Canadian dollar falls after Liberals projected to win election

Corduroy

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How does that compare to what it was when Harper started? What it is at when Jr. leaves office will be the time you can judge how he did 'overall'.

Why should the value of the dollar judge how a government does overall? Is that the point of government?
 

PoliticalNick

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Justine has promised more red ink. Of course a-s-s-wipes like yourself ignore the fact that Steve guided our economy through a global financial meltdown almost completely unscathed at the cost of some red ink. He had it balanced before he left so Justine has a clean slate to start with. Last leader who promised red ink was Bob Rae in Ontario in the early 90s. You can see how well that worked out for him.

The budget was balanced this year with smoke & mirrors as an election ploy. Stop a few billion in transfer payments, rob the EI fund of $1.8 billion, reduce some departmental budgets to near zero for a year and voila....a balanced budget. Never mind expenditure still outsizes revenue by $5.5 billion the bottom line is balanced. If he had been elected Harper would have had a minimum of $10-12 billion in deficit next year, probably higher. The only way to really balance the budget is to permanently reduce expenditure below your revenue and NONE of the 3 main parties are willing to do that.

How does that compare to what it was when Harper started? What it is at when Jr. leaves office will be the time you can judge how he did 'overall'.

The national debt will be higher when JT is done. It will also be higher when his successor is done and the guy after that. The international bankers have implemented a system where we can never reduce the debt. It is a perpetual death spiral pushing each successive generation further into debt to pay off the generation before. The sooner everybody wakes up to that fact the sooner we can kick out or jail the bankers, take back control of our currency and economy and start to reduce the debt.
 

PoliticalNick

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Why should the value of the dollar judge how a government does overall? Is that the point of government?

Actually yes. They have a constitutional mandate to control the creation of currency which gives some control over the value of the dollar. Unfortunately they gave away that control to the international private banks who manipulate most global currencies to their advantage while f*cking over the citizens.

They do NOT however have any constitutional authority to manipulate the economy or really be involved with business other than to regulate and tax.
 

personal touch

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JT is playing off his daddy's name.. good for business my ****. But look at the that blue in Alberta, and even BC.

The investors have spoken and the pullout of investment in Canada has started.. one word "Greece" and the writing is on the wall, just look at Ontario under Liberal leadership.

FreeAlberta.com: For An Independent Alberta

You see the common guy doesn't get Globalization, if business doesn't like who's running the country they just take their toys and money and move to another country for 4 years... look at Alberta, it not just about OIL, it's about who running the show, and the loss of thousands of jobs to Canadians.

In todays volatile world if you don't have a second passport, you're screwed, a tax free place to live and put your money.

Where is the cheapest place to buy citizenship? - BBC News
the sky is falling?
 

personal touch

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Actually yes. They have a constitutional mandate to control the creation of currency which gives some control over the value of the dollar. Unfortunately they gave away that control to the international private banks who manipulate most global currencies to their advantage while f*cking over the citizens.

They do NOT however have any constitutional authority to manipulate the economy or really be involved with business other than to regulate and tax.
i guess a concept of controlling the dollar through different means and methods of implementation of attractivness to international investment is not in job descriptions,but it is in the best interest for job descriptions of the country of Canada as a whole.Unfortunately the cons figured everything was to give away for asking,even consitutional mandate.good bye old thinking!Hello aggressive hope!
i woke up today,feeling as excited as i did for Liberal policies as i did for them 10 years ago.I felt youthful of heart,I pulled out my books on the trudeau's,I feel good.I love the constitution, and more then the Constitution I love to examine process's which come along with the Constitution,checking out what influences these process's as i go. Liberal ideals is where i saw myself in the political spectrum,but unfortunatey the belief in these ideals diminished with the process i was delivered through the Liberal party,or lack of process,i am not sure,they were useless at the time to recognize constituinal interference.i was very disappointed,and sad, i could not find a Liberal just like me.I also encountered a few other things with Liberal ideals,that presented itself as corrupt.I was naive then
back to business
yes i agree i would not want constitutional authority over business,but our government has an obligation and authority to make canadians safe and ensure prejudices and political bias don't interfere into this business, there is a public obligation to regulatory oversight,i know some would find hard for some to believe.
There are process's for regulatory oversight,or should be, or better yet in my case I "hoped so".
One would think "regulatory oversight process's and the design which should serve multi stakeholders in a meaniful manner, in a win win situation, but in reality these regulatory process's,have become a "pile of entitlement of business" agendas, interfering with regulatory process, and providing a diminished,powereless,unsafe,manipulating,process to Canadians,which is designed with no capacity for advancements or resolve.
for anyone to believe anything different is deluded,old and out of touch with modern business,and i would like to also throw in a person who is a little on the psycopathic end of greed.
Canada deserves a better brand.

business has interfered with constitutional obligation and application,by no means has governement interfered with business and constitutional application,for moving along to the future of Canada and business,this old talk must go.
what has happened,usually access to the regulatory process is usually only accessed by limited stakeholders,this is by design,usually these process's are marginalized by intentions, this resulting in limited public oversight.unfortunatley these designer process's are intentional and purposeful,and can be easily traced to orgin of concepts of poltical influenceand belief systems,politcal policies effect these designs.what may be good in 1980 is not always good for Canadians in 2015,I am so happy today!Willful blindness,call it what you want,but this willfull blindness has hurt Canada as a whole,it has also hurt the conservative value system.
lots of turncoats amongst us.
our prime Minister is moving ahead,i feel hope today,but one thing i caution my good Prime Minister as he moves along with the advancements of oil and gas activity and advanced enviromental policies,there must be some acknowledgement of wrong doing to all stakeholders of bad process's within history,there is a history to acknowledge.I seek recognition and will be watching for it from my Prime Minister on past wrongs of enviromental oversight/regulatory practice particulary in Alberta,I seek recognition from my PM that people lost their lives and were divided in communites for defending their land and what they believed to be defense of their property.

I want advancements of oil and gas like many Canadians but I am fully aware of the past wrongs of administrative process's,and truely feel we as Canadians cannot move along for advanceements of policies until the dark history of enviromental polices is open for discussion or if anything recognition.
I like this feeling of hope today,I realize it may not stick around,but for now i am happy to run with it.
 

B00Mer

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the sky is falling?

If you're living in Alberta, that is hail, sent by evil Liberal Gods.

 

AnnaG

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Probably because one was not looking where it was going and tripped over the power cord.
 

PoliticalNick

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i guess a concept of controlling the dollar through different means and methods of implementation of attractivness to international investment is not in job descriptions,but it is in the best interest for job descriptions of the country of Canada as a whole.Unfortunately the cons figured everything was to give away for asking,even consitutional mandate.good bye old thinking!Hello aggressive hope!
i woke up today,feeling as excited as i did for Liberal policies as i did for them 10 years ago.I felt youthful of heart,I pulled out my books on the trudeau's,I feel good.I love the constitution, and more then the Constitution I love to examine process's which come along with the Constitution,checking out what influences these process's as i go. Liberal ideals is where i saw myself in the political spectrum,but unfortunatey the belief in these ideals diminished with the process i was delivered through the Liberal party,or lack of process,i am not sure,they were useless at the time to recognize constituinal interference.i was very disappointed,and sad, i could not find a Liberal just like me.I also encountered a few other things with Liberal ideals,that presented itself as corrupt.I was naive then
back to business
yes i agree i would not want constitutional authority over business,but our government has an obligation and authority to make canadians safe and ensure prejudices and political bias don't interfere into this business, there is a public obligation to regulatory oversight,i know some would find hard for some to believe.
There are process's for regulatory oversight,or should be, or better yet in my case I "hoped so".
One would think "regulatory oversight process's and the design which should serve multi stakeholders in a meaniful manner, in a win win situation, but in reality these regulatory process's,have become a "pile of entitlement of business" agendas, interfering with regulatory process, and providing a diminished,powereless,unsafe,manipulating,process to Canadians,which is designed with no capacity for advancements or resolve.
for anyone to believe anything different is deluded,old and out of touch with modern business,and i would like to also throw in a person who is a little on the psycopathic end of greed.
Canada deserves a better brand.

business has interfered with constitutional obligation and application,by no means has governement interfered with business and constitutional application,for moving along to the future of Canada and business,this old talk must go.
what has happened,usually access to the regulatory process is usually only accessed by limited stakeholders,this is by design,usually these process's are marginalized by intentions, this resulting in limited public oversight.unfortunatley these designer process's are intentional and purposeful,and can be easily traced to orgin of concepts of poltical influenceand belief systems,politcal policies effect these designs.what may be good in 1980 is not always good for Canadians in 2015,I am so happy today!Willful blindness,call it what you want,but this willfull blindness has hurt Canada as a whole,it has also hurt the conservative value system.
lots of turncoats amongst us.
our prime Minister is moving ahead,i feel hope today,but one thing i caution my good Prime Minister as he moves along with the advancements of oil and gas activity and advanced enviromental policies,there must be some acknowledgement of wrong doing to all stakeholders of bad process's within history,there is a history to acknowledge.I seek recognition and will be watching for it from my Prime Minister on past wrongs of enviromental oversight/regulatory practice particulary in Alberta,I seek recognition from my PM that people lost their lives and were divided in communites for defending their land and what they believed to be defense of their property.

I want advancements of oil and gas like many Canadians but I am fully aware of the past wrongs of administrative process's,and truely feel we as Canadians cannot move along for advanceements of policies until the dark history of enviromental polices is open for discussion or if anything recognition.
I like this feeling of hope today,I realize it may not stick around,but for now i am happy to run with it.
Maybe you thought you were saying something relative to my post but I am unable to decipher what it may be from this. Forum etiquette says you shouldn't post when you are drunk beyond coherence.
 

personal touch

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Maybe you thought you were saying something relative to my post but I am unable to decipher what it may be from this. Forum etiquette says you shouldn't post when you are drunk beyond coherence.
my apoligies Politicalnick,just using the administer process to elevate my own agendas.are you aware some important decisons regarding keystone are going to be made in the near future?i just decided to write on how i see the decison of not mentioning history of activity of regulatory oversightis is wrong, and new opportunites are at canada's doorstep.
my apologies for taking up your space,but i think it is important for our new prime minister to be mindful to this history when participating in decisons for Canadians.
forum etiquette is all matter of opinion,andyour opinion is wrong,so be it!
 

Cannuck

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You f uc tards seem to have no problem overlooking 9 years of red ink from steve, and he started with money in the pot. Arseholes
Its also funny that the Canadian dollar has been dropping significantly since last summer. That wasn't Harper's fault though.
You would think that every once in while, the light bulb would come on with one of the Harperites. You gotta shake your head at just how collectively stupid they are.