CBC News - Canada - Former Manitoba AG on secret internment list
Are these lists compatible with democracy?
Are these lists compatible with democracy?
Canadian Democracy and Secret Internment Lists
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That program may have ended, but the bureaucracy that manned it is still in place and you can bet that they are still doing the same type of subversive work on individuals and groups they deem enemies of the state. You saw them flex their muscle at the G8 and G20 gatherings. We are still far from our original democratic roots and the anti-communist zeal is still applied to those who are viewed as a threat to the ruling elite.
We are supposed to be surprised by this? It was happening long before that.
There has been lists of enemies of the state since at least the end of WWII.
Even before that, there were lists of those deemed subversive during the
Great Depression. The riots in Regina decades ago probably stimulated the
RCMP to draw up their Communist enemy list. Our democracy has always
be a frail document, that papers over the real agenda of the state.
The state is there to preserve itself and the financial institutions.
Democracy is supposed to put a human face on the feudal system that still
exists. The people are supposed to be the masters of government yet the
elected officials of government have power over the police, the military and
all of the institutions of government. The citizens after each election for the
most part surrender their personal power to the elected officials.
Therefore I am not surprised the military, and police controlled by the
politicians in power would make a list of those they deemed could be a
threat to their power. I am always amused by people who seem so surprised.
No one even thought abut the War Measures Act, it was brought into play to
put down the FLQ but it remained in force for well over a decade without any
real harm, except for the fact that it sets a precedent for future actions.
There has been lists of enemies of the state since at least the end of WWII.
Even before that, there were lists of those deemed subversive during the
Great Depression. The riots in Regina decades ago probably stimulated the
RCMP to draw up their Communist enemy list. Our democracy has always
be a frail document, that papers over the real agenda of the state.
The state is there to preserve itself and the financial institutions.
Democracy is supposed to put a human face on the feudal system that still
exists. The people are supposed to be the masters of government yet the
elected officials of government have power over the police, the military and
all of the institutions of government. The citizens after each election for the
most part surrender their personal power to the elected officials.
Therefore I am not surprised the military, and police controlled by the
politicians in power would make a list of those they deemed could be a
threat to their power. I am always amused by people who seem so surprised.
No one even thought abut the War Measures Act, it was brought into play to
put down the FLQ but it remained in force for well over a decade without any
real harm, except for the fact that it sets a precedent for future actions.
As far as I know, the War Measures Act was not repealed. It is still active and can be implemented at a moments notice.
Cliffy I may stand corrected but I thought it was repealed just before Paul Martin
came in as Prime Minister, don't quote me on that, but they were talking about
it back then. You are right though, the powers that be, leave these things around
a long time. I think they would have used the basis of that power during the G20
if it was still in force. Then again maybe that is how they were able to circumvent
the civil laws and arrest so many the way they did. Some were guilty as hell but
others, were wrongfully rounded up as well.
Government has the ability to apply the statement
If you are losing the game change the rules.
came in as Prime Minister, don't quote me on that, but they were talking about
it back then. You are right though, the powers that be, leave these things around
a long time. I think they would have used the basis of that power during the G20
if it was still in force. Then again maybe that is how they were able to circumvent
the civil laws and arrest so many the way they did. Some were guilty as hell but
others, were wrongfully rounded up as well.
Government has the ability to apply the statement
If you are losing the game change the rules.
Considering that the police used their own provocateurs to incite violence without repercussions, I thnk that whether or not the war measures act is still active or not, we still live in a police state. With right wing nut jobs in power, we are even less a democracy.
Government does not represent the people who elect them, they represent the people who finance their campaigns.
Government does not represent the people who elect them, they represent the people who finance their campaigns.
I lived on a property just two miles from the internment camp at Lemon Creek, in the Slocan valley. There were three internment camp cabins moved to that property after the war. Two were rough cut 2X4 frames and one pole. The outside walls consisted of rough cut 1X4 with spaces between them from shrinkage as they were cut green and left to dry on the walls. There was no insulation in the walls and no wood or anything else on the inside. The Japanese were moved into those cabins in late fall, early winter. The people would find their blankets frozen to the walls in the morning. Little or no heat was provided. There was similar camp at New Denver and Sandon. The Sandon camp was abandoned in the spring as there was so much snow that food supplies were very difficult to deliver. Sandon sits high in the mountains, in a narrow valley with very high snow falls. In 1956 the town was washed away in a flash flood. I don't think any of us can imagine that kind of deprivation.
Don't register any of them. You sign away all your rights to own one. The registration only allows you to have one in the house until such time that they deem it necessary to take it away. By registering them, you are admitting that you are a criminal that needs monitoring.
It is now called the Emergency Powers Act or Emergency Act and is considerably restricted in its powers from what existed before. Here is an article dealing with emergency powers in various nations. Canada can be found down the list.
State of emergency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And exactly how would not registering firearms in any way help against trained professionals other than to get you killed?
Guerrilla armies are almost impossible to defeat. If invaded, our military would be over run in days if not hours. The country can only be retaken by citizens taking to the woods. We need a well armed citizenry to protect us from internal and external threats to our freedom. The gun registry is the forerunner of a totalitarian state.