Canada to admit nearly 1 million immigrants over next 3 years

mentalfloss

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Let's suppose that any person could work in Canada visa-free for as long as he wants as long as he meets the following standards:

1. He must earn an officially-mandated minimum hour wage and a minimum weekly wage.

2. He has no criminal record.

Now what would be the economic argument against that?


Dunno.

I just like immigrants because they're generally smarter than long term Canadians.
 

White_Unifier

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Dunno.

I just like immigrants because they're generally smarter than long term Canadians.

I wouldn't see any economic harm in that. It would eliminate much red tape for businesses that want to access international skilled labour. The minimum wage would eliminate any argument that they're not paying enough in taxes. The fact that they could simply work in Canada visa-free but would not necessarily be guaranteed Canadian permanent residency or citizenship eliminates the concern that they'll apply for social assistance since they would not qualify for it anyway.

Also, the minimum wage would prevent unskilled foreign workers from stealing the jobs of unskilled Canadian workers yet still allow worldwide competition in Canada between skilled workers. This would reduce their costs and so benefit the poor who otherwise could not afford their products and services.

I really don't see how this would hurt anyone other than nationalists' sense of national identity.
 

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Let's suppose that any person could work in Canada visa-free for as long as he wants as long as he meets the following standards:

1. He must earn an officially-mandated minimum hourly wage and a minimum weekly wage.

2. He has no criminal record.

Now what would be the economic argument against that?

Would you like a million fundamentalist Muslims from Pakistan living in your city? How do you think that would impact the local culture? But never mind. Just economics? Let's look at the economics from the perspective of those living here now. You're going to be flooded with people from the third world who will be desperate for any kind of job under any kind of situation. That is going to drive down wages across the board. It will also lead to tremendous overcrowding in our cities, massive traffic jams everywhere and an overall drop in the quality of living. Huge expatriate communities will be established (even bigger than now) and people will work here providing services for their own. These are jobs which will not be open to you unless you speak Urdu or Arabic or Mandarin or something. Plus, presumably these people will get to vote, which means they get to change all the rules on you.

Wow this thread exploded.

You guys are really triggered by immigration.

First, we're taxpayers. If you paid taxes you would understand.
Second, since we're not progressives, we don't hate Canada. We don't want it destroyed and replaced by some huge mishmash of third world people. The idea that a third of the population and climbing would be foreign born, a big chunk of them from cultures which are diametrically opposed to our own values, does not please most of us.

Dunno.

I just like immigrants because they're generally smarter than long term Canadians.

Then you, probably. But that's a pretty low bar.
 
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Vbeacher

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I really don't see how this would hurt anyone other than nationalists' sense of national identity.

And is it so terrible to have a sense of national identity? Everyone else in the world does. How come it's so horrible if we do?

I pay taxes.

I also said most, which clearly includes you (not me).

You hate Canada. I get that. A lot of progressives hate all western countries, and feel this desperate sense of guilt every time they see their white skin. The thing none of them ever consider is that all the stuff they so violently favour pretty much only exists and has widespread support in white, western countries. And they want to bring in masses of people from countries who loath everything progressives stand for.
 

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I have a national identity, but I don't feel a need to impose it on anyone.

Also, I tend towards capitalism for the most part with some exceptions. If everyone started moving to Canada, wages would go down and costs would go up until Canada were not so attractive anymore. The same applies between cities by the way. For example, if you work at a home office and can work from anywhere in Canada, why would live in Toronto unless that's the only place where you can work?

The same would apply on a world scale. Anyone who could produce something abroad and then export it to Canada would probably prefer to stay home. So the flood would not be as bad as you think as long as we do not give them social assistance. I was talking about allowing people to work in Canada visa-free, not giving them permanent residency. That too could make moving to Canada somewhat unattractive.

The larger population would feed construction, increase population density, and so allow more efficiency through economies of scale. The market would adapt.

As for languages, how are those any different from any other qualification? we need other languages to better trade with the rest of the world anyway, no?
 

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And is it so terrible to have a sense of national identity? Everyone else in the world does. How come it's so horrible if we do?



You hate Canada. I get that. A lot of progressives hate all western countries, and feel this desperate sense of guilt every time they see their white skin. The thing none of them ever consider is that all the stuff they so violently favour pretty much only exists and has widespread support in white, western countries. And they want to bring in masses of people from countries who loath everything progressives stand for.

I don't hate a mass of land.

That's just dumb.

And immigrants can't be white?

You're really embarrassing yourself here.
 
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White_Unifier

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No, Mohammed followers, i.e. goat fkkers.

If your neighbour sexually abuses goats, you should report him to the police; that's a criminal offence.

On a side note, why are you watching your neighbour riding goats?
 

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If we absolutely MUST bring in immigrants, bring in 100 doctors and nurses and see how that works out before bringing more!
 

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And they want to bring in masses of people from countries who loath everything progressives stand for.

Progressives don't realize that their mushy, moonbat, ego driven ideals aren't reciprocal and never will be.

But they look like Jesus so you should be happy.

What does Jesus look like?

If we absolutely MUST bring in immigrants, bring in 100 doctors and nurses and see how that works out before bringing more!
We have Pinoy RNs coming out the yin yang.