Canada Votes 2025

Serryah

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Carney will call an Election likely if not the day of, within a week of the return to Parliament, IMO.

I DON'T see him holding shit back.

Normally I don't go with polling since it's a craps shoot; however this is interesting.

Polling:


If you look at the breakdown of 'intention by region', you've the Liberals ahead in even Alberta (though admittedly only via one of their sources of data, not both).

This second Ekos link is to show how close Ekos polling is to the reality when you look at the last election





Regardless of how things go, this election is gonna be spicy, I think.
 

petros

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Carney will call an Election likely if not the day of, within a week of the return to Parliament, IMO.

I DON'T see him holding shit back.

Normally I don't go with polling since it's a craps shoot; however this is interesting.

Polling:


If you look at the breakdown of 'intention by region', you've the Liberals ahead in even Alberta (though admittedly only via one of their sources of data, not both).

This second Ekos link is to show how close Ekos polling is to the reality when you look at the last election





Regardless of how things go, this election is gonna be spicy, I think.
Nope. Not after people are educated about Carney over the campaign.
 
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Twin_Moose

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Carney will call an Election likely if not the day of, within a week of the return to Parliament, IMO.

I DON'T see him holding shit back.

Normally I don't go with polling since it's a craps shoot; however this is interesting.

Polling:


If you look at the breakdown of 'intention by region', you've the Liberals ahead in even Alberta (though admittedly only via one of their sources of data, not both).

This second Ekos link is to show how close Ekos polling is to the reality when you look at the last election





Regardless of how things go, this election is gonna be spicy, I think.
It'll have the same results as the Kamala campaign
 
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Ron in Regina

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Carney will call an Election likely if not the day of, within a week of the return to Parliament, IMO
I can’t see him allowing Parliament to return (unless he’s got Jagmeet in his pocket, but even then I doubt it).
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I DON'T see him holding shit back.
He’s holding back on answers to unscripted questions…
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If you look at the breakdown of 'intention by region', you've the Liberals ahead in even Alberta (though admittedly only via one of their sources of data, not both).
That….is highly questionable. Quebec? Yeah…provinces in your neighbourhood? I can see that too. Ontario (specifically the GTA I mean) is fickle so…maybe…like the GVA in B.C. but Alberta? I’m finding that a little hard to swallow.
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With a little zoom in here:
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Let’s look at the polling aggregate that’ll come out in a handful of hours later on today…
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Ron in Regina

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Carney has committed to call an election before November .
Oct 28 is before November
21/24 of Carney’s “new” cabinet are recycled Trudeau choices, & & thus the same people involved in evoking the Emergencies Act the last time in Feb 2022.

Harpers “fixed election dates” legislation says there has to be an election before Oct 21st 2025….& Trudeau/Singh proposed legislation wanted to push that back until Oct 28th 2025 for outgoing Liberal/NDP pension reasons…& our constitution says there has to be an election at least every five years so by Oct 21st 2026.

If…& big speculatory “if” here…Carney declares a national emergency (Trump or Trudeau in flavour) over this trade war, in theory, there might not be an election until October of 2026.

Personally, I believe it’s gonna happen really fast…before Carney has to answer questions that aren’t scripted softballs, or before he has to answer for Trudeau’s last almost decade of scandals and Carney’s role in those (as an “outsider” of course).
 

Ron in Regina

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Well, the http://338canada.com/ numbers are are earlier than normal today.
If you look at the breakdown of 'intention by region', you've the Liberals ahead in even Alberta (though admittedly only via one of their sources of data, not both).
I’m finding that a little hard to swallow.
Here’s Alberta’s projections specifically:
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BUT…
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That’s a HUGE BUT also…
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What a mess…& it’s still with Parliament prorogued, Trump being Trump, Trudeau FINALLY resigning about 48-ish hours ago, and Carney yet to have to answer an unscripted question.
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Either the Conservatives get a clear majority, or we go further down the Trump hole with a left of center coalition of…???…& that’s where we are right now.
 
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Ron in Regina

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If…& big speculatory “if” here…Carney declares a national emergency (Trump or Trudeau in flavour) over this trade war, in theory, there might not be an election until October of 2026.
(YouTube & “Carney government is on ‘war-time footing,’ says industry minister”)

The Liberal government’s decision to invoke the Emergencies Act in response to the 2022 Freedom Convoy protests was unreasonable, unjustified and violated the Charter, the Federal Court has ruled.

In a lengthy ruling published Tuesday, Federal Court Justice Richard Mosley found that though the Freedom Convoy protests in early 2022 were causing harm to Canada’s economy, trade and commerce, they did not rise to the level of a threat to national security as defined by the law.

Mosley sided with civil liberties groups who argued the Liberal government went beyond its powers, violated the Charter and was not justified in its historic invocation of the Emergencies Act in February 2022.

“I have concluded that the decision to issue the Proclamation (of the Emergencies Act) does not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness – justification, transparency and intelligibility – and was not justified,” Mosley wrote.

On the same day, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government did not agree with Mosley’s decision and promised to appeal it.

“The public safety of Canadians was under threat, our national security, which includes our national economic security, was under threat,” she said. “I was convinced at the time. It was the right thing to do. It was the necessary thing to do.”

Maybe the Liberals will get it right the next time?
 
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(YouTube & “Carney government is on ‘war-time footing,’ says industry minister”)

The Liberal government’s decision to invoke the Emergencies Act in response to the 2022 Freedom Convoy protests was unreasonable, unjustified and violated the Charter, the Federal Court has ruled.

In a lengthy ruling published Tuesday, Federal Court Justice Richard Mosley found that though the Freedom Convoy protests in early 2022 were causing harm to Canada’s economy, trade and commerce, they did not rise to the level of a threat to national security as defined by the law.

Mosley sided with civil liberties groups who argued the Liberal government went beyond its powers, violated the Charter and was not justified in its historic invocation of the Emergencies Act in February 2022.

“I have concluded that the decision to issue the Proclamation (of the Emergencies Act) does not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness – justification, transparency and intelligibility – and was not justified,” Mosley wrote.

On the same day, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the government did not agree with Mosley’s decision and promised to appeal it.

“The public safety of Canadians was under threat, our national security, which includes our national economic security, was under threat,” she said. “I was convinced at the time. It was the right thing to do. It was the necessary thing to do.”

Maybe the Liberals will get it right the next time?
EBY has already got a provincial version of the Emergency Powers Act happening in BC, basically letting him make any deals and rules he feels like with no parliamentary oversight until some time in 2026.
 
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EBY has already got a provincial version of the Emergency Powers Act happening in BC, basically letting him make any deals and rules he feels like with no parliamentary oversight until some time in 2026.
We are the government and we make the rules . Don’t forget that peasant .
 
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