Canadian Health Care

[SirJosephPorter]

Dalhousie is the only medical school in the Atlantic Provinces. Maritime students all go into one pool, with no allocation for each province. You have the same chance in PEI as you do from NS.

That is why Newfoundland is a well known route for foreign doctors to get into Canada. They need doctors, but don’t have a medical school. Canadian doctors don’t want to go into remote parts of Newfoundland (e.g. Gander, or Labrador). The answer is to recruit foreign doctors. They go to Newfoundland on a temporary license and then pass the necessary exams etc. to get a full license.

 

[TenPenny]

Dalhousie is the only medical school in the Atlantic Provinces. Maritime students all go into one pool, with no allocation for each province. You have the same chance in PEI as you do from NS.

That is why Newfoundland is a well known route for foreign doctors to get into Canada. They need doctors, but don’t have a medical school.

SJP, if you ever expect anyone to take anything you post seriously, please do even the tiniest bit of research before you post something you know NOTHING about.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

SJP, if you ever expect anyone to take anything you post seriously, please do even the tiniest bit of research before you post something you know NOTHING about.

TenPenny, if people take me seriously or not, it is their problem, not mine. And what is the problem with my post? Do they have a medical school in NF? I didn’t think there was, I am writing from memory. But even if there is one, that still doesn’t affect the rest of my post; Newfoundland is a well known route of foreign doctors into Canada. We personally know many foreign doctors who first came to Newfoundland, and later to Ontario.

 

[TenPenny]

TenPenny, if people take me seriously or not, it is their problem, not mine. And what is the problem with my post? Do they have a medical school in NF? I didn’t think there was, I am writing from memory. But even if there is one, that still doesn’t affect the rest of my post; Newfoundland is a well known route of foreign doctors into Canada. We personally know many foreign doctors who first came to Newfoundland, and later to Ontario.

You claim that there is no medical school in Newfoundland, AND THAT IS WHY IT IS A ROUTE FOR FOREIGN DOCTORS.

There IS a medical school there, it is well respected, it has been there for decades, and therefore the rest of your post is utterly garbage. You start out with a lie, and use that as the reason for the rest of your post. And now you claim that the original lie doesn't change anything.

You couldn't reason your way out of a wet sack of seaweed, and every single time, and I do mean every single time, that someone calls you on it, you claim it doesn't matter anyway. Every single time. You make stuff up, you lie, and then blithely pretend that it somehow doesn't change the essential truth of your made up reality.

 

[ironsides]

Hope this helps a little.


To get into a vet school n the U.S.: Completing a Bachelor's Degree is highly recommended though, because the competition to get into a vet school has become more intense. The popularity of veterinary careers has been steadily increasing for years, but the number of U.S. veterinary colleges has stayed pretty much the same since 1983, at fewer than 30 schools.

http://www.degrees.info/online/health-care/becoming_a_veterinarian.html?_ADC_SOURCE=y_datapop



I don't think there would be much of a difference in Canada.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

You claim that there is no medical school in Newfoundland, AND THAT IS WHY IT IS A ROUTE FOR FOREIGN DOCTORS.

You couldn't reason your way out of a wet sack of seaweed, and every single time, and I do mean every single time, that someone calls you on it, you claim it doesn't matter anyway. Every single time. You make stuff up, you lie, and then blithely pretend that it somehow doesn't change the essential truth of your made up reality.

Calm down, TenPenny. Blood pressure is not good for you.

I do mean every single time, that someone calls you on it, you claim it doesn't matter anyway.

Sure it doesn’t matter here. My observation that Newfoundland is a well known route for foreign doctors (and it is) was not based upon there being no medical school, but upon the fact that there is a terrible shortage of doctors there, especially in the remote areas. Canadian trained doctors just don’t want to go there. That is what I have been told by foreign doctors who adopted that route and who are now settled in Ontario.

Look at hospitals, health centres etc. in remote parts of NF and you will see many foreign doctors there (so I have been told by foreign doctors from NF that I know, and I have no reason to doubt them).

As to someone calling me, I am rarely called on anything; my posts are usually based upon facts.

Again, relax, take a deep breath and calm down. We are just having some fun here; there is no need to take it so seriously.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Hope this helps a little.


To get into a vet school n the U.S.: Completing a Bachelor's Degree is highly recommended though, because the competition to get into a vet school has become more intense. The popularity of veterinary careers has been steadily increasing for years, but the number of U.S. veterinary colleges has stayed pretty much the same since 1983, at fewer than 30 schools.

http://www.degrees.info/online/health-care/becoming_a_veterinarian.html?_ADC_SOURCE=y_datapop



I don't think there would be much of a difference in Canada.

Ironsides, I assume vets don’t have to worry about as many malpractice lawsuits as doctors do.

 

[TenPenny]

Sure it doesn’t matter here. My observation...was not based upon there being no medical school...

Well, you are the one who said that it was.
If you could ever write any one thing, in any thread, without reversing yourself and claiming that you didn't say what you did, you'd sound like you had a clue.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I never said that, TenPenny. I never said that my observation was based upon there being no medical school in NF. I pointed that out as a contributing factor, but the main reason is the shortage of doctors.

 

[TenPenny]

I know that English isn't your strong suit, so I'll just quote YOU here for your reference. Perhaps you can find a teacher to help explain it to you. Just to be clear, the part is RED is something you quoted from another poster. Please don't let the colour distract you.

Dalhousie is the only medical school in the Atlantic Provinces. Maritime students all go into one pool, with no allocation for each province. You have the same chance in PEI as you do from NS.

That is why Newfoundland is a well known route for foreign doctors to get into Canada. They need doctors, but don’t have a medical school.

 

[Tonington]

SJ, I was the one who mistakenly said there wasn't another medical school in Atlantic Canada, turns out there are three, and soon to be four. I was wrong. After TenPenny asked me if I was sure, I informed myself as to my error of omission.

But you used that error of mine as THE reason why foreign Doctors go to Newfoundland, because of the lack of a Medical school. That is a non-sequitur. The conclusion does not follow from that premise.

Admit you were wrong. Everything since then has been you moving goal posts. If you had read the whole thread before replying to my error as a matter of fact, you wouldn't be in this situation.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Just let it go, Tonington. You were wrong; I compounded the error, what is the difference? Some people take these forums way too seriously.

And no, I did not use that as a primary, reason. I know firsthand (from the doctors I know) that NF is used by foreign doctors as a conduit to come to Canada.

 

[Tonington]

The difference is I corrected my error, and I admit my error. You continue to dodge. If you didn't take this so seriously, you would see that this:

Dalhousie is the only medical school in the Atlantic Provinces. Maritime students all go into one pool, with no allocation for each province. You have the same chance in PEI as you do from NS.

That is why Newfoundland is a well known route for foreign doctors to get into Canada.

(emphasis mine)

is in fact using an error as justification. Whether or not your conclusion is correct, the route you used to get there was not.

 

[TenPenny]

The difference is I corrected my error, and I admit my error. You continue to dodge. If you didn't take this so seriously, you would see that this:

(emphasis mine)

is in fact using an error as justification. Whether or not your conclusion is correct, the route you used to get there was not.

Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, because I do not know what was in his heart, and therefore, he cannot be wrong.

 

[TenPenny]

I know firsthand (from the doctors I know) that NF is used by foreign doctors as a conduit to come to Canada.

I personally know some foreign trained specialists who came to Ontario first, before relocating to NB. Some are neighbors of mine, some are friends.

I now understand they did that because Ontario has no medical schools.

 

[ironsides]

SJP: There are quite a few hospitals in the U.S. operated by charities, St Judes Childrens hospital is probably one of the best childrens cancer hospitals in the world. Shriners operate 22, but are losing donations.

http://www.pediatrics.uthscsa.edu/dept_photos/factsheet.pdf



Are you aware of the following?
Hospitals in border cities, including Detroit, are forging lucrative arrangements with Canadian health agencies to provide care not widely available across the border.





Agreements between Detroit hospitals and the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care for heart, imaging tests, bariatric and other services provide access to some services not immediately available in the province, said ministry spokesman David Jensen.
Canadians visit U.S. to get health care | Detroit Free Press | Freep.com

 

[AnnaG]

The mean wage for a family physician in Canada is $115,000. I posted that earlier either here or in another thread about healthcare.
BTW, guys, good luck getting an admittance of error.

 

[AnnaG]

I know that English isn't your strong suit, so I'll just quote YOU here for your reference. Perhaps you can find a teacher to help explain it to you. Just to be clear, the part is RED is something you quoted from another poster. Please don't let the colour distract you.

Quote: Dalhousie is the only medical school in the Atlantic Provinces. Maritime students all go into one pool, with no allocation for each province. You have the same chance in PEI as you do from NS.

That is why Newfoundland is a well known route for foreign doctors to get into Canada. They need doctors, but don’t have a medical school.

lmao

 

[AnnaG]

Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, because I do not know what was in his heart, and therefore, he cannot be wrong.

You're wrong. He can't be a hypocrite. He can still be wrong. Remember?

 

[ironsides]

The mean wage for a family physician in Canada is $115,000. I posted that earlier either here or in another thread about healthcare.
BTW, guys, good luck getting an admittance of error.

Not really that much different in the U.S. $135,000.