went to see it and we had the music playing (it's aired on a specific station on the radio) and what was one of the songs they used for the fireworks? LLWD! I might have "squeed" out loud. Anyway, it was pretty cool to hear it accompany some fireworks!
I had to share a story first! In Montréal, every summer, there's a firework competition (stay with me, this is on topic!). Each Saturday, a different country is represented, meaning a firm from that country presents fireworks. It's 30 minutes long and it has to be accompanied by music. Tonight, the U.S. firm was presenting their firework. I went to see it and we had the music playing (it's aired on a specific station on the radio) and what was one of the songs they used for the fireworks? LLWD! I might have "squeed" out loud. Anyway, it was pretty cool to hear it accompany some fireworks!
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SQUEEE!!! Fireworks LLWD 
that`s awesome.
IMHO ---lack of exposure for sure. There were no interviews in Canada (that I saw aside from the Idol ones) and CTV and CHUM, MUCH, MTV almost deliberately ignored it. (or in my opinion it wasn`t almost.. I think they did ignore it to push Adam and specifically get Adam on Much for the MMVA`s - that`s my theory and I`m sticking to it) You couldn`t watch it on Much`s website and you certainly couldn`t vote for it. I found it on MTV`s site (kinda buried but there) The whole situation was weird.
that`s awesome.IMHO ---lack of exposure for sure. There were no interviews in Canada (that I saw aside from the Idol ones) and CTV and CHUM, MUCH, MTV almost deliberately ignored it. (or in my opinion it wasn`t almost.. I think they did ignore it to push Adam and specifically get Adam on Much for the MMVA`s - that`s my theory and I`m sticking to it) You couldn`t watch it on Much`s website and you certainly couldn`t vote for it. I found it on MTV`s site (kinda buried but there) The whole situation was weird.
That they stopped playing the song when it went to 17 is weirder to me than never having played it.
I think your theory about getting Adam on Much, and for the MMVAs, is right. (Do you think Adam disappointed them by his not-especially-newsworthy performance on the MMVAs? They probably wanted outrageousness. Or theatrical brilliance.)
But you say they ignored Kris to get Adam. Are you saying that maybe they (Much) guaranteed RCA/19 that Adam would not have that competition, from the winner, Kris? In exchange for RCA/19 delievering Adam to them for Much Music and the MMVAs? Because Kris did compete with Adam on VH1, and did take some attention from him, or share attention. And on the radio, as well. I think it's fair to assume that had he had the same expossure in Canada the same thing would have happened.
I sometimes wonder if what people say is true - though I don't want to. That Kris has sometimes been screwed over by his own representation in order that they can build Adam into the superstar they need him to be to sell their brand. By screwed over, I mean, not ignored but actually thrown under the bus for Adam's sake.
Is it common for Much to ignore playing an American artist's video when the video has been on the VH1 countdown for weeks and the song is getting a lot of radio play in the US? Are there a lot of examples of that? Did they ignore The Script, for instance?
If David Archuleta's new single and video gets a lot of attention from MUCH, I'm calling bs.
(By the way, how does one "call bs," anyway? Do you use a phone? Is it like ET phoning home?)
Have you guys noticed this forum doesn't play videos on wide screen? For the w.s. version, go to YouTube. (It's better.)
YouTube - Kris Allen, Can't Stay Away, Bessemer, AL July 17 2010
I think your theory about getting Adam on Much, and for the MMVAs, is right. (Do you think Adam disappointed them by his not-especially-newsworthy performance on the MMVAs? They probably wanted outrageousness. Or theatrical brilliance.)
But you say they ignored Kris to get Adam. Are you saying that maybe they (Much) guaranteed RCA/19 that Adam would not have that competition, from the winner, Kris? In exchange for RCA/19 delievering Adam to them for Much Music and the MMVAs? Because Kris did compete with Adam on VH1, and did take some attention from him, or share attention. And on the radio, as well. I think it's fair to assume that had he had the same expossure in Canada the same thing would have happened.
I sometimes wonder if what people say is true - though I don't want to. That Kris has sometimes been screwed over by his own representation in order that they can build Adam into the superstar they need him to be to sell their brand. By screwed over, I mean, not ignored but actually thrown under the bus for Adam's sake.
Is it common for Much to ignore playing an American artist's video when the video has been on the VH1 countdown for weeks and the song is getting a lot of radio play in the US? Are there a lot of examples of that? Did they ignore The Script, for instance?
If David Archuleta's new single and video gets a lot of attention from MUCH, I'm calling bs.
(By the way, how does one "call bs," anyway? Do you use a phone? Is it like ET phoning home?)
Have you guys noticed this forum doesn't play videos on wide screen? For the w.s. version, go to YouTube. (It's better.)
YouTube - Kris Allen, Can't Stay Away, Bessemer, AL July 17 2010
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They were probably looking for scandalous, but I think they were willing to settle for newsworthy. And Adam did bring the press for sure.
I don't know how overt is was. It may not have been anything that RCA/19 said or did. I just know that when Much starts selling a performer as hard as they did Adam prior to the MMVA's that there is a very good chance that they will be a performer on the show. There was also a visit to MOD from both Adam and Kesha -- and they're both RCA - they basically followed the same press run while here.
OR it may be more the fact that RCA really pushed Adam and Kesha and Jive didn't push as hard.
And I really don't know but I think it might have contributed to it. It's only a theory, but CHUM usually plays Idol stuff a lot. Although they didn't play NoBo or Beautiful Day... they played the HELL out of The Boxer though. Usually they would have at the very least have played LLWD and they didn't even when it was top 10 on pop in the US... which is weird, right?
I don't like to think that -but they've pushed Adam to a degree that they've never pushed an Idol before. It might be just that the push for Kris looks small in comparison because Adam's is so big. I don't know. It's not like they haven't supported Kris. LLWD got a lot of support, and Kris is opening for Keith Urban, Maroon 5 which is huge.
It's not unknown. But no they didn't ignore The Script. Chum played them.. still plays them. The video doesn't really get airplay on Much. Or I haven't seen it, but I think you can play it or vote for it on the website.
LOL - I'll call BS too. I think they'll play David -- he's done shows for them.
Please give me the number to call BS at.
It's actually too complicated. But if there was no Adam, and Kris was still the S8 winner, I wonder how his treatment from TPTB would differ. For instance, I imagine he'd be the one that they would promise would visit MOD in exchange for their playing his video.
Do you ever think there's something wrong somehwere? Like Kris may be shoveling sh*t against the tide? I feel AI wrote him off. They're not interested. I really feel the little extra push he could have had from them last season would have helped boost him a lot. What it is for me is that he's so marketable, such a strong performer, and when people *know* he's playing somwhere (which isn't always the case), they're there. But a lot of the time his publicity seems to be lacking from the source itself, his management.
ETA: The other thing I wanted to say is that when Adam didn't appear to be taking off, here, and his single, FYE, tanked, I think there was a scramble to get him notice in Canada because they needed to make some money off FYE, or Adam did. They made a big video for it and they (or he) had to pay that big cast, the costume rentals, and so forth. And it got almost no play on VH1. I think they felt Canada would be somewhere they could get the video played. Maybe the promise of the visit comes in there.
Speaking of publicity...even a plug for the album.
YouTube - Talking About The Truth Music Video
It's actually too complicated. But if there was no Adam, and Kris was still the S8 winner, I wonder how his treatment from TPTB would differ. For instance, I imagine he'd be the one that they would promise would visit MOD in exchange for their playing his video.
Do you ever think there's something wrong somehwere? Like Kris may be shoveling sh*t against the tide? I feel AI wrote him off. They're not interested. I really feel the little extra push he could have had from them last season would have helped boost him a lot. What it is for me is that he's so marketable, such a strong performer, and when people *know* he's playing somwhere (which isn't always the case), they're there. But a lot of the time his publicity seems to be lacking from the source itself, his management.
ETA: The other thing I wanted to say is that when Adam didn't appear to be taking off, here, and his single, FYE, tanked, I think there was a scramble to get him notice in Canada because they needed to make some money off FYE, or Adam did. They made a big video for it and they (or he) had to pay that big cast, the costume rentals, and so forth. And it got almost no play on VH1. I think they felt Canada would be somewhere they could get the video played. Maybe the promise of the visit comes in there.
Speaking of publicity...even a plug for the album.
YouTube - Talking About The Truth Music Video
Just heard part of the Kiss Countdown. The Truth was #21 on the Top 30.
Yeah, I think it is. I don't know that much about Canada. But an Idol winner whose song is Top 10 (as you said) on Pop in the US, not being played - I mean why? These are things I don't understand. Anyway, it played here! I guess that's one thing I can't complain about.
By the way, the crowd response last night seemed great. And - maybe no opening act is necessary?
Yeah, I think it is. I don't know that much about Canada. But an Idol winner whose song is Top 10 (as you said) on Pop in the US, not being played - I mean why? These are things I don't understand. Anyway, it played here! I guess that's one thing I can't complain about.
By the way, the crowd response last night seemed great. And - maybe no opening act is necessary?
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I like that Kris got a little promo for his video on VH1. ET follows Adam around like a lost sheep it's nice to get a little something something. I'll take what I can get at this point.
Go Boston!!
The crowd seemed wild didn't they? I mean it's a smaller crowd sure... but I so enjoy the energy of being a Kris audience. So good. I like the theme parks, gotta say. The opening gigs are good to spead his name out there, but I love the Kris headliner shows.
Go Boston!!
The crowd seemed wild didn't they? I mean it's a smaller crowd sure... but I so enjoy the energy of being a Kris audience. So good. I like the theme parks, gotta say. The opening gigs are good to spead his name out there, but I love the Kris headliner shows.
A smaller crowd? (Than what?) What size crowd was it, anyway? I never heard. Anyhow, they were vociferous.
Who watches ET, seriously? (Well, you, I guess.
) I didn't know that ET follows Adam around because I never watch it. (It's a good thing I don't!)Is "Go Boston" for the AI show tonight? I almost wish I went. Except I'm not a Siobhan fan. MJ says the crowd is good tonight, huh? :hello1:
girlygirl from MJ's posted a pic of Kris's LLWD video playing on the giant screens at the concert, and wrote that it was the first real confirmation she'd had that they were playing the idols' videos at the concert.
Anyone else think it's weird that she needed "real confirmation" of something every recapper has mentioned since the concerts began? I mean, I just believed the recappers. Wouldn't you? I find her kind of overblown, at times.
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